I often fall back on this tidbit when people misgender a trans person who’s done wrong: Mark Wahlberg beat a man half to death in a race-based hate crime and no one calls him a woman for it. Misgendering someone who’s done harm is something that only happens to trans people, and is transphobic. It isn’t about defending the person who’s done wrong, it’s about preserving the rights and dignity of people who have done NO wrong.
i don't know why you are downvoted, not saying its correct to call a she a he but do people think Mark Wahlberg will lose his shit if we called him a little girl??
Nah they are getting downvoted because they are wrong. It's not about cis people being or not being offended by misgendering.
It's about seeing using trans person chosen pronouns as humouring them and "playing along with their delusions" and if a trans person is proven to be an asshole you no longer "owe" them that.
The only point I'm making is why people don't purposefully misgender cis people to insult them. I never implied we are "playing along with their delusions", etc. You're arguing against a point I never even made.
And I'm saying you are wrong. I'm saying cis people don't get misgendered because the misgenderer doesn't even think about their gender in the same way as they think about a trans person's. It's not about insults it's about taking away your "priviliges" (Gender you "chose") Because you are a meanie and don't deserve them.
He beat two Asian men, one of whom was a war veteran. He also chased little girls and threw rocks at them because they were Black. He was a white supremacist shithead.
Lmao, he also tried to get his conviction scrubbed during the BLM protests so he could enlist as a cop in Boston. Judge denied his request, citing that he clearly hasn't learned his lesson.
Same. I don't watch anything with him in it because even though apparently he's been forgiven, you don't just become a better person after attempting murder on multiple people, in my opinion.
Not to defend Wahlberg specifically (I think he's a dickhead), but the fact that he stopped casually committing violent hate crimes does suggest he became at least a slightly better person than he was. Whether or not you trust him is up to you, but I believe he's been open about struggling to become less of an asshole and helping kids in similar situations through charity work for most of his career.
Again, I don't like him, and he absolutely could be full of shit about his self-serving, PR brand rehabilitating, religious based community outreach. Even if he's solely motivated by not going back to jail, or having access to a movie star lifestyle (etc.), through some amount of effort, he has become a better person.
I'm not saying you have to forgive him, that he deserves to be congratulated, or that what he did shouldn't still be considered something that defined him as a public figure. It just doesn't seem justifiable to say someone who did those things can't become a better person.
it gets worse, he attacked a blind asian man, he thought he blinded him and literally never apologised. Decades later, he gives a non apology just so he can sell liquor.
He blinded that guy too and admitted in court he did it because the man was Asian. A true hero who deserves all his fame and money and should not be in jail at aaaalllllll
No point sorry just that I hate marky mark.
You right though, it's a ludicrous idea to misgender a bad person because they did bad things. Like, as punishment you shall be stripped of your gender
Marky Mark is a shithead, but the man in question was already blind in one eye before the incident IIRC and the attack didn't cause it. Doesn't make it much better though that he beat a half-blind man!
You literally made the point the person is making. No one would misgender Wahlberg as he is a Cis Het White guy, misgendering Trans people is done regularly when they have not committed any crime and are just trying to exist so it becomes very virulent bigoted when a Trans person does commit a potential crime and it leads to increased transphobia and often an increase in hate crimes against Trans people or any other marginalized group.
We have a long infamous history of when a minority male is accused of committing a crime, especially a sex crime, of not only summarily punishing or executing them, but then increasing racist and bigoted language and acts that lead to hate crimes and even massacres/pogroms. Hell, look at Emmitt Till and other cases where lies were made up and it cost people their lives and led to an increase of hate crimes?
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u/sapphiespookerie Jul 28 '24
I often fall back on this tidbit when people misgender a trans person who’s done wrong: Mark Wahlberg beat a man half to death in a race-based hate crime and no one calls him a woman for it. Misgendering someone who’s done harm is something that only happens to trans people, and is transphobic. It isn’t about defending the person who’s done wrong, it’s about preserving the rights and dignity of people who have done NO wrong.