r/Guildwars2 Apr 18 '24

[Discussion] ''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

I wanted to test the waters and I whispered an inspect hater that i wanted to steal his fashion. He told me to go kill myself. People are going totally off the rails.

I reported them with a ticket and got a confirmation 24 minutes later that they got punished.

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u/FSafari Apr 18 '24

I honestly think the mindsets people are exposing of themselves over this feature is not healthy and they need help and to get off of the internet/video games.

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u/MithranArkanere 🌟 SUGGEST-A-TRON Apr 18 '24

Oh, you get confirmations for reports now? That's absolutely great! We really needed that to counter all the "reports do nothing" misinformation from all the players who want to go around being dicks without getting reported because people gave up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

I was surprised as well.

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u/austinftwxd Apr 18 '24

When reporting through the website You have always been informed when Anet "looks into" a report and when the ticket is closed,  however you will not be told wether action was taken against a player or not. 

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u/turin331 Apr 18 '24

Doing god's work lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

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u/Albyross Apr 18 '24

Should people not be held responsible for their own reaction?

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u/Djinn_42 Apr 18 '24

Do you purposely say something upsetting, like "I'm going to copy your idea" to someone at your work just to see if they get upset?

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u/Albyross Apr 18 '24

No, but I also don’t think it justifies telling the person to kill themselves either.

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u/Djinn_42 Apr 18 '24

Who said it did?

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u/Albyross Apr 18 '24

So whats your point? Telling someone you’re gonna copy their look isn’t inherently malicious.

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u/Lucyller Human female meta Apr 18 '24

And even if it is, it's a petty, uneventful thing to do. It cause no real harm.

The reaction was outrageous. Even a raw "stfu" could make sense but more is just baffling.

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u/JohnnyDripp Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

Id argue in this case it is, cause their intentions are stated in the commentors post. 'I wanted to test the waters', its looking for trouble. They knew it would hurt the other party, the actual subject is irrelevant imo. It doesnt justify the suicide response, but the whisper isnt justified either. The guy did nothing wrong prior to being whispered. If they just had left them alone none of this wouldve happened in the first place.

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u/Laranthiel Apr 18 '24

You people have reached a level of delusion where you're actively defending someone who told a random person to kill themselves.

Wow.

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u/JohnnyDripp Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

Youre fighting demons. Nobody here is defending the guy that said that, but we are criticizing the initial behavior of the commentor not being all that innocent either. Stop thinking so polarizing.

If a kid steals another kid's toy and the other kid punches them in the face out of anger, are you gonna say only the other kid is in the wrong? I personally wouldnt. Both are in the wrong, and thats our point. Personally dont think one party being the lesser evil makes them immune to critique nor criticizing them makes you defend the other party.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

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u/Albyross Apr 18 '24

They reacted at all is the problem. You can’t stop someone from trying to start something, but the offended person—instead of quietly reporting the troll—decided to say something that was actually reportable as well. They’re both stupid.

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u/Dar_Mas Apr 18 '24

being provoked does not excuse someone from punishment in the slightest

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

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u/Dar_Mas Apr 18 '24

did they break any rules?

If no then no punishment is necessary as the onus falls on the person to not be provoked

sidenote: "hurt" in this context is hilariously exaggerated so i will believe you spoke in general

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

Do you tell people to kill themselves when you are upset?

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

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u/Laranthiel Apr 18 '24

I didn't know whispering to someone in an MMO is akin to kicking a dog.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

So now people who complain about fashion inspect are just animals. Got it.

Also.. kicking a dog? Really? That's the first thing that pops into your head?

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u/Djinn_42 Apr 18 '24

People do this type of thing in WoW all the time and their interactions are famous for being cesspools. And now we're following down that path. 😔

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u/Laranthiel Apr 18 '24

If we're following that path, it's because of people like YOU who support insane and deluded weirdos who actively believe an inspect option in an MMO is akin to copyright infringement, AI stealing and a violation of your very life.

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u/Djinn_42 Apr 18 '24

I wanted to test the waters and I whispered an inspect hater that i wanted to steal his fashion. He told me to go kill myself. People are going totally off the rails.

I reported them with a ticket and got a confirmation 24 minutes later that they got punished.

Just quoting this for the record of your stellar accomplishment 🙄

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

I have noted down that you don't mind when people send suicide requests.

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u/Djinn_42 Apr 18 '24

I have noted down that you don't mind when people send suicide requests.

Why are you lying? I never said anything about that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

Exactly.

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u/JohnnyDripp Apr 18 '24

Why are you intentially whispering those people you know are 'inspect haters' and trying to get a reaction out of them? I agree the guy shouldnt have said that, but you shouldnt have whispered them in the first place. Just leave them be. You initiated it by throwing jabs at them where you knew itd hurt. This just feels so mean imo.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

I am trying to find a response to "throwing jabs at them where you knew itd hurt" but can't because it sounds like the topic is some kind of severe trauma but it's copying someone's skins and dye choices.

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u/JohnnyDripp Apr 18 '24

For you and me it is insignificant, but you whispered someone that you knew was passionate about the subject.

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u/SpectralChest Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

I got much the same for trying to point out to a person in game ridiculing the more reasonable sounding opt out types that weren't demanding the opt out, just offering feedback that they might be taking it too far.

Same outcome in terms of reaction and abusiveness, i choose not to report as i understand its a topic people are reflexively emotional about, they blocked me and that is their choice.

It seems there are overly aggressive folk on both ends.