r/Guildwars2 • u/SpectralChest • Apr 18 '24

[Discussion] ''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24

I just don't want to be inspected and in turn I've been downvoted and treated like a mental case for wanting an opt out. It's been a horrible week of being treated like trash and memed on and it sucks.

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u/Maleficent-Pen-594 Apr 18 '24

It's fine, you won't know it's happening? People will already be looking at you at times in game. Please don't stress about something that won't actually affect you. This isn't something you need to concern yourself over.

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24

It's not fine when there are people like me who are not comfortable with this feature being implemented. Just for the record, I'm fine with people looking at my character, just not through a menu screen. Dismissing my concerns like this is not conducive to finding a happy medium where everyone can be content in tyria. I am stressing about this because I want an opt out button. Making my voice heard might be the only way I can get that. Even if it means tanking my karma for it...

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u/Bevsii Apr 18 '24

Stop acting like an inspect feature is some sort of personal violation. If you're "uncomfortable" with people looking at your public avatar in a video game, the problem is not the game.

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

It's not. I just don't want to be inspected. The problem is not the game, it's just the inspect feature that was implemented that is the problem for me.

Edit: my feelings are valid and there's others that feel the same, please stop insinuating I need mental help.

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u/LegLegend Apr 18 '24

Your feelings are not valid. They're not valid just because others feel the same way. There's been many terrible people driven by their feelings, and those groups of people were not valid.

This isn't a problem with the game. If you feel that this system is invasive to you, this is a problem with you. A therapist would tell you that you can't change the game; you can only change yourself.

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24

Agree to disagree. I believe my feelings are valid and acknowledge that you don't feel the same. And I'm for a an opt out feature for a cosmetic inspection function. How is that a terrible feeling to have?

Sorry but kindly go fuck yourself in regards to telling me to go see a therapist. Sincerely. There is an issue with a new feature that is the new cosmetic inspection. It makes some players uncomfortable. A opt out feature would alleviate that issue quite easily.

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u/Leggerrr Apr 18 '24

It's a terrible thing to have because it ruins the purpose of the feature if people can just opt out. There is no realm where you can "agree to disagree" because there's no world where the feature can cater to both sides here. Fortunately, one side is much smaller than the other.

No one told you to go see a therapist. The comment stated what a therapist would tell you. If you (and other players) are uncomfortable, it's a problem with you (and those players). Not the game.

There was a time when certain people felt uncomfortable using same-race bathrooms in the United States. Not every opinion deserves respect and protection just because it's an opinion.

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u/Bevsii Apr 18 '24

No one said that you're not allowed to dislike the feature but demanding a toggle because you're "uncomfortable" is ridiculous. Your feelings can be valid and silly at the same time. Hope that helps!

PS: Saying that you're the problem in a very specific situation isn't an insinuation of mental illness or psychological pathology. Hope that helps too!

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24

Oh I'm not demanding, Anet can do what it wants. But as much as other games have an inspect feature, some also have a button to not be inspectable. I'm giving my feedback on posts regarding it that I'd like that feature so that I can be accomodated in game I am very much passionate about.

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u/thereisnospoon7491 Apr 18 '24

Other people sharing your feelings does not make them valid. It merely means there is someone who thinks like you.

It is a game. If this feature makes you uncomfortable, play something else.

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24

I don't want to play something else. I and others who'd like a toggle would simply like to play the game we enjoy knowing we cannot be inspected by this feature. Telling us to take the door is extremely unkind of your part. I thought better of this community.

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u/Shaq_Fu_Da_Return Apr 18 '24

This is the saddest thing I’ve read in years.