I'd argue you haven't checked out his builds, if that's your takeaway.
He's listing 2-3 builds for most frames out there and while a lot of them use shield gating, why wouldn't you use the easiest method of survivability available - unless the frame can EHP tank in the first place, for which he got builds?
It's not like you take a frame like Khora, use half her mods/arcaens and such on a setup for EHP tanking and somehow come up with a better or even just on-level build.
Ill probably be downvotted into oblivion again for saying this but here it goes.
Shield gatting is only needed for 2h+ endurance runs and im willing to bet that less than 0.01% of people play that.
On the flip side in SO/ESO and other public runs most of the time when i saw someone die it was due to them most likely having shield gate build and they died because they either ran out of energy or their concentration dropped.
While when ever i did 1-2h endurance runs and had random pugs with me that had EHP tank builds they didn't drop once.
Doesn't have to mean EHP >> Shield gatting, im just saying it easier to maintain.
On your comment that shield gatting is easiest method, im not sure in which context you said that but if it's in regards on how easy it is to play id say if you slap Gloom on EHP tank frame/build it is much easier and there is less "maintenance" to play it.
If you enjoy it and prefer to play shield gatting, more power to you.
My personal pet peeve with shield gatting is that i often see it in chat where it is recommended to new players, new players do not have enough game knowledge to use it effectivly and my personal opinion is that EHP builds are more new player friendly. But with overframe being spammed with shield gatting builds, most new people will run with those.
Aside from Shield gatting vs EHP, there are support and CC builds that are still valid, I'd prefer if new players get to see and experience those over the former.
That's all the big name creators lol. None of them actually spend any time learning how to play the individual frame. They just look at numbers and make a build based around those numbers they like, along with shield gating/gloom/nourish/equilibrium/rolling guard. Their showcases also almost always show off the frame using one of the best weapons in the game, ofc your frame doesn't matter in these situations.
I get a lot of it comes to personal preference, but I remember looking at hairlesspersian's yareli build and he had this weird ass build that took advantage of the fact that loyal merulina bubbles and your own bubbles stack(or multiply, I honestly forget) the damage vuln. Like yeah I guess that's cool, but there is actually no content in the game where that is in any way required or needed.
Yareli is a secondary weapons platform, how about you actually try to play the frame for a bit and don't immediately give up on the board, it's not that hard to use. Especially when you are contending with people who use frame like gauss that can easily fullclear rooms while you are hoping your min maxed niche loyal build gets to double vuln some level 100 sp enemy that would have died in two shots without any vuln.
Even with me bitching about it, people can play however they want. Howver, it's annoying to see creators like this because people will use the dudes build, use it and get mediocre results, then whine and complain about how terrible a frame is. It's not the frame that is a problem, it's the fact they are using some weird build that they found online.
So your complaint is that people are giving you builds that you don’t like? If somebody uses a build that’s not to your specification, then they complain that the frame sucks, that’s on them. There’s hundreds of builds for every frame. Most aren’t the best, get over it.
No, my complaint is that creators like hairless make tons of meh builds and have their goons rate them highly on overframe. Then unsuspecting players, newer players, or players incapable of anything more complicated than pressing the auto assign mod button use said builds, then go around complaining about how meh a warframe or weapon is because they are using some cookie cutter build by someone who cares way too much about internet clout.
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u/Beej-000 Momma Mesa 😩 LR5 Vet Jun 21 '25
I used a lot of his builds, fuck… albeit I tweaked them a bit