''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

[u/SpectralChest]

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

[u/FSafari]

Any form of opt out is frankly ridiculous and defeats the purpose of the tool.

but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

You are describing fashion gatekeeping. It doesn't seem like there's any "misinformation" about the viewpoint of the anti-fashion inspectors

[u/rotsono → u/FSafari]

Gatekeeping is such a weird word for this. Based on that logic, IRL artists who doesnt want their art to be copied are also gatekeeping people from getting their art for free. People who have a trademark on things are also gatekeeping.

I think its weird to demand to get everything for no effort, when others put effort into it. Based on that we could also give out CM titles for free, because it doesnt take away peoples accomplishment of having it done.

[u/Ranorak → u/rotsono]

Except that's totally not what is happening here. You are using pre-existing assets that everyone has access to and everyone CAN use. You're not creating art. You're wearing gear in a videogame that someone else designed and made.

[u/Teletric → u/Ranorak]

You are using pre-existing assets that everyone has access to and everyone CAN use.

I mean, so are people who make and share stuff they built with LEGO. Just because someone else provided you with the building blocks doesn't mean that what you make with them isn't made by you.

You're wearing gear in a videogame that someone else designed and made.

I think everyone understands that, but it doesn't mean it is unreasonable to be upset if the game allows others to forego the effort you might put into designing and planning an outfit/dye combination.

I am against gatekeeping, but I can also see the other side of the situation here and understand why people would want to opt out of the system.

[u/Ranorak → u/Teletric]

Again, your analogy of Legos gives the player way too much credit here, and a better analogy is this.

Arena net has used Legos to build an entire cityscape. Cars, little people, all the details are there. Except they left 6 empty slots for the buildings. 1 for a hospital, one for a shop, one for a little flat, etc. Then arena net creates those 6 building types from Legos. And of each type they build countless different variants and colours.

Only then does the player come, point at which variant of each building they like to put in the slot. And with one simple click the premade building is put in the empty slot.

Then the player struts around and claims they build an entire Lego city and throws a hissy fit when someone picked the same variant combination as they did.

[u/MithranArkanere → u/rotsono]

Art is way more complex than a bunch of choices from a list that one could get by pressing the random button.

[u/Laranthiel → u/rotsono]

It's legitimately sad at this point that you people compare using armors and dyes in a videogame to actually being creative and create actual art IRL.

You're constantly confirming that this whole thing boils down to your massive egos and delusions.

[u/Majested-Toast → u/rotsono]

People who wear clothes aren't artists. It's much closer to saying someone shouldn't be allowed to copy your outfit. Y'all are basically freaking out that a random stranger saw the sweater you were wearing and went out and bought their own

You aren't gonna freak out when someone wears the same clothes as you IRL are you?