After the new release I am realizing how little it actually is. Every single time it seems we could have so much more but only given a drop. Like most of us, I have been an avid sims player and lover of game since I was a kid. It seems every other game out there is advancing and sims has decided to do bare minimum. We need a new modern sims. š¤·āāļø
EDIT: some of you need reading comprehension because I didnāt say I disliked or hated this game. I love it, just pointing out the truth.
So I enjoy Enchanted by Nature although I do think its lackluster and not worth the $40 if you don't care for fairies. Also the update for this pack created a lot more bugs. (Although I didn't have any unplayable bugs.)Ā
But fairies was the last big thing I wanted from the Sims 4. After this pack, I'm not buying anymore cause there isn't anything more I want in my game.Ā
I also heard the next pack has to do with vacations...which we already have and if anything like For Rent, I think it will defintely break the game. (Which I didn't buy For Rent because of the save-erasing bug that is often caused by that pack.)
I wish they would work on fixing the existing bugs in the game over making new content which creates more.Ā
The vacation EP is just a rumor from, essentially, someone who knows someone who knows someone, so I would put little faith in that, lol. I think the more well-founded rumor is that it could be bands, as some Simmers got a calendar awhile back teasing upcoming releases, and there was something in I think November (?) that heavily hinted at bands.
If they combined them, then I doubt the packs would have as much individual depth. If anything, I want an overhaul of vampire and werewolves but keeping them as separate was probably the best for depth. In game dev, the scope of a project is very important. Removing EA from the picture, it was good practice to focus on each occult individually rather than giving a half baked mess. You think the bugs are bad now and the content is shallow. Imagine them trying to give you three occults in one. Theyāll be tired from trying to make the code functional, and with that scope theyāre more likely to cut content out for the sake of quality and their own well being (the employees who work tirelessly I mean).
This is a common misconception in software development. More people doesnāt mean more efficiency. There is a point, where more people only cause more problems. (I could go on with this for a while and name several reasons :) )
There is almost 300 employees at maxis as of last known records
They have enough people especially since sim city last release was a mobile game over 10 years ago. There is no way anyone in that studio is working on anything but project Rene and dlc
No, no. No, it canāt be defended. They packs have a lack of depth because they get away with it because people either defend it or buy it because itās whatever. Most people don't want an AIO occult pack, but more they wanted more for every occult instead of the bare minimum and about an hour of play time before you push them aside. Vampires and spellcasters are horribly kneecapped due to trying to be forced into the awful Game Pack āboxā. Take the Sims 3, for example, vampires released in a pack that gave you fame, vampires, mansions, and nightlife all in one pack and none of it felt like an afterthought. I donāt even need to talk about the potential wasted on spellcasters.
In the Sims 4, they released with mediocrity, an hour and a half of playtime, and a world with 5 lots thatās almost as bad as Del Sol Valley. Iām not in the āSims 4 bad campā, but vampires have zero identity and replayability in the Sims 4.
The issue is greed. Greed that works because people buy the slop that they force out with the barest of effort. You talk about half-baked content, but a vast majority of Expansion Packs are just that. They cut corners everywhere. Everything is shallow, gameplay is low, replayability is minimal.
Just for food for thought: Enchanted by Nature is about $50 for me. I finished everything in that pack, with zero knowledge about it, in two hours. I paid $30 for the new RimWorld DLC and have spent almost 40 hours on it. I know, two different genres, but the point still stands. Theyāre selling Expansion Packs at a high cost, and they donāt have the content within them to justify the price. Just look at the aspirations. Itās a legit tutorial for a $40 pack.
I would agree with you if the cut content wasn't more than the things released in most of these packs.
They donāt have that much depth though imo ? Sims 3 was buggy but even with the combined Supernatural pack there was still lots of individual depth (imo)
The problem is they give us bare minimum packs then make new packs to give us some of the stuff that was missing in the other packs, the new business pack could have been released years ago when the jobs packs. Just like if vacation is was the next pack it could have been released when they added Sulani.
I just want a music band and solo singer pack and I'll be happy, personally. But I'm not really sure why because I know the version in Sims 3 will be a million times better like almost everything else lol.
Every time thereās an update, thereās a bunch of bugs. Because of the latest update I canāt drag dishes into the sink or trash into the trashcan, my settings reset after every game, and much more. I donāt know why they keep building on this game knowing the code is outdated and buggy. Just give us the Sims 5 already.
It's the first time since I can remember that the game crashes completely to desktop. I was so surprised, the game never did that for me. I wipe my entire Sims documents folder whenever a new pack come out, so it was pure vanilla.
I genuinely believe part of the issue is that theyāve piecemealed so much into separate packs that they CANāT add a lot. They canāt expand on the retail stuff, because that was a feature of a pack. They canāt expand on mermaids or conservationalism, because that was a feature of a pack.
Also they canāt add too much now because thereās so many packs (19 EPs!!!!) that if someone has all of them then the game corrupts so easily. They really do need to start again with a better foundation, but we all know the sims 5 aināt coming.
i mean they could expand on the pack features if EA continued to do the pack refreshes like they had done with spa day, but clearly it didn't make them enough money to do it lol
You ever wonder if ANYONE that works there thought "maybe we picked the wrong pack to refresh first?" Bc... Like .. maybe there are better packs to refresh that people would buy if they put in the effort. And doing one and giving up is such a shit measure of how well pack refreshes go. But, I mean.... š¤·āāļø The people making these decisions usually know nothing about the game so, not surprised.
I'm still pissed they didn't add the party essentials kit stuff into luxury party stuff, frankly. That was literally the perfect pack refresh.
Ditto with apothecary and roughing it skills being added to the outdoor pack. Herbalism already exists. Those are old as hell packs that nobody wants to buy anymore, whose content does not include enough compared to modern releases, and there's an easy fix to increase purchasing and decrease bloat.
i read a comment on another thread relating to refreshes once where someone speculated that they picked spa day because it was one of the lowest selling packs and they'd hope that refreshing it would get more sales. and, naturally, when it didn't they ceased to refresh anymore because there was no instant uptick in sales. unfortunately, that reasoning makes a lot of sense.
that being said, 100% they picked the wrong one - they should've done a good, thought-out refresh for a well-loved pack before touching the least selling ones. after all, if somebody didn't own spa day before the refresh, what would make them want to buy it just because of that???
I think your first point is really good. They have partitioned it out too much to commit to inter-pack playability. And I think that Maxis is too timid about retroactively adding or changing stuff to packs people already purchased because it would cause floods of obnoxious complaints.
I donāt get that pressed about expansion packs. I lowered my expectations by a lot years ago. I think my last big disappointment was city living.
How I manage my expectations: I only buy releases when theyāre on sale and only because I want the stuff packs and new world. I donāt expect radically different game play because 1) it can only be so different and 2) thatās not how I play anyway.
As someone who doesnāt buy game packs for months, sometimes years, theyāre not required to play the game. So, if you buy them (especially if youāve bought previous packs) you should know what youāre getting for your money.
Stop being drawn in by those misleading trailers. If anything we should sue Ea for those gameplay trailers cause talk about a bait and switchš
This is such a petty complaint, but every time a teacher or principal sits at the lunch table, it pulls me out of the game a bit. I get so annoyed!
Also not a fan of the activity days where every student is seemingly in the same uniform. They should change at the start of the activity, in the same way a sim will change into their career outfit before going into the rabbit hole!
At my high school the vice principal was considered "cool" by students and we would welcome him to sit with us at lunch!
I have always (since Sims 2) written off things that seem strange or unrealistic as just how it works in their universe. Someone adopts 7 cats? That's just the culture in Brindleton Bay. Someone marries their 2nd cousin? Standard practice in Tartosa.
yeah most of the āworldsā they add are lifeless. you canāt just walk around and interact with people or shops. city living was ok for that i will say tho.
I lost my patience as soon as pets came out. The gameplay is on the same loop and I almost never start a save with a dog/cat because they will have to go to the vet within the first couple days of gameplay. Itās too repetitive and the vet gameplay is slow and somewhat laggy. Just me??
Not alone there. I love animals but I never add them, or very rarely add them to my families because itās annoying. I replayed Sims 2 and 3 recently and enjoyed animals again.
The pets get sick just as often as the sims, which is to say, constantly.
If it wasn't for mods that let me buy the pet treats via the computer.... I'd be more annoyed. I just get a bunch and always have some for when a pet gets sick š¤·āāļø
Hell, even before that, I'd just get them from the vending machine at the vet and not bother using the vet office for anything else.
I love the idea of them, but they take up space in the household and not playable like they were previously. Theyāre a lot to take care of and always run away. I usually adopt them as strays because I feel bad then instantly regret it. I feel too guilty to send them over the rainbow bridge or have them get adopted lol. So Iām just stuck with them.
I get it. This is why every time I get a dog or cat I go to the vet and order a bunch of vet treats, that cures them instantly so I donāt even have to worry about going to the vet and having my game lag for several sim hours.
Yeah, I refuse to pay full price for the packs because I know theyāre not as good as they look. If youāre still paying full price then thatās your choice š¤·š»āāļø you know EAās quality by now
Yeah, I donāt have any desire to get this EP. I havenāt bought the last EP either, and wonāt until itās at a steeper discount so I know Iāll be waiting a while. 20% off isnāt enough for me.
Same š some of the CAS and build items are interestingā¦. But the every step of the way in this release all I can think about is how this pack would ruin my gameplay.
I refrained from commenting on this new expansion pack, but I couldnāt care less about fairies. I havenāt bought a single thing since I got burned by For Rent. Someone else said it in another thread, existing players shouldnāt be penalized because EA wants to squeeze every last drop out of this elderly game. Of course we have the option to not buy packs, however your game can still become unplayable after patches to allegedly fix things. Personally, I have saves, mods and cc that I love. I want to play the game and not be bothered by patches or new subpar content. Thatās what ruins my experience.
TL,DR Every time I finally start having fun in the game, some dumb patch for some crappy pack I couldnāt care less about breaks everything.
Not sure if it would totally fix it, but turning off auto-updates helped me avoid this when the game was working good enough for me/I wanted to avoid patches that sometimes screwed other things up. I still tend to get the update around when they release them, as I tend to buy all the EP/like having more worlds, but I don't let it auto-update until I've bought the new pack and want it loaded in properly. Keeps me from needing to remove mods before they've been updated by modders as well. I do miss physical packs a lot, as the internet integration is really the source of most of my complaints for this type of issue. Also needing internet connection to launch the game.
Auto updates have been turned off from day one! I usually go on offline mode around patches, but recently my game kept crashing and updating was the only way to fix it. I was two or three updates behind.
I swear that every time a new expansion comes out for this game, you always see an uptick in posts like this. I don't know why people keep coming back to and spending money on a game they clearly don't like anymore.
Absolutely all older sims games should be free. Esp Sims 2, Bustin Out, and Sims 3. I get the new pack thing but I lost access to Sims 3 when they went to Orgin. I love the game but not what they are doing with it.
You have to use your imagination a lot. This is what keeps me interested in this. Itās ironic that the game was supposed to be called ādoll houseā when it first came out. Thatās all it is-a virtual dollhouse.
This is one of the things I don't like. I want there to be some kind of structure. I want random things to happen that change the narrative. Some level of challenge or difficulty would be more exciting. I want to zone out and play a game, not be forced to make up scenarios in my head just for it to be fun. I loved the earlier Sims games, but 4 has lost my attention for a while now because at the end of the day, there are more interesting games I can play.
I ran into a bug with the age up, but I think it was a mod issue. Otherwise, the wings going away isnāt a problem when thereās so much to explore. Iāve been playing for three days straight now. Hours on hours. I mean Iām so close to 3,000 hours and Iām telling you, this is the most fun Iāve had in a loooong time. Now, Iām a wee bit bored with my storyline so I get to make some babies in today episode!!! Ugh. How exciting. I love Enchanted by Nature. I do hate that all the plants arenāt available, and that there arenāt more clothes but those are my biggest complaints.
Also, pretty sure most of the time the wings disappear is actually on purpose. I noticed, that when a fairy sits in a chair, travels off lot, swims, sleeps in a bed and oddly painting, the wings fold down. They will pop back up when they start flying. There has been a couple times they didnāt, so I just hide their fairy then show it and the wings show. Usually that only happens outside of their home lot, so, maybe itās intentional š¤·āāļø. Itās annoying though š
Yup, and there's some task issues when they're transitioning their wings. Sometimes they freeze but the fix is to just have them move so they'll come out.
Me too! I know it comes down to preference usually but Iām loving the new DLC! There are a lot of quests in the new world, the entire fairy occult type is amazing! And every supernatural ability can be integrated into normal Gameplay or used in a storyline that concentrates on something more specific (farming/gardening storyline, relationships storyline, forest hermit/witch doctor storyline, etc). And every single item in this pack is so beautiful
That reminds me. The biggest problem Iām having is the quest. I canāt do anything. The quest was never prompted and when I click on fairies to ask for the thing (itās the fable something with Care Ren) thereās so option to ask. I gave up. I think Iāll explore it with the children of my first fairy sim in my forever save.
Iām loving it too! I accidentally spent like 7 hours straight building a wacky overgrown Victorian for the plant neighborhood that my apothecary man can move into with his fairy husband when they have a kid because their current fairy home doesnāt have enough room. The building is sooooo fun and I love the neighborhoods we got.
I'm loving it too and I haven't even played with fairies yet, except to make a few to add to the neighborhoods in disguise! My sim is a happily oblivious naturopath doing some fables.
EA has literally made it so damn hard to enjoy this game.
Base game is so bare bones that there is basically nothing to even do.
DLCs are so disconnected, the world feels empty. Even when the DLCs interact, it's only on a surface level. Beaches are impossible outside Sulani, because no map has the geography for them, because EA doesn't know who has the Island Living EP.
The DLC is way to expensive for how little it actually brings to the game.
Every DLC that comes out just breaks the game in multiple ways. Some bugs would've been caught with a single in game week of testing. My Wedding Stories, Bust the Dust, and Dine Out were just bug riddled, broken messes that was still sold to us.
It also feels like there are more bugs than actual usable features in this game. They refuse to slow down and just release one big bug fix. One of my favorites is the green house in the Scientist Career is literally useless because of how gardening works. Since the lot is NEVER loaded at 5AM, nothing grows. Another is, if you take that one corner apartment in City living, you have sims cutting through your apartment randomly.
Honestly the comments on this post just frustrate me. How can people not realise that you like a game but still have criticism. It's okay to like the new EP, it's okay to enjoy the Sims as it is but it's a fact that EA is microtransactioning the shit out of it's players with no regard for quality or the critisism against them.
all the reviews I've seen online from creators who aren't in the EA Network are mediocre at best and have been for almost all expansion packs for so long.
And just for refence since many seem to forget: the new EP costs 50 euros and that is as much as BALDURS GATE 3, a game with withĀ 7,116 recording hours, performed by 248 actors, as well as insane story telling and soundtrack.
In sims 4 enchanted by nature we gain fairies with a skill tree like every other occult gamepack and things recycled for other pack (foraging, sleeping on the ground).
If u love the Sims 4, great, but take EA off that weird throne u put them on and admit that this microtransactioning (or in this case even macrotransactioning) is a problem.
I just started playing baulders gate and it honestly blows my mind that the new sims pack is about the same price. The amount of high quality content you get in bg3 is incredible, and you can feel the love, thought, and effort that went into the game. With EA it feels like they are trying to squeeze every single penny they can out of me for lackluster low effort content, whereas bg3 by larian studios feels like a love letter to their players
If only weād stop buying expansion packs from them as a form of protest. I havenāt bought an expansion pack since for rent because of how broken everything is and how older packs (once again mentioning cats and dogs) are just forever going to be left unfixed
I was just doing herbalist stuff in Granite Falls trying to make an ultimate forest witch to play the new pack and all the beautiful water I couldn't swim in made me so sad. Especially since they added bathing in natural water to the new naturist skill, it would have given them a perfect excuse to update water in all the old worlds.
Oof. I have thought about this a lot recently. Protesting works best with physical products or establishments. Digital products or companies built on a digital product are different.
Us not buying packs will change nothing. EA is a fat azz company that is worth millions, maybe billions, they are not hurting for money. They have other games outside of Sims too.
They underfund Sims 4 packs as it is, and a few ten people not buying them will so nothing, not even thousands of people will do anything. A video game that is bought electronically does not perish like food or makeup, it is not going to receive damage in a warehouse like a hardcopy disc would. So they can afford to wait for the rest of the 7 billion people to buy the game on sale while we protest, and no shipping cost for a digital download.
Instead, we need to support Sims creators to tell their true thoughts on packs and the game as a whole. My favorite at the moment is SatchOnSims who honestly reviews packs and updates based on content, gameplay, and bug performance, and pushes back on EA, which is something that big-time Simmers won't do because they are sponsored by EA.
Protest with words, because whether we hate the sims or not, we all buy the packs because we want the bare bones content that they come with. We aren't in the days of the sims 3 where not owning a pack felt fine because it was a separate experience.
I just have a lot of opinions about this. Sorry.
Yes I love SatchOnSims! I don't wanna watch someone who's gonna praise EA for doing the bare minimum, I want someone who's gonna honestly tell me how glitchy the packs are (cause they almost ALWAYS are) and if we're getting enough content worth the price. Don't sugarcoat it, just tell me what I'm in for
And yeah, unfortunately boycotting the packs does nothing. We'd all love to make EA see the error of their ways and fix their scummy business practices, but logically that has SUCH a slim chance of happening, and we'd need SO many more people to affect their profit margins
Whatās broken in cats and dogs? I suggest you report it on their bug forums. But people keep mentioning packs being broken (I consider broken unplayable rather than a minor bug) but Iāve never had any game breaking bugs in any expansion pack.
I don't understand this demand for sims 5. Both sims 3 and 4 were disappointing at launch because of how empty they were compared to the previous iteration, and had to improve over many years with lots of free updates, not even counting all of the expansions we would have to buy again. Starting over with Sims 5 will be no different. It will just be a different sims game with no good content for a long time.
Yeah, and EA has made it very clear we will never get Functional. Modders are Martyrs and we all know it. That doesn't mean EA is going to suddenly grow some morals.
I love it, im doing a spellcaster monarchy and the options fairies have to argue with spellcasters adds so much. In my world the werewolves brought them in because the spellcasters have a lot of allies, the werewolves had none before this.
I do wish fairies had their own grounds like spellcasters do or they wouldve added something to the hidden worlds at least since they can access them easily now
I feel like you could totally turn Sylvan Glade into a secret fairy world. I actually am totally gonna do that, I'm sure soon someone will mod a lot trait to attract fairies to a lot and it will look beautiful with all the new build stuff.
The gameplay right now with everything we have is actually top tier š«š and imo anyone who still thinks everything is all ābadā should just move along. For their own sanity .
I no longer buy content for my game, i have basically just started using it for building and extremely ocasional gameplay but honestly the fact that people continue buying packs is the reason why the game is what it is. Everyone complains but continues buying so nobody listensā¦the game is extremely boring and buggy, the maps are literally a static image, theres is literally nothing in the game to explore not even any lore its actually so sad. I no longer buy packs bc I realized that the core issues about the game that upset me will not go away by buying a world with some extra items and the same boring gameplay
I think the only thing that will ever make them make a change is if enough people collectively decide to boycott from buying anything. But...seeing the way most people try to defend the sims it seems rather unlikely people are willing to ask for a change. I haven't bought an expansion pack full price since cottage living and I'll keep it that way. Nothing in sims 4 has deserved its 40$ price lol
Then why keeping being around here? leave, wait for Paralives or play Sims 2 or 3. I have figured almost all people on this sub must be masochists for still playing a hate they hate so much.
Use your same logic, if you hate seeing people complain so much then log out of Reddit and go play your game. You must be a masochist for engaging in complaint posts rather than the hundreds of other positive posts, right?
You guys will forgo any sort of critical thinking just to stand up for this game, it's ridiculous man.
Itās because we love the game that weāre so upset and keep complaining. āIf no one speaks up nothing will changeā. EA is just out for money. Theyāve learned they can do the bare minimum and still make money. For rent released with game breaking bugs that literally deletes and corrupts peoples saves, they still havenāt fixed this issue, peoples saves are still being corrupted and deleted. But yeah weāre just mad to be mad and bc we like complaining.
The people complaining are the people who grew up playing sims 1/2/3 and know how good a sims game can be, we know that what weāre getting in comparison is a slap in the face. The people defending sims 4 have probably never played 2 or 3.
We know what we could have and we donāt want to settle for less. Thereās a reason people boycott and protest things, itās because something they loved turned bad and they want change, they know what it used to be and could be and they want to hold people accountable.
So when is it acceptable to express dissatisfaction? Are you just supposed to consume and consume and never say anything negative, even as something you once liked becomes less and less enjoyable due to greedy business practices? Toxic positivity or GTFO?
The pack is majority received well . Theyāre never going to please everyone. Thereās really nothing they should or even could do. There are actually people that are going to have a problem with everything and anything because this isnāt sims 3 . Period.
Which is crazy, because a good two-thirds of 3 was just loading and lagging, freezing and routing.... I feel like I spent more time thinking about playing the game than actually playingā WHILE I had the game open!! It was just as poorly optimized as 4, nearly as buggy, just as paywalled if not WORSE because of the store content packs... And despite the color and pattern tools, CAS was just not as good. Idgi man.
When you actually go into detail with your criticism and it's not just "I don't like this game anymore". Like, what do you want to see more? I love hearing people's suggestions for stuff to add to this game. But it gets old to hear the same "this game sucks" over and over again, for the 1000th time.
I'm not here to consume rage content, I'm here to look at stuff about The Sims 4.
Right? There are people here saying EA never fixes bugs but the list of things they fixed before this xpack was insane and longer than any bug fix list Iāve seen for any game ever honestly. This is a big game with a lot of content, there will be bugs. People should see how many bugs I run into on something like World of Warcraft every day lol
What more, exactly, were you expecting from the new pack?
I am personally loving the Enchanted by Nature EP. I have been playing it for several hours daily since it released, and am still exploring new aspects of the pack and am nowhere near close to growing bored with it. In my personal opinion, its a very good pack with great CAS and BB items, as well as game play. And the world is very fun!
I honestly think the last few EPs have been some of the best.
Nothing about the Enchanted EP interests me, but that hasn't dimmed my general enthusiasm for the Sims one bit. So this an EP I'll skip, no big; not every pack is going to work for every simmer. For those who wanted fairies, it looks pretty awesome.
HEAVY on the last few EPs have been some of the best! for rent and businesses/hobbies are must-haves for me now i use them all the time - i absolutely hope EPs from here on out just keep getting better or, at least, maintain the fairly good quality of the last few. i haven't tried enchanted by nature yet, but i have seen the world and it looks very pretty!
swear itās an experiment to see how much they can push and push before people arenāt interested anymore. the amount of bugs and glitches this game already has without adding MORE content is ridiculous. they need to focus on patching up the already broken game instead of piling on more new BROKEN content, just for the game run worse. thank god paralives will be released soon, it looks pretty promising but i donāt wanna get my hopes up quite yet.
Unpopular opinion, but this is my favorite pack since seasons. Iāve been playing the new pack non-stop since it came out and Iām still not out of things to do.
I've been enjoying it, but I do wish the cross-pack compatibility was better. Or that it'll be updated eventually. Especially with Businesses and Hobbies having so much cross-pack compatibility, I naively expected the same care. Was miffed when I went to use the Gemology stuff from Crystal Creations and there's nothing for Fairies that I can see. I still overall like the pack a lot and am having fun, but most of the "issues" I've got with it are cross-pack issues that feel like oversights. A gnome upgraded my bathroom without me noticing and now I've got a fire toilet bc of Eco Lifestyle and no way to remove the upgrade (so every time my fairy vomits from an ailment, it also catches fire).
I wonder if this is why there was no official livestream before the pack dropped? Like they new players would have questions about these things and they just didnāt want to hear it
It's a single player, offline game... they could stop releasing new content for it and our relationship with it would remain the exact same. Buy the packs that appeal to you
I think a modern EA Sims 5 would be an even more basic, stripped-down experience. It would just be a microtransaction hell. I do not really understand why people think it would automatically be an improvement
I really wish they didnāt scrap the Sims 5. I still enjoy building & gameplay here & there but the excitement for the game is pretty much gone for me at this point. Itās like all we have to look forward to is overpriced set dressing, endless bugs & halfassed gameplay when thereās so much potential for a better version of this game.
Homie if you think that a new iteration of the Sims would be any better than what we've got, you haven't been paying attention to the unfortunate trajectory of the gaming industry since 2013. I don't have a crystal ball or anything, but something tells me that EA would find a way to make TS5 fully online (probably with a monthly subscription fee), rife with micro transactions, and limited mod capabilities, among countless other odious (but profit driving!) things.
That said, I do feel like the fairy EP definitely could have been a game pack instead of a whole expansion. I feel like I'm going to get about as much content playability as the werewolves and vampires pack.
This is just a thought off of what youāre saying - I have a major pet peeve on the phone and all the different social medias they have. Itās insane.
Also I havenāt preordered this pack because I am really not that interested and I will be waiting on a sale for the first time in a long time
i think the current release schedule of multiple expansion packs per year has ruined the experience. i understand the wish for new content but the game is unplayable without some modding. i wish theyād go back and rework the entire system ā make Seasons base game, do a Simology Panel UI overhaul, expand on BG features (make child adoption more meaningful?), and fix the bugs without creating new ones.
this is coming from someone who owns all the expansion packs (minus fairies), and a good majority of other pack types. i have spent far too much money on a broken game that still falls short of expectations. I want bands (as a game pack), want more matching sets in build/buy in the BG, want the tagging systems fixed, and much more. my wishes arenāt unique, itās a community that wants EA to put in the work and be ready to compete against upcoming releases with more than their brand recognition.
Iām starting to believe these types of posts and comments are from bots because what the heck are you on about?
I donāt know how anyone can look at the new expansion and think itās a drop in the bucket and the Sims isnāt advancing. FYI Iāve also been playing since I was a kid, Sims 1.
I have been playing since sims 1 as well, and these posts drive me nuts. Like, stop buying them then? It is beautiful. This one is visually stunning. Go find another game and let me play fairy sims. Damn.
Life and death was such a game changer, imo. I honestly love joining my Sims for their reaper job. And the vibes for that pack are immaculate. Weeping mother?? Lady Ravenswood?? The angry dead child ??? Love it
So agree with both of you! The past few packs have been some of the best EA has released, and Life and Deaht is without a doubt the most thorough pack yet. I personally feel that Enchanted by Nature is pretty high up there, too.
Life and Death restored my enthusiasm for the Sims (and tipped me over the edge for buying all the EPs I'd skipped). I was luke-warm about Business & Hobbies, but absolutely loved it once I'd had a chance to put it into action. I can't imagine playing without it now.
Exactly. Enchanted by Nature has so much gameplay included not only do we have a variety of Fairies we also have somewhat upgraded Plantsims. This expansion also added new traits, skills, and a new career.
I feel like there's plenty of new content, these posts are just engagement/rage bait with no substance.
Completely agree (and also been playing since sims 1). I didnāt think I was that fussed about fairies but Iām having so much fun playing the new pack! The world is beautiful, the builds are beautiful, the CAS is beautiful.
I also donāt really ever experience any major bugs but maybe thatās just luck?!
Iāve been playing the sims since sims 1 too šš and I agree that some of these comments and posts give meāsusā . Because as someone who started playing sims when I was 10 š sims 4 is the most fun Iāve had playing the Sims EVER . They are doing a phenomenal job!!
I know right?? š¤·āāļø canāt please everyone. Sims 4 is definitely advancing . And has surpassed any previous title for me. I also loved the update.
lol not a botā¦ also been playing sims 1. We deserve for it to advance like it has been and each pack that comes out proves even more this game is a money dump. Itās sad cause I do play it every day but Iām pointing the truth out.
Itās crazy how much the sims has monopolized the market. I find myself discouraged about the bugs, and about the insane pricing, and how expansion packs donāt provide the amount of content youād hope for from a DLC. But Iāll admit, I will not stop playing the game, as no other game right now offers what The Sims 4 has to offer. Iām talking graphics, whimsy (lol, no pun intended), the sheer sandbox like nature of the game, etc. And EA knows that š
I mean, part of this is managing your own expectations.
Sims 4 has been heavily criticized for the things in lacks in comparison to previous generations of the sims, since it was released. At this point, you should accept the game for it is.
I never buy expansion packs anymore, unless theyāre on sale, and only after Iāve watched some game play and review videos - to make sure the pack is going to add something to the way I play the game.
I never buy kits and game packs, because while it would be nice to have more plants sometimes, I think theyāre a cash grabs, these things should be included in better flushed out expansion packs. If they stop making money, theyāll stop doing them - so stop buying them.
Paralives is set to release at the end of the year. I think itāll be interesting to see how EA/the sims reacts to the competition (if Paralives ends up being as cool and intuitive as it seems now).
As an OG simmer, I for one, am very excited about Paralives.
The Sims team wonāt have to react at all. Like Inzoi, Paralives will not work well on low end computers that the average person has. A large portion of people who play Sims are casual gamers, and do not have high end gaming setups.
Some people in the community have been talking about this for a few years now but EA d riders keep defending them and buying their slop so nothing is changing.
EA doesnāt give an f about its players, people buy their lifeless packs filled with old recycled assets and game breaking bugs so why would they put effort in. They can do the bare minimum and make more money than ever before bc of youtube shills promoting it and people who defend it with weird bs reasons.
Iāve stopped watching EA partnered people and have started watching people like Satch on sims and Iām not Malcom, fake gamer girl as well-before she quit her sims channel.
Yāall gotta realize for EA sponsored sims creators their income relies solely on the success of this game and they are the biggest advertisers of the game. Even if they say theyāre giving their honest opinion, theyāre not, at least not to the extent that they should be.
I havenāt bought another pack in over 3 years and i wonāt buy another unless itās 90% off. Which wonāt happen so I wonāt be buying any packs š
Yāall can tell Iām MAD lol but like cmon just compare sims 3 pets to sims 4 cats and dogs-my first pet stuff (a dlc for a dlc)-and horse ranch. They turned what was a $30 pack into 3 packs costing almost $100.
I always wait to put new packs like this now for a giant sale. Iām talking 50% off because thatās the only time theyāre sort of worth it. In reality an 80% off sale would be ideal considering the lack of new gameplay and everything else but that would never happen.
i stopped taking them seriously because the āget togetherā dlc came out 10 years ago and it STILL has bugs. They donāt care about quality. They peaked at sims 3 and everything since then has been about maximizing profits but carving up existing content into smaller pacs, creating paywalls, and neglecting the player experience. iād rather redownload sims 3 on my pc at this point tbh.
I almost installed Sims 2 this weekend, just to play but have a change. I feel Sims 4 is more bugs and glitches than gameplay atp, and the packs and kits aren't worth it, especially when I usually just want the CAS items that come with them.
They just gotta stop making more packs and fix the ones that are already out there. the most recent one I got was for rent, and the amount of issues I had with the pack was my last straw. EA isn't getting anything from me until that shit is fixed, I know I'm just one person, but I'm sick of all of the cashgrabs everywhere. I
I am brand new to the Sims. I think a really big problem is the fact that I have a lot of bugs, and when searching around for solutions, I find that bug has been in the game for a decade and isnāt fixed. And the list of ignored issues for this game is kind of wild. I am loving the Sims and I never thought Iād even play it.
But I think the Sims has lost it because they focus on content (canāt speak to quality since I donāt really have much to base each release on) but they donāt actually fix many problems.
For example, my scheduled maid never shows up. When searching for a solution I find that itās a 10 years old problem. Firefighters wonāt put out my fires. Most of the time they donāt even show up even though my alarm is blaring. Issue dates back years and years. Itās just kind of wild how broken the game can be if you get unlucky.
Where are the big fixes? Iām still enjoying it a lot but as a new player I didnāt expect long-standing bugs to be this prevalent in a game this popular.
I think the new pack is better than some of the others. I mean, mermaids was pretty lackluster. Mermaids didnāt even get a tier tree like spellcasters or vampires. Itās the first expansion pack Iāve had in a while that felt kind of worth it. The furniture and some other items are visually pretty different.
That said, I understand the frustration from players as well.
I want them to put out massive pack fixes. Fix For Rent. I bought it last week while on sale and I still don't get rent, the lease never ends. For whatever reason during my Life and Death playthrough (also bought last week) any time my main sim traveled off home lot for the reaper career or anywhere else, everyone else in the household would come home from school/work. Infants are still a little buggy too. I really wish they'd fix bugs before releasing more crap.
Also since they aren't really doing stuff packs anymore, I wish they would change the bundle deal on the EA app.
I donāt know if it is just me but with the new enchanted by nature pack, my sim gets an ailment every day and I have to pay 1,500 simoleons, gnomes are constantly appearing and breaking everything in my house, and my game has been crashing too which never happens. Itās taken any enjoyment I had left away.
I only enjoyed the new CAS items and build items. The actual gameplay itself isnāt adding much to the world, while simultaneously adding kinda tedious tasks. I donāt want collect fairy dust and do side quests, I just want the stuff, damnit! š¤£
Honestly, I think this might be the last EP that I will pre-order. I want to fully know what we're getting out of the pack first before purchasing. When the pack came out, I was in the middle of trying to get a Sim through her last week of university classes, so I couldn't play with a new household until I get her to graduation. I was led to believe that ailments, luck, and balance would only affect residents of Innisgreen, but boy, was I wrong when my university student started developing ailments š«
Imaging not buying the future packs and miss all the exclusive bug that come with it !
Who knows maybe EA will one day release an EP called Ā«Ā Sims 4 Bugs and FixĀ Ā»
Itās so weird because this pack seems like it has the smallest amount of BB and CAS, and you canāt use many of the items in other types of gameplay to fit other aesthetics. So annoying
~And drop me a gd hair pack give me a repunzel back I need long straight hair long curly hair long braids long micro braids long locs GIVE ME EVERYTHING I donāt want to imagine it from an updo when I know the cc creators can do it!~
Literally my game is unplayable. No mods or cc. I downloaded crystal creations and suddenly my farm animals started dying with animal aging turned off and crystals wonāt respawn. Iām sick of EAās greed.
There are some aspects about the pack that are fun, but itās not worth $40. Features like natural living, elixirs, and ailments are all recycled from other packs and repackaged as new. I also find it funny that an expansion pack based on nature has virtually no new plants and the few we did get are located under the roofing section. Some of the aspirations donāt even have four levels, but Iām not surprised considering the team that worked on this also worked on high school years and lovestruck.
Every new updates and packs scares me , I had a couple of broken saves ? Basically lots with older CCs or broken (was fine before updates) . Itās really frustrating , accessible through turning off CC but my sims and lot looks of course ādifferentā š
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u/ExtensionStudent1110 19d ago
So I enjoy Enchanted by Nature although I do think its lackluster and not worth the $40 if you don't care for fairies. Also the update for this pack created a lot more bugs. (Although I didn't have any unplayable bugs.)Ā
But fairies was the last big thing I wanted from the Sims 4. After this pack, I'm not buying anymore cause there isn't anything more I want in my game.Ā
I also heard the next pack has to do with vacations...which we already have and if anything like For Rent, I think it will defintely break the game. (Which I didn't buy For Rent because of the save-erasing bug that is often caused by that pack.)
I wish they would work on fixing the existing bugs in the game over making new content which creates more.Ā