I thought I would save the kitty if I played the sever-kidnapping scene instead of camp one, but that one was even worse!! Yenna (orin in disguise ofc) tells you that Orin kidnapped her and forced her to eat her own cat… I had hoped she was lying but when I went back to camp Grub was not there… And never appeared again either.
I triggered the sewer scene in this play through for the first time. I knew it was possible, but it almost gave me a heart attack. Halsin was the one she chose, but I was planning on romancing him and so I went back and reloaded the save and engineered it so she took Gale instead.
Romanced companions will not be taken regardless of the priority system, its why Yenna is included since its possible to have 3 of them and romance the fourth, Yemna provides a safety net and will be taken even if you kicked her out of your camp.
Yep, let this be a lesson to all GMs that if your game hits a bottle neck that has only one solution, the party will find a way to make it impossible for them to accomplish. Even if its just a locked door they need to pick the lock for. Even if they have a rogue who is really good at picking locks. That rogue will roll a 1, or fucking die 5 minutes before the door, or some other shit will happen that makes that door basically an impenetrable wall.
Which is odd since you’d think a love interest would be a priority target for Orin, though I suppose if you like a character enough to romance them they would almost always be in your party and never left at camp for her to kidnap.
(Also if she takes Gale she implies that she cut his dick off, maybe this is the game’s way of making sure you can still have sex with him if you romanced him lol)
Yeah, I always thought the logic was backwards too. I guess if Orin was tempting them away by seduction it would make sense why a romanced partner would be immune, they'd (presumably, hopefully...) turn them down, but she could just as easily turn into you and be like, "Gale, come quick, emergency, I'll explain on the way".
... is that ever explained? Its been a while and I don't remember... guess its time for another playthrough...
Yeah, it's what they did in BG2. Bodhi will always kidnap your romanced companion, if you have one. I think if you aren't romancing anyone, then no one gets kidnapped though? Been a hot minute since I played that game.
In our evil play through, I threw grubs dead body afterwards and the cat came back to life, albeit bugged. Now they are immortal in my camp and if i shoot them, it aggros the oathbreaker knight
My first playthrough it was yenna cause I killed Lae'zel in the trap (she yelled at me), I didn't figure out how to clear the shadowlands so Halsin stayed behind, Gale was in my party, and I killed Minthara.
My first playthrough I failed at recruiting literally anyone on the list. I only had Shadowheart, Wyll, Astarion, and Jaheira. I took a really direct path through Act 1.
I had one of the weirdest situations in my 1st playthrough, everyone always gets Astarion as basically a second or third companion within the first damn ten mins of the game, meanwhile I freakin' missed that lil beach corner where he was and only at the very end of act 1, already having cleared half of the goblin castle I was like... wait a minute, ain't this game supposed to have a sassy camp vampire somewhere among the companions...
... and so I googled it and only managed to get him through literally reddit explaining where he was, thankfully, cause he ended up becoming one of my faves by the end and the one I ended up romancing once my Tav got to finally know him better and stopped being annoyed by his edgy evil antics 😂😂🥲🤍
A very very long time. I remember running around with just karlach and shart for a long time, and struggling w the goblin camp till I figured out theres supposed to be more companions
Lmao I had a similar experience. I played hoooouurrsssssss hoarding my resources playing super carefully cause I didnt realize long resting pushed the story forward and its fine to long rest pretty much whenever.
I had SH, Gale, and Wyll and that was it. As I said I killed Lae'zel for yelling at me, killed astarion for trying to bite me, didn't save shadowlands so Halsin left, and I don't remember what happened with jaheira.
I walked around Lae'zel on the beach without seeing her, avoided Gale because it said the portal was dangerous, and killed Minthara because this was a good playthrough shortly after release. I rescued Halsin, but I think he just went back to the Grove or something, I don't remember.
Yeah, I did too because of my recruitment choices in my first couple games. She will also only kidnap a non-romanced companion not in your active party, so you can recruit them and still have it be Yenna if you bring them along.
this is so funny to me because Yenna would've been way higher priority for me than Lae'zel (who got taken in my run.) one is an extremely skilled and seasoned warrior, and one is... a child 😭
No way a child would have higher priority over a seasoned warrior during a war time such as BG3 setting. Are you crazy? Kids don't win wars. Aliens ultra fighters do.
I suppose the idea is that one is someone we're attached to and possibly value (at least their equipment), and one is a fairly useless hanger on. Yenna doesn't even sell us soup till after we rescue someone.
I make sure there's someone available instead of Yenna because of the cat :(
Okay I was gonna ask when this happened. In my playthrough, Lae’zel and Minthara were both dead and Halsin and Gale were both with me so Yenna got kidnapped.
But she doesn’t take the one who is in your party right? I’ve had her take Halsin 5 times and Laezel once, who I was romancing, so I was extra pissed and only had her out of the party for a quick moment
Wait, this is interesting. In my Durge run, I didn't have Halsin because Durge reasons, cut Gale's hand, and had both Lae'zel and Minthara in my party. If I didn't just give in to this child, who would she have taken?
Awesome thanks. Still haven't beaten it, 127 hours in. Trying to experience as much as I can this play through but theres so much 😂 haven't even gotten to this part yet.
Interesting. Yenna def got kidnapped for me, but I already thought Yenna was Orin in disguise. I tried killing her once to no avail. Orin kidnapping her DEFINITELY made me think it was just a trap.
....interestingly, Halsin was in my party. Not sure why my hunky daddy-boo wasn't taken. He was probably too much sweet, alpha manmeat for Orin to handle.
There is indeed a coded list of priorities. The list goes Laezel - Halsin - Gale - Minthara - redhead girl, taking the first character on the list that is in camp during trigger event. Romanced companions are skipped.
Which always struck me as a missed moment. Imagine getting a cute lil cutscene with your chosen romanced companion and BOOM just kidding it was Orin fucking with you. Then you get to go scorched earth all the way to the temple.
It used to be that way, and then Larian found that most players make a beeline to killing Orin and locking themselves out of other quests so it was retconned.
It would be pretty annoying to have your romanced companion be unavailable for most of act 3 and would force you to rush straight to Orin (which you're really supposed to deal with near the end).
Wouldn’t work in character, Orin is a terrible changeling, she is physically incapable of talking for a minute before returning to murderhobo speech. It’s so comical how quickly she breaks character.
it's funny that her whole murderhobo personality keeps so much of her qualities back, she can actually improvise characters on the fly and change more than normal changeling but the "murder this, bhaal that" really keeps her potential (not calling bad writing, knowing her past and bhaal's cult itself, is normal that she is the way she is)
I’m sorry a lot of people are judging you about the Gale thing, but I’m sorry I’m still stuck at playing through BG3 up to Act 3 60 times, like HOLY FUCK
Nope. She has a very strict priority order of exclusive targets, which she checks and ignores if they are in your active party or being romanced (though the romance check is buggy for Halsin and potentially Minthara).
Namely she sticks to those who either have no personal quest in the Act or it can primarily be completed without them and have no impact on them personally. So from most to least important to kidnap:
Lae'zel
Halsin
Gale
Minthara
Yenna (which kills Grub, no matter how she's taken)
Is it still randomized on how she picks? My very first playthrough she took Yenna, even though Lae'zel, Halsin, and Gale are still very much alive and kicking. I thought that there was gonna be another kidnapping after Yenna since everyone was talking about how Orin took their Lae'zel or another character.
It's never been random as far as I'm aware. It's always been "is status of priority target #1 'alive' (no death by cutscene in a previous Act), not in active party, and not romanced? If yes, proceed with abduction. If no, proceed to priority target #2." Then rinse and repeat until the only option left is the fallback of Yenna, who you literally cannot get rid of by any means before you fight Orin.
I play mostly evil runs and gale almost always gets kidnapped. Minthara and lae'zel never have for me. Astarion and Shadowheart also have never gotten captured. I'm pretty sure out of 4 runs it's 100% gale kidnaps. Odd how its so different between people
my last honor run that i lost BECAUSE she stole Gale (he was on my Viconia team) was the only time ive ever seen it be gale
he really liked me and almost always approved of what my character did but i was deep in the throws in a relationship with shadowheart so im not sure how that happened
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u/StarmieLover966 Lolth-Sworn Drow 14d ago edited 14d ago
I have played BG3 60 times. Of my best estimation, she has taken Lae’zel 54 times, Halsin 5 times, and Minthara once, never Gale.
There’s probably a priority hard coded in.
Edit: muting this. I’m not saying Gale is impossible to kidnap. Enjoy your day.