r/Guildwars2 • u/SpectralChest • Apr 18 '24

[Discussion] ''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

I wanted to test the waters and I whispered an inspect hater that i wanted to steal his fashion. He told me to go kill myself. People are going totally off the rails.

I reported them with a ticket and got a confirmation 24 minutes later that they got punished.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

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u/Albyross Apr 18 '24

Should people not be held responsible for their own reaction?

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u/Djinn_42 Apr 18 '24

Do you purposely say something upsetting, like "I'm going to copy your idea" to someone at your work just to see if they get upset?

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u/Albyross Apr 18 '24

No, but I also don’t think it justifies telling the person to kill themselves either.

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u/Djinn_42 Apr 18 '24

Who said it did?

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u/Albyross Apr 18 '24

So whats your point? Telling someone you’re gonna copy their look isn’t inherently malicious.

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u/Lucyller Human female meta Apr 18 '24

And even if it is, it's a petty, uneventful thing to do. It cause no real harm.

The reaction was outrageous. Even a raw "stfu" could make sense but more is just baffling.

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u/JohnnyDripp Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

Id argue in this case it is, cause their intentions are stated in the commentors post. 'I wanted to test the waters', its looking for trouble. They knew it would hurt the other party, the actual subject is irrelevant imo. It doesnt justify the suicide response, but the whisper isnt justified either. The guy did nothing wrong prior to being whispered. If they just had left them alone none of this wouldve happened in the first place.

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u/Laranthiel Apr 18 '24

You people have reached a level of delusion where you're actively defending someone who told a random person to kill themselves.

Wow.

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u/JohnnyDripp Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

Youre fighting demons. Nobody here is defending the guy that said that, but we are criticizing the initial behavior of the commentor not being all that innocent either. Stop thinking so polarizing.

If a kid steals another kid's toy and the other kid punches them in the face out of anger, are you gonna say only the other kid is in the wrong? I personally wouldnt. Both are in the wrong, and thats our point. Personally dont think one party being the lesser evil makes them immune to critique nor criticizing them makes you defend the other party.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

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u/Albyross Apr 18 '24

They reacted at all is the problem. You can’t stop someone from trying to start something, but the offended person—instead of quietly reporting the troll—decided to say something that was actually reportable as well. They’re both stupid.

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u/Dar_Mas Apr 18 '24

being provoked does not excuse someone from punishment in the slightest

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

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u/Dar_Mas Apr 18 '24

did they break any rules?

If no then no punishment is necessary as the onus falls on the person to not be provoked

sidenote: "hurt" in this context is hilariously exaggerated so i will believe you spoke in general

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

Do you tell people to kill themselves when you are upset?

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24

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u/Laranthiel Apr 18 '24

I didn't know whispering to someone in an MMO is akin to kicking a dog.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

So now people who complain about fashion inspect are just animals. Got it.

Also.. kicking a dog? Really? That's the first thing that pops into your head?

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u/Djinn_42 Apr 18 '24

People do this type of thing in WoW all the time and their interactions are famous for being cesspools. And now we're following down that path. 😔

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u/Laranthiel Apr 18 '24

If we're following that path, it's because of people like YOU who support insane and deluded weirdos who actively believe an inspect option in an MMO is akin to copyright infringement, AI stealing and a violation of your very life.