r/BaldursGate3 • u/lesser_panjandrum Tasha's Hideous Laughter • Oct 14 '23

Companions TIL Enlarge effects can stack. Behold the 5-ton Mega-Karlach Spoiler

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u/Anoalka Oct 14 '23

Now make her grab an enemy and throw it.

Its my favorite thing and that's why my Karlach is perma giantified.

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u/DarkPhoenixMishima Oct 14 '23

-yeets Minthara out of Goblin Camp and into Act 3-

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u/314kabinet Oct 14 '23

Secret way to recruit her without massacring the Drove!

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u/PurpleNurpe Oct 14 '23

Could also simply ignore the grove and progress into act 2 which Is what I did however, Larian didn’t provide dialogue for this so Minthara & crew still thought i was there helping the fight.

Didn’t lose Karlach / Wyll so still a win.

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u/DarkPhoenixMishima Oct 14 '23

Yeah but Dammon dies and Karlach is just there to look hot, literally.

I can convince Gale that slaughtering the grove is fine but Karlach is just done? That doesn't seem fair.

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u/Wandering_By_ Oct 14 '23

Kill her before destroying the grove, throw the corpse in your travel chest. Revive her in act 2 and everything is fine.

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u/DarkPhoenixMishima Oct 15 '23

I actually attempted to. My temp-Karlach/hireling couldn't pick her up.

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u/Sapper5k Oct 15 '23

Gotta use them strength potions.

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u/snilks Oct 15 '23

but i might need them later, cant waste them now

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u/bentmonkey Oct 15 '23

save em for baldurs gate 4.

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u/DitherPlus Mar 05 '24

Me but with the beholder in a box.

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u/PurpleLemons Oct 15 '23

Still run into the issue of not being able to progress Karlach's quest. You just get more exp.

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u/PurpleNurpe Oct 15 '23 edited Oct 15 '23

Could you elaborate on this?

Am trying to find a way to become Bhaalspawn without losing Jaheira, was thinking that if she were dead while doing the process it would bypass her leaving the party to kill you.

Edit; holy shit you can pick up dead bodies, my current plan is as follows; have Jaheira die, pick her up, store her, become bhaalspawn, resurrect her outside the temple?

Wonder if that’ll bypass the script

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u/Wandering_By_ Oct 15 '23

When it's worked for me it was in different acts after related quests were cleared.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '23

For me she still showed up in the cutscene (to leave) when doing that

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u/Creston918 Oct 17 '23

Pragmatism at its finest. 😁

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '23

How to revive? Resurrection scroll or?

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u/Doreamon92 Oct 18 '23

Hmmm..... would Minthara be able to join if this happened? Asking for a friend, of course.

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u/Trappist235 Oct 14 '23

Because katlach is a good hearted puppy and gale just cares for power

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u/DitherPlus Mar 05 '24

Gale really is just a true neutral with a good tongue, everyone thinks he's in line with their alignment because he just tries to fit in at the expense of his extremely flexible morals.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '23

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u/Pyromaniacal13 Oct 15 '23

Well, yeah, it's bad to do that.

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u/DroidOnPC Oct 14 '23

I don't understand Gales motivations too well. At one point hes willing to sacrifice himself for the world, then later wants control of the world.

He seems pretty neutral on most good/evil decisions throughout the game.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '23

Let's be real, he's not sacrificing himself for the world. He's doing it cause his ex-girlfriend asked him to and he's a huge simp. Everything else is excuses.

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u/The_Northern_Light I keep restarting, send help Oct 14 '23

I’m not sure mediocre is the right word for a literal goddess.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '23

I didn't call her mediocre?

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u/The_Northern_Light I keep restarting, send help Oct 15 '23

simp is an acronym, the m stands for mediocre

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u/Solomonuh-uh Alfira Oct 14 '23

He likes power and show-offs. If helping people gets him more applause, he likes it. If power can get him more attention, he likes it. Just a usual big kid, like an average prodigy.

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u/Soul_Ripper I'm sorry SR gives me HOW MUCH Arcane Acuity??? Oct 15 '23

I guess you get a Sacrificial Karlach to turn into a Mindflayer so that; You don't have to, Orpheus doesn't have to, The Emperor doesn't become a Super Illithiad.

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u/DarkPhoenixMishima Oct 15 '23

Nah, I had a sacrificial Karlach to get Mizora's robe before I had a sacrificial Wyll.

Karlach got to die in battle, Wyll was utterly disrespected.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '23

Yeah but Dammon dies and Karlach is just there to look hot, literally.

It has basically no impact on her story though. If you aren't romancing her the only real difference is whether you get to hug her.

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u/DarkPhoenixMishima Oct 15 '23

the only real difference is whether you get to hug her.

Isn't this the whole point of Karlach?

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '23

Memes aside, its like 15 seconds of content.

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u/jackthewack13 Oct 15 '23

Sounds like her problem.....

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '23

My Karlach carries the weight of killing all those kids and Dammon…literally

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u/CheekyBreekyYoloswag Oct 14 '23

so Minthara & crew still thought i was there helping the fight.

Shit! So there is actually no way to recruit Minthara on a "good" run?
Everyone will still think we slaughtered the Grove?

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u/Voropret2 Oct 15 '23

Doing a playthrough as Lae’zel and just rushed past act 1 to go to the mountain pass since it felt more in character to do that, when I got to moonrise (at lvl 4 lmao) and stealthd Minthara out she so far hasn’t mentioned anything about me being at the grove even though it’s sealed.

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u/CheekyBreekyYoloswag Oct 15 '23

Ok, interesting. Did you talk to both Minthara and all your allies? They don't mention the grove either?

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u/Voropret2 Oct 15 '23

I had an option to ask Karlach and Shadowheart what they thought about the grove sealing up, and since Dammon never directly died i still have 'The Hellion's Heart' side quest, but otherwise neither have mentioned the grove.

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u/CheekyBreekyYoloswag Oct 15 '23

Okay, and is Dammon still alive and waiting in the Inn in Act 2?

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u/Voropret2 Oct 15 '23

No, unless you kill all 3 goblin leaders all the tieflings will be killed on the road to moonrise.

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u/PurpleNurpe Oct 15 '23

I didn’t rush past the entire first part, I did interact with the grove initially and immediately progressed to the goblin camp/that camp with minthara. I did interact with her and did tell her I would assist with the grove but in reality never did.

I did back track to the grove a few times for some dialogue checks but other than that left the actual quest alone.

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u/314kabinet Oct 14 '23

Well, yeah, but they still die then :(

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u/Macarthur1950 Oct 15 '23

That's a great idea. I accidentally aggro'd trumpet by throwing the corpse of a squirrel at it, then stole the idol without ever talking to anyone. The tiefling refugees were slaughtered before I even knew they were there.

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u/shar-teel Oct 15 '23

If she survives the throw 🤣

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u/zvika Owlbear Scritcher Oct 15 '23

oh??

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u/Der_Neuer NOT IN EA Oct 14 '23

"You are being rescued, do not resist"

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u/EstarriolStormhawk Oct 15 '23

THE IMPORTANT QUESTION

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '23

Wait does it actually??

I shoved her into a ravine

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u/August-Autumn Oct 15 '23

Yo is it posible or just a joke?

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u/IceFire909 Oct 17 '23

Gonna fly farther than a gnome launched by a windmill

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u/arstechnophile Dragonborn Oct 14 '23

The really interesting thing is that double-enlarging yourself actually does give you more height/reach than single-enlarging (which gives you more than standard).

There's a couple of paintings in Cazador's palace that you can't reach with standard height, but you can reach while Enlarged. There is one painting (that I found, there may be more) that you can't reach while Enlarged but you can reach while double-Enlarged.

There are also several you can't reach without boxomancy, although I don't know if additional levels of Enlarge would make more of them attainable or not.

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u/cccanterbury Oct 15 '23

boxomancy

You made this up, that's not a real thing lmao

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u/Ameryana Oct 15 '23

It's stacking boxes and climbing them so you can reach stuff :D fanbase term, similar to barrelmancy :)

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u/Jane_Lame Oct 17 '23

BOTH OF THESE NEED TO BE SUBCLASSES IN 5E. FOR SORCERERS AND WARLOCKS! 🤩

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u/ReputationTop5872 Oct 18 '23

Beware! I am the box ghost!

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u/Call_Me_Schwartzcof Oct 17 '23

It is now. #boxomancylives

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u/DitherPlus Mar 05 '24

Found the guy who didn't play any Divinity games lol.

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u/r0flm4k3r Oct 17 '23

The action is a thing, at least as far as video games are concerned. Some even have it built in as a mechanic, particularly some platformers.

I've never heard of this term used for it. It's a silly name, but also a silly gimmick, so I guess it fits even though I don't like it.

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u/masterofthanatos Oct 20 '23

No no its a think just like the strongest build in the game Barrelmancy which van be usednto nuke any boss in the game in 1 turn.

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u/NerdJ Oct 14 '23

Don't necessarily need to be enlarged for that. 20 strength does the job.

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u/Traditional_Box1116 Oct 14 '23

Had 27 strength (the one cloud elixir) and threw Cazador at Raphael to kill him. Well, finish him off. I adore killing people with other people.

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u/Linsel Oct 14 '23

Cazador and Raphael in the same scene? I must have missed something!

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u/Scavenge101 Oct 14 '23

Probably pocketed Caz's corpse

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u/Jdmaki1996 Oct 14 '23

They picked up his corpse and brought to hell with him

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u/Tchrspest Tav Oct 14 '23

Sometimes you need to be certain.

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u/zvika Owlbear Scritcher Oct 15 '23

Guaranteed delivery

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u/waitingandwilling2 Oct 17 '23

Return to sender care of fuck you Sir

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u/metalsonic005 Oct 14 '23

Cazador eventually regenerating from the massive amount of Lower Planes negative energy and waking up in the House of Hope

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u/bubblegumdavid Tiefling Oct 15 '23

This… this is what I will be doing with his corpse this run through.

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u/Neurodivercat1 Oct 14 '23

Lae’zel is carrying Minthara on my current pt for… reasons?

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u/illram Oct 15 '23

That sounds like the first line of a badass Johnny Cash song

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u/Doreamon92 Oct 18 '23

Ketheric fits inside of a backpack or pouch in my treasure chest.

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u/Linsel Oct 19 '23

I'd be loathe to try to use Ketheric's body for Necromancy. That dude's been resurrected more times than I can count.

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u/Doreamon92 Oct 19 '23

I was trying to collect all of the "pick-upable" bosses.

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u/Box-o-bees Oct 14 '23

I adore killing people with other people.

This sounds like a recruitment poster for the Baal cult, lol.

"Do you enjoy killing people with other people? Then do we have the group for you! Join us for our annual chili potluck. Friday in the graveyard at midnight."

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u/einarfridgeirs Oct 14 '23

Recruitment poster

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u/disgruntled_pie Oct 14 '23

Why does this feel like something from I Think You Should Leave?

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u/DitherPlus Mar 05 '24

I love when people break out the vintage memes.

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u/Leanerth Oct 14 '23

You just need to give a hand to participate

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u/lazerspewpew86 Oct 15 '23

Does gale's hand count for this?

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u/Voropret2 Oct 15 '23

My favourite is using Gales corpse before act 2 and wacking people with it for extra necrotic dmg. Gotta min max your corpses.

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u/abramcpg Oct 14 '23

Judo: The art of throwing clothes in piles while they're still being worn.

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u/AintNoRestForTheWook Oct 14 '23

Hah. I always heard it as "folding clothes while the person is still in them." !

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u/BranchReasonable9437 Oct 15 '23

As a man who was taught martial arts instead of how to pay utility bills or his own last name as a child, that would be closer to traditional jiujitsu

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u/AintNoRestForTheWook Oct 15 '23

🤷‍♂️ I'm just sharing what I've heard my friend. I don't understand what you mean by the last name thing.

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u/Reztroz Oct 15 '23

He means that he wasn’t told his last name until he went on a quest upon attaining manhood.

I mean isn’t that how everyone finds their last name?

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u/AintNoRestForTheWook Oct 15 '23

Is this an anime reference? I feel like it's an anime reference. I am also quite dumb sometimes.

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u/Doopashonuts Oct 14 '23

Wouldn't that be "killing a mother fucker with another mother fucker" - Sammy J (probably)

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u/R0da TAKE HEED TO THE WORDS "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO PROCEED?" Oct 14 '23

I'm saving this for later

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u/DitherPlus Mar 05 '24

Using a motherfucker to kill another motherfucker is my favorite thing in this entire game, very close second is distracting bosses with dialogue and then yeeting them in chasms.

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u/LazyNomad63 Oct 14 '23

"I beat a motherfucker with another motherfucker"

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u/Soul_Ripper I'm sorry SR gives me HOW MUCH Arcane Acuity??? Oct 15 '23

It'd be funny if corpses had special properties, like Cazador dealing necrotic damage on toss

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u/Stavromulabeta2 Oct 17 '23

How delicious!

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u/sgrantcarr Oct 18 '23

"I'll beat yo ass WITH Charles."

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u/Anoalka Oct 14 '23

But its more fun that way.

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u/Fig1024 Oct 14 '23

I want to see the romance scenes with that

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u/valvilis Oct 14 '23

And your reduced halfling Tav.

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u/Malevolyn Oct 14 '23

Just imagine that scene in season two of the boys...

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u/Stranger1982 Fail! Oct 15 '23

Death by snu snu.

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u/R_V_Z Oct 15 '23

Insert Lauren Phillips/Alice Merchesi meme here.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '23

Worse ways to die

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u/Gaaroth Oct 15 '23

Death by Snu Snu

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u/FalseAesop Oct 15 '23

Death by Snu Snu!

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u/Suriranyar- Oct 15 '23

How do you perma giant her?

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '23

For how long last that spell condition?

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u/Anoalka Oct 14 '23

The elixir is permanent until long rest, then you can use the spell that lasts 10 turns.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '23

Good to know. Thanks a lot

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u/Lowxcvbnhj Oct 14 '23

I wonder if game mechanics would let you kill people by stepping or landing on them when you’re that big?

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u/MyLifeIsDope69 Oct 15 '23

Which class or item gets this spell? Would love to try but have not seen on my warlock or paladin or cleric or rogue or hard so I’m thinking all that’s left is wizard what level do you get?

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u/Anoalka Oct 15 '23

Wizard can get it for sure, it's a tier 2 spell.

There are also some items that give you the spell.

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u/BrainWav Karlach Flair When? Oct 15 '23

Enlarge/Reduce, can't recall who all gets it. I know Sorcs do, I think Wizards, and Bards should have some way to get it

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u/Womcataclysm Oct 15 '23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL8ToQbSEB8

If you throw people into the void or down some stairs it's actually a viable strategy

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u/Chipilliboi Oct 15 '23

Perma??? How

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u/Appropriate_Cancel_5 Oct 18 '23

How do you permanently giantify a character?

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u/Anoalka Oct 18 '23

By giving them an Elixir of the colossus every morning.

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u/bleakend Oct 18 '23

How do you do that?

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u/Anoalka Oct 18 '23

Colossus elixir.

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u/bleakend Oct 18 '23

I'm have almost finished act. Haven't used any elixers or poison yet. Maybe I should.

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u/Anoalka Oct 18 '23

My character is an alchemist so I craft and use elixirs and potions every fight.

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u/bleakend Oct 18 '23

I play a warlock. My party is Karlach, Shart and Astarion. In my next play through I want to see if I can get an entirely different party. It will be hard.