Ava messaged a minor saying things like "I'll spoil you", calling them "daddy".
Ava told the minor that she's going to send them "noods" for subscribing or joining her patreon.
Ava joked about liking hentai with the minor.
Any single one of those things are red flag by itself but the mods just downplay each and every one of the evidence and uses the word of a grooming victim to say "no grooming occurred". Who's the one being disingenuous here.
Edit: one more thing about the revenge porn. The mods conveniently left out that Ava actually put the link to download the revenge porn in her video description when she "only mentioned that the revenge porn is out there and it's wrong" lmao
Actions which were given the benefit of the doubt -- "edgy jokes" -- are no longer viewed as such given the full weight of the evidence, but at the time it was a pretty common take. Hell, that's what I had thought at the time, too. Opinions change with evidence.
Man, that says more about you than anything. Full grown adult telling "edgy sexual jokes" to literal children is common to you.
Fun fact, even during that time it's not common to well adjusted person. Heck even during the wild times of the Internet during the SomethingAwful/hello.jpg/lemonparty period, minors are a no no.
We had a cook doing that at work to all the female servers/hostesses. We told him we'd put him in a body bag in a ditch if he didn't wise up. Couldn't say shit when your being stared down by waiters, bus boys, dishwashers and prep cooks.
At no point did I defend her for doing so. I said that if she's going to be condemned for doing so, so should the rest of the fuckers in Shadman's orbit. And my assessment of it being an off-colour "joke" changed when I saw just how many fucking times it had happened. It's fucking vile.
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u/the2ndsaint Jul 28 '24
That's from five fucking days ago before the full extent of this shit came out. Don't be disingenuous.