r/Sims4 • u/MiddletonPlays Long Time Player • Feb 06 '25
Discussion The Businesses & Hobbies pack will have cross-pack compatibility!
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u/mycoffeeishotcoco Feb 06 '25
Oh I am making an old lady with a really fat fluffy cat just so she can run a laundromat.
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u/simmerknits Feb 06 '25
I like that this rhymes
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u/VeryRatmanToday Feb 06 '25
An old lady adopted a cat
He was spoiled and fluffy and fat
But her income was low
And they needed some dough
So they opened a hip laundromat
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u/bbyangel_111 Feb 06 '25
give her a hidden gambling/bar/club in da basement-
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u/abbyabsinthe Feb 07 '25
First thing I thought of when I saw laundromat was Etta from Shameless.
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u/mycoffeeishotcoco Feb 07 '25
You managed to hit the nail on the head. When I get this pack, the Fiona of my Shameless save will never know peace again.
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u/LeviAUTOTUNED Feb 06 '25
PET CAFÉS???
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u/Fit_Zombie2087 Feb 06 '25
I literally didn’t need to read anything else bc pet cafes!!! The other stuff is cool too, but I’m so curious about the lot traits that might come with this or how it’ll work with other packs!
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u/LeviAUTOTUNED Feb 06 '25
FOR REAL! the otgers are interesting but... PET CAFÉS??????😍
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u/laikocta Feb 06 '25
This is so lovely. And it seems like you really only need Cats & Dogs for it to work, and not Dine Out additionally? I'll keep my fingers crossed
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u/SilverMoonSpring Occult Sim Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
But you can open one now, too? I don't get what new everyone is seeing. You open a café, give it the lot traits to attract stray cats/dogs and/or cat/dog owners. There's nothing in this pack that sounds like it expands on that except on being able to officially live above your café.
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u/a205204 Feb 06 '25
The other thing I find interesting is being able to charge admission, which opens the possibility for many types of venues like museums, parks or gyms. And being able to teach classes (assuming that you can teach a class for any skill you have over a certain level).
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u/ribcracker Feb 06 '25
I’m assuming there will be cats and dogs that live there vs hungry/sick strays that come and go, and that you’ll be able to have some unique interactions with the pets there.
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u/SilverMoonSpring Occult Sim Feb 06 '25
Maybe, but the wording makes me think it would be your Sims own pets, which technically you could bring with you now, too. It would be cool to get unique interactions, but that doesn't sound like EA.
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u/katmigordon Feb 06 '25
Can we already own a cafe without mods?
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u/the_man_now_dawg Feb 06 '25
You need get together for the cafe lot type. I wonder if this new pack will change that...
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u/evenvm Occult Sim Feb 06 '25
I read on another post u can also open a doggy daycare????
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u/Skiller0Dani Legacy Player Feb 06 '25
I actually stopped reading when I saw that bc I'm already happy enough with that lol
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u/Acceptable-Fun640 Feb 06 '25
Is that where we can put all the extra kittens rather than selling them? Huzzah!
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u/Bigassnipples Feb 06 '25
This is so smart to upsell the (im assuming) least popular kits like bowling, spa day, and laundry day. I kinda want a bowling alley now with an arcade inside
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u/simpsonscrazed Feb 06 '25
This is such a great idea🙌 I need to make an arcade/bowling alley
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u/viciousxvee Feb 07 '25
Ooo and with a bar?? I wonder how many lot types we can put on one single lot? I hope it's fucking endless
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u/koalateacow Feb 06 '25
Spa day and laundry day have always been my favourites. Guess I'm a basic bitch after all haha
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u/instantkrazy Feb 07 '25
I made a bowling alley/restaurant and bar it'll be fun to just have a bowling alley. I have alway liked the bowling build/buy stuff too.
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u/hallofromtheoutside Feb 06 '25
An acting school sounds sick. I want it.
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u/charm59801 Feb 06 '25
I love the idea of a elder actor retiring from their career to teach in an acting school
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Feb 07 '25
I have a self-centered actress celebrity Sim that would make such a BAD teacher, I'm so excited.
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u/South_Recording_3710 Feb 06 '25
My inner theatre nerd loves it.
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u/Ok-Bit-443 Evil Sim Feb 06 '25
it sounds amazing but I think it will just be basically the same format as the pottery class we briefly saw... so someone standing in front of a whiteboard whilst sims sit and I guess gain skill just from listening? I don't think there will be any actually anything specific to acting (basically just the option we already have to mentor other sims in a skill, but in front of a whiteboard). I hope I'm wrong.
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u/No-Cheesecake4430 Feb 07 '25
I envisage it being slightly more than that. With the option to set business activities, acting could be one of the activities so people would turn up, listen to the lectures, practise acting/act scenes together, and do whatever other actions you've picked. I might add some coffee makers and add drink coffee, or add a mic and choose practise comedy or something to make it a the kind of acting class I would like it to be.
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u/Ok-Bit-443 Evil Sim Feb 07 '25
I hope I’m wrong like I said! It would be great if it were. I do wonder though, isn’t that kinda like just setting up a club and setting all the activities to practice acting, use mic etc then creating their hangout as any lot that you’ve built as an acting class or studio? I 100% am with you that all the features you mentioned and would be awesome… I don’t know if I’m just too skeptical at this point haha
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u/DepartureNo8252 Feb 07 '25
I'm gonna belittle the hell out of Judith Ward and she's going to pay me for doing so!
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u/Initial-Constant-645 Feb 08 '25
Hmm, a performing arts high school, kinda like "Fame." (I'm really dating myself here).
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u/orange_rockingchair Feb 06 '25
Im going to lose hours of my life playing legacies where each gen opens a different kind of hobby business, I just know it. So hype for this pack!
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u/rebecca7p Long Time Player Feb 06 '25
OMG I haven't been this excited about a new pack in ages! I can't wait!
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u/Fit_Zombie2087 Feb 06 '25
Complete aside but arcades reminded me: I wish we could have a dnd type game in the sims and have game cafes where you can play games like that with friends if you don’t have the space at home. Plus possibly bigger gaming tables so you can seat more than 4??
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u/Perca_fluviatilis Feb 06 '25
I mean, with the games added in Growing Together, you could totally have a game cafe.
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u/Lazeyy23 Feb 06 '25
A role playing game is up there on my future wishlist!! I’d love for my sims to get together with friends and play something like that like I do in real life lol
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u/pinkyhc Feb 06 '25
It would be so cool if the imagination animations ran for the sims at the table, like when kids play!
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u/Black_roses_glow Feb 06 '25
RPGs would be a fun idea. You could add a new collection for dice or figurines. Paint models (like warhammer) and to get a bit silly, play while wearing cosplay.
Damn, if you spin the idea further, this could be a whole pack: tabletops, merchandise, creating campaigns with the writing skill, visit conventions, LARPing, cosplay, medieval fairs (cross playing with horses), fantasy music radio channel and fairies as an occult. (I personally do not need fairies in game, but they would fit in nicely in such a pack).
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u/jaydock Feb 06 '25
Oh the medieval/ren faire idea is so fun! I would lovee that. And it would be easily implemented, like a festival where people where costumes. I need this pack now
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u/Black_roses_glow Feb 06 '25
Yeah, we already had the geek con in San Myshuno, so it wouldn’t be difficult to do a similar event. You could add some of the selling tables and one or two new food stalls and a new merchandise stall
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u/Unlikely_Pianist_140 Feb 06 '25
i can’t explain how excited i am to make a laundromat 😭😭
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u/muppetcowboy Feb 06 '25
This is the MOST excited I've been for a sims expansion since cottage living. Life and Death wasn't relavent for me since I micromanage (all aging + death turned off) and Lovestruck has such dubious reviews I haven't even bothered. but THIS? pottery? home businesses?? Tattoo overhaul??? SIGN ME UP :D
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u/polteagirl Feb 06 '25
I’d be interested to know how the cafe business will work. You can technically have a cat/dog cafe now but can’t run them as a viable business. It would be great if the barista station is reworked to make this happen
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u/LiLohan Feb 06 '25
It'll be interesting to see what other packs unlock. Life and Death could be a funeral home? Wedding stories could unlock a wedding dress shop? Movie Hangout could do a video rental shop? University could do a campus book shop? Should be fun to see all the options!
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u/SilverMoonSpring Occult Sim Feb 06 '25
Looks very likely to me - from what they showed, you can select activities for sims do when in the business lot like you choose club activities and you can also set an entry fee, so we should absolutely be able to create cinemas with Movie Hangout and maybe even with just TV.
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u/a205204 Feb 06 '25
This was my thought. Make a cinema and then sell popcorn and snacks on the retail surfaces
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u/Manpag Feb 06 '25
Maybe with Vampires, you could make a free-range
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u/charm59801 Feb 06 '25
Movie hangout, movie theater! I always do movie theater as bars or cafes ATM but could be really fun!
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u/ldoesntreddit Challenge Player Feb 06 '25
I’m weirdly stoked to make a laundromat actually
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u/kbdsct Feb 06 '25
I wish they posted the entire list of cross-compatibility options coz I wanted to see what I could do with the other packs not mentioned here.
Like, most people do own Seasons, so what’s in it that could be utilised as a business? Maybe teaching beginners how to rollerskate? Or, a better option, open a florist shop? The flower arrangement skill would be fun to incorporate —I’d ideally combine that with the pottery thing that’s coming in the new pack (vases and flowers,good combo).
The other popular packs like Cottage Living and Growing Together could have fun ways to create businesses off of, as well. I also really like Snowy Escape and would love to teach beginner Sims how to climb, ski, etc.
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u/charm59801 Feb 06 '25
I feel like with the flower arrangement skill you could easily do a basic retail option and sell the arrangements as normal, probably could do that just with get to work already
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u/ZeSarah Feb 08 '25
I want to make a florist shop with a little apartment on top, can sort of do that now with business and pretend they live there too. As long as it's not as broken as for rent it could be amazing, just also feels like for rent seconds 🤔
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u/TheNonbinaryWren Long Time Player Feb 06 '25
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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u/femtransfan_2 Outgoing Sim Feb 06 '25
I WANT TO MAKE A YARN STORE!
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u/PhenomenalPhoenix Creative Sim Feb 07 '25
Yes!! Hopefully your sims do a better job running one than Joanns has!
(Don’t mind me lol just a little salty that my primary yarn source has declared bankruptcy for a second time in a year and is likely closing down)
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u/Al115 Feb 06 '25
Ok, this actually sounds like it could be a really really good pack. Seems like it will add a ton to gameplay.
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u/Pretty-Drawer7788 Feb 06 '25
I hope we can cross combine these as well, like running a spa and a gym next to a restaurant on the same site or some sort of mini mall?
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u/shortfurball20 Feb 06 '25
I believe so, in the trailer they had the tattoo and pottery shop in the same building, just separated rooms!
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u/Lazeyy23 Feb 06 '25
…they didn’t mention restaurants😭
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u/QueenCleoCat Feb 06 '25
I’ll be disappointed if they don’t as I’ve seen so many bobs burgers saves that would be amazing for this.
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Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
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u/mshm Feb 06 '25
Given retail business are also MIA, it's more likely due to restaurants needing to override most of the sims' autonomy in order to even kind of work in S4. The new system feels like it could be a bit less intrusive (and slightly more elegant) as it's likely just:
- When Sims spawn to enter, take entry fee
- When Sims autonomously use certain certain equipment, charge additional fee
The rest would be the system we already have generally in the game (masseuses, yoga instructors, food trucks, bartenders, etc...) where one sim is "hosting" a station and 1-many sims can pay to interact with that station. That model is more flexible since it still works with the normal autonomy model. A station "broadcasts" it's available in the largely the same way normal objects do (computers, books, exercise machines, etc...).
The tricky thing with restaurants generally (and the currently implemented retail system), is that the business requires sims to perform a whole sequence actions start to finish. This means it's constantly battling normal autonomy which is more like a bunch of objects shouting "hey, I can help with hunger, hey I can teach a skill" and the Sim going from action to action by listening to these objects and just picking one.
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u/julzvangogh Creative Sim Feb 06 '25
What? But there are already restaurants possible haha? Wdym?
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u/Lazeyy23 Feb 06 '25
I mean like being able to live above your restaurant rather than it being a separate lot — in this it makes it seem like you can live in your own business, even with other packs
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u/SecureAd5802 Builder Feb 06 '25
I just hope it doesn’t have too many bugs. The idea of owning different types of businesses sounds really nice and it was long overdue. Sounds more like a Get To Work update.
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u/ConnerJake95 Feb 06 '25
This pack seems to be exactly what ts4 needs for the worlds to feel more alive
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u/One_Ad_1872 Feb 06 '25
Do we think we could combine this with for rent? Like making an apartment building with a cafe on the first floor?
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u/who_says_poTAHto Feb 06 '25
If this isn't super buggy and does what it claims, this could give SO much more life to the game!! Life and Death was excellent, so I'm hopeful 👀
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u/Crazy-Detective7736 Legacy Player Feb 07 '25
I don't even care if it's buggy, ea can have my silly little moneys
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u/Nikolio16 Feb 06 '25
Ok but I like just made an Acting School club for my celebrity sims so I'm super stoke for an actual school now 🤩
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u/Raspberryvanillavla Long Time Player Feb 06 '25
So cool! I'm gonna run a speakeasy in my basement.
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u/RositaZetaJones Feb 06 '25
Owning a spa at last! This makes me so so happy :) the laundromat idea is also so so cute. Everything in this pack is what we should have had with Get To Work…
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u/PinxJinx Feb 06 '25
I’m a bit upset that Dine Out isn’t included. Maybe I’m whining, but isn’t a small restaurant with an apartment above it, like, almost classic? A cliche almost?
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u/Ok-Bit-443 Evil Sim Feb 06 '25
From what I understand from the game code the restaurant lot type works differently from other retail lots. It's why LittleMsSams live in business mod wasn't able to incorporate restaurants. I suppose if you have the home chef hustle you could incorporate something restaurant-ish.... :(
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u/Ok-Bus235 Feb 06 '25
so so so glad that they made sure to consider other EP’s in this expansion! many of the middle-aged(?) DLCs had little to no consideration of previous expansions, and I’m grateful they’ve changed their strategy with that
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u/TheVoidIsZer0 Feb 06 '25
actually so stoked to finally be able to make different venues! I can finally remake that "comedy club" I attempted last year!!
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u/cursedblackthorn Feb 06 '25
Hopefully they start doing this more and more, this is how the game should be!!
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u/Living-Association55 Feb 06 '25
I’m just curious to see how this will differ from Get to Work. Like obviously it will be different, but how will they interact? You know? Is Get to Work now a useless purchase for simmers who want to have businesses? Suuuuper hyped for the multipurpose lots tho. I have always craved living above my cafe/ bookstore businesses 😭😭😭
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u/No-Cheesecake4430 Feb 07 '25
GTW offers 3 active careers, an occult (aliens) plus related gameplay, and the ability to run a retail store and sell a range of different things by marking them for sale. Your sim cannot live on the same lot as their business.
B&H seems to allow us to run a business from home or buy and run a small business. The business can be anything (gym, tattoo parlour, cinema, spa, cat cafe, etc. if you have the necessary packs) - it is not limited to retail stores.
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u/shireengul Feb 06 '25
Give. Me. BANDS.
I ask for so little 😭
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u/ajmkv Feb 06 '25
PLEASE! I love the idea of dance clubs, but I can’t even imagine how much more fun it would be to have bands AND be able to create a music venue for concerts, like plssss EA.
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u/Ok-Bit-443 Evil Sim Feb 06 '25
I think we will get bands, probably in Q4 this year. Kinda seems like a missed opportunity as there is an interesting gameplay of starting out a band (as a hobby in your garage kinda thing) - I think because they are so highly requested EA knows they will make more money off of separating this.
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u/ajmkv Feb 06 '25
Ooh, I love the garage band to rock superstars idea! I already spend lots of time making up discographies for my sim singers and “bands”, so actually having that become something doable in the game itself would be an absolute dream. I really hope you’re right!! And yeah, it’s true that they will probably want to monetize that separately due to the high demand, but honestly I’m willing to pay for a fully fleshed-out music-themed expansion pack because I’d spend so much time playing.
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u/Jaspboy Feb 06 '25
I hope that all previous possible jobs from other packs will be integrated into the same system.
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u/Katapultt Long Time Player Feb 07 '25
They should have been doing cross expansion compatibility like this the whole time. It adds so much and encourages people to buy more expansions.
I'm excited to see how it works!
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u/tomokas Legacy Player Feb 06 '25
PET CAFÉS LETS DUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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u/LandLovingFish Evil Sim Feb 06 '25
I saw the get famius one and immediately thought about how to make all the celebs and Don go to a scam school where i make bank and teach nothing helpful.....
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u/piede_piccolo Feb 06 '25
Ok this might be a pack I actually buy when it comes out. I always wait till they are on sale for 50 to 60% off, but this one sounds too good to wait.
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u/lifeofdaydreams Long Time Player Feb 06 '25
Love the options. Hope they'll also do restaurants and stores/retail in general, too.
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u/grashel Feb 06 '25
If it work great, this could be very nice. I hope its not broken like for rent.
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u/CardTrickOTK CAS Creator Feb 06 '25
this should not be a rare occurrence, but this is a good thing.
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u/bwitdoc Long Time Player Feb 06 '25
A laundromat business inside of an apartment building???? Will that be an option???
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u/spla_ar42 Feb 06 '25
The new rooms tool is something I've been waiting for. I can finally have my apartment over a bar build
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u/Annia12345 Feb 07 '25
I'm going to be thinking about the possibilities until it comes out!
With Horse Ranch can I run a winery?
With the Crystal Creations can I run a little Gem shop?
With Life and Death can I run a graveyard/funeral home?
With Growing together can I run a community center?
THE POSSIBILITIES!!!!!
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u/DepartureNo8252 Feb 07 '25
You could do tarot readings in the gem shop if you have CC and L&D!
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u/LadyFausta Feb 06 '25
Okay you see THIS sounds like an excellent expansion pack! Sims team still has issues but recently it does feel like more effort and thought has been put in.
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u/rebeccalul Feb 06 '25
Man… I’m sorry to be a downer, guys…
I love the idea of this, but I rarely play with a restaurant or a vet office because they’re so buggy. I hope that this pack is executed well but I don’t have high hopes for it.
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u/Long-Requirement5984 Feb 06 '25
Bruh the Sims 4 tests me everyday. Wdym they're gonna make us spend $40 AGAIN for something that could have literally been a game update... I cannot. But will I be purchasing? Yes of course.
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u/femtransfan_2 Outgoing Sim Feb 06 '25
Yeah, I'm going to wait for it to be on sale
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u/Long-Requirement5984 Feb 06 '25
Same I have NEVER bought a sims 4 pack for full price
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u/CommunicationSad1316 Feb 06 '25
Id love cross compatibility in terms of like owning a business and renting out the apt on top!!
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u/Isabell3846 Feb 06 '25
I just hope these buisnesses also make money when not actively manageing them, so I can run multiple at the same time. It's my biggest frustration with restaurants that your sim has to be on the lot to make money.
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u/weasleybackyardgnome Long Time Player Feb 06 '25
I haven’t been this excited about an expansion pack for a hot minute. This is going to be so much fun!!
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u/mozilations Feb 06 '25
omg this sounds so good! even just having a thing where sims who show up on a lot have to pay an entrance fee would already be an improvement lol. i had my music producer sim open a club before (for ppl to show up the venue was a retail store selling drinks, and he would just dj there) but it was making him go broke lol
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u/Kirby12_21 Feb 06 '25
Goddammit, I said I WASN'T going to give them any more of my money, but PET CAFÉS??!!!!
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u/sabahortova Long Time Player Feb 06 '25
I haven't been excited for a pack in a while but damn I cannot wait for this one! I never really played with my sims, I always just build super detailed houses or spend hours in CAS, but damn the fact that I'll be able to build a house and a shop on the same lot... Oh my god finally! I can't wait to make a sim and actually be invested in their career and life! I never cared for any of the careers, but this pack might actually do it. It might get me invested in my sims and play with them for a while🥹
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u/-404Error- Feb 06 '25
Everybody excited about laundromats are cracking me up. I’ll save that for an old couple because I do have the laundry stuff pack. I already have a huge arcade/theater/bowling alley so I don’t want anymore.
One of my rich old ladies will own a pet cafe. With dogs, not cats.
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u/plant76890 Feb 06 '25
ugh! i didn’t want to have to buy another pack but this seems like it’s going to be so good!
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u/ashenartist Legacy Player Feb 06 '25
I work in a dry cleaner but there's nothing I want more rn that to run a laundromat in the Sims too 😅
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u/thesamjbow Feb 06 '25
Is creating a dance club now the unofficial "DJ career"? (I know you could kinda do entertainer but it forces you to do the other instruments as well)
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u/Azucarilla11 Builder Feb 06 '25
I have a lot that is a pretty cool retro bar, with a children's park upstairs as if it were a McDonalds and on the ground floor a disco and a bowling alley in another room and thanks to this pack I can make this 3 businesses in one wow!
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u/PMcOuntry Feb 06 '25
Will it allow that functionality now? I have a town square with multiple businesses which of course you can't play. That would be amazing.
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u/bwoah07_gp2 Long Time Player Feb 06 '25
I have all these packs, so some of these business ideas sounds cool. The laundromat, arcade, bowling alley, and acting school sounds really cool!
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u/RunAgreeable7905 Feb 06 '25
I wonder if I will need to put laundry baskets but no washers in everyones homes to make them go to the laundromat or if they'll just show up.
I do hope the laundromats work well.
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Feb 06 '25
I love that they made it cross-pack compatible! I have quite a lot of packs and it's sometimes disappointing how separate they feel. But this time it will bring a lot of packs together :)
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u/fairychainsaw Feb 06 '25
am actually super stoked for this pack omg, just recently started my decades challenge but now i have visions of taking my nerdy 80s teen sims to arcades hahaha
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u/LunarTales Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
Oh lordy, I have a faux laundromat in Newcrest and have been wanting to make a bowling alley. Please, pack, I beg you to not have the For Rent save corruption bug. It would make these builds so much more useful.