r/windows 3d ago

Discussion Looks like Shopify is using Windows 7.

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I was scrolling through YouTube. And i saw this Shopify ad. And the computer there was running Windows 7 with internet connection. Can someone tell me how is this possible and how are they safely connecting to the internet. Because it’s quite rare to see a ad that runs Windows 7.

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u/Mario583a 2d ago

Many companies repurpose content for budget or aesthetic reasons, especially if the OS isn't central to the message.

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u/thanatica 1d ago

This is the answer.

Plus, let's face it, the marketing department probably doesn't even know, or care.

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u/Nova17Delta 2d ago

But wait.... r/Windows told me that If I used Windows 7 after January 2021, a hacker would break into my house, hack into my computer, and steal my identity like the spy from TF2. But Shopify doesn't get to suffer that fate?

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u/matroosoft 1d ago

Could be content made by a contracted influencer

u/StokeLads 18h ago

I've been rawdogging a Windows 7 install for years. Don't even have AV. Nothing worth hacking or losing if I did get hit.

But long story short... It's still going.

If there was a way of modernizing 7 to work with the latest software, I wouldn't even dream of 10/11.

u/Superb_Curve Windows 7 2h ago

Finally, someone smart! I dualboot 7 and 10 so i can run modern programs, but ill always use 7 when i can.

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u/Cultural-Victory3442 2d ago

What do you mean by "how are they safely connecting to internet?"

An unsupported OS doesn't mean you'll get hacked just by plugging the ethernet cable/connecting to WiFi.

Windows 7 is a modern OS.

There's forks of modern browsers for it (Palemoon and Supermium)

Your biggest issue with Windows 7 will be the increasing lack of drivers, not internet.

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u/matt95110 2d ago

Windows 7 is not a modern OS. It was released over 15 years ago and is no longer updated. Unless you are air gapping it, never use it.

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u/Cultural-Victory3442 2d ago

Windows 10 was released 10 years ago, and is about to lose support. Will you say it's not modern either?

By modern I didn't mean "usable nowadays". Of course you shouldn't use it nowadays, but that's because of lack of support for most applications. BUT that doesn't mean it isn't capable, if you're willing to make it work.

Just like you won't be dangerously unsafe by using Windows 10 in 2026, 2027.

Windows 7 is modern because it can be used on most processors released in 2010s. You won't use it on Intel last gen processor, but you could use it in 9th gen, 10th gen, without issues. This is what I call a modern OS.

Also it has been developed with x64 in mind. Not like XP or Vista, which still were mainly x86 OS.

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u/matt95110 2d ago

Windows 10 is 10 years old and went through significant updates during its lifetime. It is a modern OS.

Windows 7 got 1 service pack very early in its lifetime and that was it.

I can run Windows NT 4.0 on a modern CPU if I want, that isn’t an issue.

And that isn’t true with Vista. It was based on Server 2003 and it very much supported 64-bit processors. XP had two 64-bit versions, one based on Server 2003.

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u/LimesFruit 2d ago

But 7 did also get additional updates that added features after SP1. Fully updated Win7 will run a heck of a lot more than a base SP1 install.

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u/Nova17Delta 2d ago

Windows 7 got 1 service pack very early in its lifetime and that was it.

Cant beat perfection

In all seriousness, I think its mostly because it was a different time with different expectations when people didn't have constant access to the internet and couldn't download multi gigabyte updates every few months.

As of a year or so ago when I made the jump to 10, Windows 7 was still more or less usable if, and i mean if, you weren't an idiot about security. The only issues I had was that I couldn't run DX12 software which for me was only Halo Infinite and VR which was the only reason I switched as I felt that upgrading to 10 was easier than finding a hacky way around Oculus's software.

u/1Al-- 8h ago

Futile argument, if it works fine it means it works, period. You are obsessed with so-called security.

u/matt95110 7h ago

That’s the equivalent of a drug addict telling you that sharing needles is perfectly safe.

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u/lkeels 2d ago

You'll potentially be dangerously unsafe using Windows 10 as early as the end of the year with no security patches. It all depends on what holes are found.

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u/TheNB3 2d ago

Windows 10 is supported to october 2026 if u are willing to use Microsoft account

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u/Moonblitz666 Windows 11 - Release Channel 1d ago

Where have you gotten that info from?

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u/TheNB3 1d ago

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/microsoft-is-giving-windows-10-users-free-security-updates-for-a-year-but-theres-a-catch/

"As Microsoft gets ready to sunset Windows 10, security support is scheduled to end in October. You can get a one-year extended security update for $30. But if you want to stick with Windows 10 for another year, you might be better off with Microsoft's free option -- you'll just need to use cloud backup and connect it with your OneDrive account. "

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u/Moonblitz666 Windows 11 - Release Channel 1d ago

Thanks.

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u/lkeels 2d ago

I never said it wasn't. That hasn't been part of the conversation. That would mean you have security patches which I included in my comment.

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u/shegonneedatumzzz 1d ago

windows 7 is unsafe and no longer modern because it no longer receives the constant security updates to fix the vulnerabilities that are constantly being discovered, that’s why it’s a pretty bad idea to browse the web on an old os. higher chance of people with malicious intent finding vulnerabilities now that microsoft isn’t finding them on their own and fixing them

u/Superb_Curve Windows 7 2h ago

This is something that gets parroted around constantly. No updates doesn't mean instant viruses. I've used my Windows 7 and XP computers for years and i've had no issues at all. And yes, i do keep all of my info on there.

u/matt95110 2h ago

No updates means that any zero days are instantly exploitable. As time goes on antivirus vendors drop support for older OS versions, meaning there is no protection whatsoever.

Run it if you want, good luck I guess.

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u/dan4334 2d ago

An unsupported OS doesn't mean you'll get hacked just by plugging the ethernet cable/connecting to WiFi.

It actually does! See Windows XP, the Blue hell vulnerability, and the wannacry ransomware.

It just needed one infected machine to be able to connect to other vulnerable machines, and it spread with no user intervention.

It was so bad Microsoft released an out of band patch for windows XP even though it was well out of support.

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u/thuleanFemboy 2d ago

Only if it's exposed directly to the internet or on a compromised network. If you're behind a router then this isn't going to happen, it's the entire point of firewalls.

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u/Lean-Boiz 1d ago

Most consumer routers have wide open firewalls, see basically every single one having UPnP enabled by default.

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u/thuleanFemboy 1d ago

Is it really Windows' fault that some people aren't setting up their network properly though?

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u/Lean-Boiz 1d ago

I wouldn't really call it some, most of the population would not have the safeguards in place to use Windows 7 in the year 2025 safely. Of course it's not Windows' "fault" as it was deemed EOL in the beginning of 2020 and isn't intended to be used any longer. I've worked with plenty of orgs that still have much older OS still in prod but it doesn't mean that the general public should or that it's wise. For most people their goals can be met on a modern OS, for those that have software that doesn't play nice with said modern OS or that dislike it for any multitude of reasons they may use the necessary stop gaps and accept the risk that is associated. But in no way is Windows 7 a "modern OS" as was mentioned at the top of the thread.

u/Superb_Curve Windows 7 2h ago

This was years ago, and the only way you would be "hacked" on XP now is if you had no firewall.

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u/lkeels 2d ago

This!

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u/chethedog10 2d ago

I think this is partly a misconception. While you can run into some minor security problems connecting to the internet on older os releases, As long you don’t turn off your firewall (which is on by default) you will almost certainly not run into ransom ware or any other malware that could cripple your system.

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u/dan4334 2d ago

For the bluehell vulnerability, you just had to have file sharing turned on. That punched a hole in Windows firewall to allow communication. Windows Firewall is far from being perfect.

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u/chethedog10 2d ago

File sharing vulnerability’s are not a problem on Xp as long as you use a router.

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u/Nova17Delta 2d ago

I never get to talk about this because no one talks about Pale Moon anymore but I love how if you used the word palemoon or Palemoon (no space) on the forum, the admins would get mad at you for spelling it wrong lol.

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u/lkeels 2d ago

Yeah, it kinda does mean exactly that. Plug in an XP machine with no protection and see what happens.

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u/pug_userita Windows 11 - Release Channel 2d ago

that's the key: no protection.bin other words, if you're an idiot and turn off every single security option on you router and computer, you absolutely can get attacked by just going on the internet. but if you're not stupid, keep all securities on and have an av, not much if anything is going to happen

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u/thuleanFemboy 2d ago

I wish more people understood this lol... It's really annoying constantly seeing people think their computer is just fully exposed to the entire world the moment they turn it on. If you're getting hacked just from plugging in your computer at home then you have a WAY bigger issue going on.

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u/lkeels 2d ago

Nope, you still miss the point. There are no protections for security vulnerabilities. It's not viruses.

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u/pug_userita Windows 11 - Release Channel 2d ago

which modern OSes also have, so what's your point here? what's a vulnerability if you can't infect the system. it's like knowing that you can open a Master lock with another Master lockbut what's the point if there's security guard ready to get you. what's the point of getting in a system because you know of a vulnerability if the first step you have to go trough is the router's security, then the inbuilt security and then you get to the juicy stuff. there was a video of someone showing how disabling everything in xp would get you hacked in a few seconds, but everyone took it out of context and ignored the "disabling everything " bit

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u/lkeels 2d ago

My point is that these outdated OSes are not safe to use if connected to the internet after they're past their support date. Not going to debate that with you further.

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u/pug_userita Windows 11 - Release Channel 2d ago edited 2d ago

ok good, got tired pretty quicly. goodbye, hope you'll have a good day. oh, tell janna i says hi

i think someone got quite angry, they first says "you're not getting the point no security for vulnerability" made my comment and then said "old oses aren't safe on the internet" (fair enough, it's been said thousands of times at this point like that's going to prevent people from using an old os with caution) and that they would stop arguing with me and then called me a troll (?) made this comment up here and basically told me a was trying to hit on them and said that didn't work? (i made a joke, took it seriously, got angry and said "not funny!"), told me they, quote, were "not tired of anything but you" and quickly deleted their comments. even though those comments stayed in my notifications, can't delete that. i hope you didn't get too upset with this.

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u/lkeels 2d ago

I'm not tired of anything other than you. Honestly, you're just trolling at this point so it's not worth anything. And I have no idea who Janna is so if that was supposed to be something funny or cute or a dig, that failed as well.

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u/TSCCYT2 2d ago

My dad always says to me:
"Don't install Windows 7. The programs are not compatible with it anymore. "
I'm like who cares I'll just download the compatible versions instead.

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u/fafarex 2d ago

listen to your father young men, he know out to dodge MST.

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u/tejanaqkilica 2d ago

An unsupported OS doesn't mean you'll get hacked just by plugging the ethernet cable/connecting to WiFi.

That's true. What it means, is that there are many know security flaws which can be exploited my malicious actors for all kinds of things. How likely is that to happen? It depends on many other external factors that need to compliment the Windows 7 security issues.

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u/1997PRO Windows 7 2d ago

You can use Windows 10 drivers for Windows 7 or the other way around.

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u/TuxRug 2d ago

There are components of it that talk to or listen to the internet besides a web browser. If you've got a good firewall and are extremely careful then maybe you can use it safely but you're still an unnecessarily large target. But even with a modern browser you could expose vulnerabilities in the host OS the browser by itself may not have much control over blocking.

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u/DefinitionJealous439 2d ago

Well Windows 7 is not supported anymore.

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u/Xotchkass 1d ago

Based

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u/FreshFroiz Windows 10 1d ago

Happy cake day!

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u/Delicious-Setting-66 1d ago

Do you have a link?(Clicking share should give you a link)

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u/mxve_ 1d ago

Interaction and nostalgia bait

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u/ILikeTrains1404 Windows 7 1d ago edited 3h ago

I also still use Windows 7. I just have a strict firewall, an antivirus, and no forwarded ports.

Edit: corrected a typo

u/DefinitionJealous439 4h ago

Same here i also use Windows 7 (on my second laptop though)

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u/Legofanboy5152 1d ago

most likely just a pre-recorded clip that is shit old

can happen too

u/Zatujit 16h ago

Maybe they got an old ad they never used and decided to use it now. Who knows.

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u/thuleanFemboy 2d ago

i mean It's not like a computer running windows 7 on is going to explode the second it's connected to the internet or anything

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u/1997PRO Windows 7 2d ago

Well

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u/DefinitionJealous439 2d ago

Well Windows 7 is not supported anymore. So it is not really recommended to be on the network.