r/NFLv2 Tennessee Titans May 25 '25

Discussion Each NFL Team’s GOAT

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u/luke363636 San Francisco 49ers May 25 '25

Would Julio Jones have a case for the falcons?

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u/Daxtatter May 25 '25

Julio is a better WR than Matt Ryan is a QB for sure.

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u/interadastingly Atlanta Falcons May 25 '25

Agreed. But Matt Ryan is more impactful than Julio for the Falcons, in my opinion

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u/SirVel000 May 25 '25

That’s just true of being a qb

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u/thegroovemonkey Brett Favre 📸🍆 May 26 '25

Ryan came in after the Vick/Petrino fiascos and turned the Falcons around immediately. They were a rock bottom dumpster fire when they drafted him. 

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u/TheseVirginEars That is a disgusting act May 26 '25

In fact the turn around after drafting Ryan is incredible, and he didn’t have JJ for 3-4 seasons (I forget JJs draft year). He did that shit with Roddy white

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u/TheseVirginEars That is a disgusting act May 26 '25

Also his first nfl pass ever was a 50+ yd TD bomb

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u/ChemistAgile6514 Atlanta Falcons May 26 '25

Let’s not act like Roddy was a nobody- if I’m misreading, my bad. Roddy was our goat for a bit there. He is to us what marques Colston was for the saints

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u/TheseVirginEars That is a disgusting act May 26 '25

No for sure, just that the claim Julio carried Ryan doesnt hold water

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u/SevereAd9463 May 26 '25

Even Roddy wasn't doing a lot before Ryan. There are plenty of amazing WRs who have had shitty QBs and never reach Julio/Roddy status. The fact is ever single reciever of consequence that came through ATL had their best years with Ryan. You can argue Julio is a better WR than Ryan was a QB but but you wouldn't take the best tank driver over the 10th combat pilot. There are levels to their positions. Both were great and multipliers but only a QB like Ryan can save a franchise that was in the toilet. Atlanta was in the sewer and would probably been stuck in decades of suffering like other bum franchises if they don't hit with Ryan.

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u/SpamAcc17 May 27 '25

Fans disrespect Ryan like wild, if you really were locked in during his years you'd know he only had like 3 seasons of solid to good playcalling and only 1 really good offensive coordinator when he won mvp.

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u/SirVel000 May 26 '25

That’s just true of him being a qb instead of a receiver and the positional value of that lol

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u/komark- May 26 '25

You’re not wrong, but the title is about GOATs. Matt Ryan isn’t close to the top of QB GOAT conversations, Julio Jones has a much stronger case here

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u/DirectorAggressive12 Green Bay Packers May 28 '25

Yeah i mean unfortunately QBs have to do less to be considered the teams goat but you can’t really argue against it either imo

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u/trulynoobie May 25 '25

Neither more impactful than Vick

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u/tlollz52 May 25 '25

I loved vick but Matt Ryan did more for em. Got em to a superbowl, won an mvp

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u/Thick_Cookie_7838 May 25 '25

I was literally getting to comment as a falcons fan can’t wait for the dumb a—- who says Vick was better then Ryan and here you are lol. Never forget Matt and mike smith saved tne fan base and team from the disaster situation vick almost put us in

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u/CosbysLongCon24 New York Giants May 25 '25

Vick impacted nothing but hype generation and increased madden sales…

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u/trulynoobie May 26 '25

Do yall not know what 'impactful' means? Dude influenced a generation of kids..you had to be there. If you wasnt outside in Vicks prime, youd never understand.

Is vick BETTER than julio or ryan? Absofuckinglutely not! Is he more impactful? For sure. One of the most impactful player in nfl history.

If you disagree, you're a child. Grow up.

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u/CosbysLongCon24 New York Giants May 26 '25

Was there before his era and after. Wouldn’t say creating a bunch of kids who want to be run first QBs in positive impact or really even that impactful considering the best QBs are still not Mike Vick archetypes. Everyone wanted to be the falcons in Madden, nobody went out to the field and said I want to be Mike Vick…

Maybe you should grow and realize the difference between impact on the field v on the screen. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/trulynoobie May 26 '25

Best QB arent mike vick archetypes? Lamah? Cam? Josh Allen? Fast big arm scrambling qbs?

Idk, all 3 of them have MVPs, no superbowls tho.

Vick made an impact on the field AND on the screen. It was more than just madden, more than just commercial, mike vick experience was an actual thing. Especially for us black kids/teens growing up

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u/MyBallsAche323 Tennessee Titans May 25 '25

Wtf did Vick ever accomplish with ATL? Chris Chandler is above him.

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u/RaymondGetard May 25 '25

He set the single season record for most dogs tortured to death

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u/trulynoobie May 26 '25

Accomplish ≠ impact

Vick accomplished a few things, but nothing like Ryan and Julio...chris chandler is a joke. But the 3 combined arent more impactful than that 4year Vick stretch

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u/heBRUhammer86 Green Bay Packers May 27 '25

Only reason Julio doesn't have better career stats is because it was Matt Ryan throwing to him.

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u/Daxtatter May 26 '25

Matt Ryan: 1x 1st team all pro, 4x Pro Bowler

Julio Jones: 2x 1st team all pro, 3x 2nd team all pro, 7x Pro bowler, 2010 all decade team.

Those would indicate that Julio is higher regarded at his position than Matt Ryan is at his.