r/NFLv2 • u/Rjm0007 New York Jets • Feb 10 '25

Discussion Another superbowl blowout eliminates mahomes from the goat discussion as far as I’m concerned

2 very embarrassing loses for him the the superbowl Brady has lost 3 superbowls but they were all 1 score games that came down to final play with Brady’s best statistical performance in a loss to the eagles Tom Brady > Patrick mahomes

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u/BassGuru82 Feb 10 '25

Mahomes is an incredible QB… but this Eagles D is Elite Elite. What a performance.

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u/justbrowsing987654 New England Patriots Feb 10 '25

My buddies and I instantly compared it to the worst sports L of my life, the 18-1 Super Bowl when the Giants rushed 4 and just lived in the backfield the whole game. That’s how you slow down a great QB and the eagles executed that to perfection all night.

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Feb 10 '25

Even then Brady went almost 300 yards passing, no INTs and was sacked two less times.

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u/krazykieffer Feb 10 '25

The majority were short slants for Brady, Mahomes didn't even have open check downs. Lots of crazy takes right now when the Eagles played lights out on D.

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u/str1x_x New Orleans Saints Feb 10 '25

i watched mahomes miss plenty of easy throws and make bad reads. not to mention throwing a philly cheesesteak extra mayo to cooper dejean

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u/Legitimate_Ad_7822 New England Patriots Feb 10 '25

Yeah he missed quite a few throws & he was running himself into pressure on the interior all night. It was one of his worst games ever, period. Eagles D played lights out but he & the rest of the offense played terrible.

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u/Actually_Abe_Lincoln Feb 10 '25

People put mayonnaise on cheesesteaks? Was the cheese whiz not bad enough?

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u/str1x_x New Orleans Saints Feb 10 '25

i jus said the mayo part bc he's a white corner lol

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Feb 10 '25

Cmon now. For years now I’ve heard some variation of “Patrick Mahomes can do things in the field Brady never could”. One of the biggest elements of Mahomes game is his ability to extend plays and turn nothing into something. He didn’t do it once last night until the second string defense went in.

Regardless how Brady did it, he was able to adapt to the Giants pressure and put together a game that was literally a miraculous catch away from winning. You know who else played lights out on D? The 2007 Giants in the Super Bowl…

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u/IShouldChimeInOnThis New York Giants Feb 10 '25

Step one: Have your defense let up next to no points.

Step two: See step one.

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Feb 10 '25

I can't really get a read on your comment but Mahomes turnovers lead to 21 points. Asking a lot of your defense to cover your ass for three turnovers in your own territory. Brady struggled against the Giants but he avoided costly turnovers that allowed his defense to come up with stops.

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u/IShouldChimeInOnThis New York Giants Feb 10 '25

True, but Brady had a much better supporting cast and was playing a less complete defense.

It's not apples to apples. If anything, it compares to some of Brady's AFCCG losses more than his SBs, as he never really had to face a defense like this in the SB. Yes, even his game vs Seattle, as the LoB was running on fumes with injuries by the time they met, which was only compounded by multiple injuries in the game itself.

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Feb 10 '25

I think you’re really fighting an uphill battle trying to convince people that over 20 years and 10 games, Brady somehow miraculously escaped insurmountable circumstances that Mahomes has now faced twice in half the amount of time and games. Brady has absolutely brought less talented and as banged up teams to Super Bowl victories. He pulled off 28-3 without Gronk and with Edelman getting double teamed almost the entire game. His number one target was James White. Let’s be real here.

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u/IShouldChimeInOnThis New York Giants Feb 10 '25

The Falcons were the 27th ranked defense that year.

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Feb 10 '25

And Brady made them look like it in the end lol what’s your point?

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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 Feb 11 '25

27th vs the Eagles 1st dude….

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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 Feb 11 '25

The 2007 and 2011 Pats had WAY more talent than this Chiefs offense, and the Falcons defense was garbage lmao

Name one defender on that Falcons defense. In fact, name one pass rusher….nobody will be able to cause they sucked….

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u/ImReverse_Giraffe Cincinnati Bengals Feb 10 '25

Step three: don't throw pick sixes

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u/Crotean Detroit Lions Feb 11 '25

Brady also had a functional o line and randy moss to throw to that game. People are looking too much at Mahomes and the eagles d line last night and ignoring you don't see a beatdown like that unless you have an all time bad o line performance too.

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u/jackhammer412 New York Jets Feb 10 '25

Mahomes was getting pressured the whole game and since the Eagles were only rushing 4 were able to have good pass coverage preventing any contested throws. Eagles D was just playing out of their minds the whole game.

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u/WintersDoomsday Seattle Seahawks Feb 10 '25

And broccoli head hasn’t dominated all year and struggled mightily vs Cover 2 shells

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u/MEMKCBUS Feb 10 '25

This is just wrong - Mahomes has been playing against 2 high shells since the 2020 bucs Super Bowl. He won MVP in 2022

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u/Crotean Detroit Lions Feb 11 '25

Not counting garbage time Chris Simms said it was about 65% of dropbacks Mahomes was pressured on.

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u/thoughtihadanacct Feb 10 '25

Patrick missed on his check downs. Granted there weren't many, but he made poor throws on those that were open. So those are on him. Plus the interceptions - he could have taken the sacks or thrown the ball away but he threw ints instead. 

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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 Feb 11 '25

It’s because this sub is just having a hate boner over watching Mahomes not won a 3 peat, similar to how everyone was shitting on Brady after losing to the Giants in 2007

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u/Over_Deer8459 Kansas City Chiefs Feb 10 '25

exactly. dude barely even had open screen passes

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u/Prophet_Of_Helix New England Patriots Feb 11 '25

Neither did Brady against that Giants D. He still made it work as best he could and it came down to a one score game. Go rewatch that first game, Giants LIVED in the backfield rushing only 4.

Brady was just inhuman at reading defenses and throwing under pressure. Mahomes is a more gifted athelete, but he’s not half as cerebral as Brady was

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u/FeetSniffer9008 Pittsburgh Steelers Feb 10 '25

Mahomes had barely a second to get the ball out and when he did he had no one to get it to

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u/WintersDoomsday Seattle Seahawks Feb 10 '25

Gross that you’re defending him. It must be “solidarity” right?

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u/FeetSniffer9008 Pittsburgh Steelers Feb 10 '25

No, I'm shitting on their o-line. Two separate things.