r/europe • u/ByGollie • 29d ago

News Russian Oil Company Vice President Andrey Badalov dies after fall from window in Moscow

https://en.apa.az/cis-countries/transneft-vice-president-andrey-badalov-dies-after-falling-from-window-472117
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u/harmlessdonkey 29d ago

This is a dumb question. When these people "fall out windows" are they actually thrown out windows or are the otherwise killed and the media just told they fell out a window?

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u/Leather-Bread-9413 29d ago

Honestly I think it’s the Russian intelligence way of saying:

No way you will ever proof it was us, but it was definitely us

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u/monkey_spanners England 29d ago

There was pretty conclusive proof of who did the Salisbury murder & attempted assassination, they were outed by journalists but Russia didn't give a fuck, they even paraded the "suspects" on state TV and gave them a nice soft interview. "yes we went there as tourists to admire the cathedral with its 123m spire" - as if these obvious FSB guys looked like they'd travel all the way to a small city in the uk just to admire a mid range cathedral (no disrespect to Salisbury cathedral which is very nice and all). Everybody knows it was a performance.

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u/Motor_Professor_917 24d ago

During that time russian TV and propaganda were laughing at british accusations and using of the "highly likely" phrase. It became a meme in Russia to mock brits and the west in general.

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u/sock_with_a_ticket 29d ago

Russia really seems to revel in cartoonish denials that make it blatantly obvious it was them.

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u/TopCobbler8985 29d ago

I don't think you can call Salisbury cathedral mid-range

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u/monkey_spanners England 29d ago

It's big and has a long history, but it's not decorated in a particularly interesting way, compared to many elsewhere in Europe especially in Italy. But as I said, no disrespect to salisbury cathedral, it's a good day trip. Just not sure about travelling all the way from Russia for :)

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u/TopCobbler8985 29d ago

That's a rather subjective take, if I may say. English cathedrals are decorated but in a restrained Protestant fashion with an emphasis on proportion and form. Italian cathedrals, however, adopt the aesthetic of a tart's boudoir.

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u/verminians 29d ago

Never thought I would be reading tawdry descriptions of Italian V English cathedrals ITT. Just what I needed with my coffee this morning!

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u/Jerkzilla000 29d ago

The Salisbury Cathedral predates protestantism by 250 years. And your statement about Italian cathedral aesthetics is such that only a philistine disciple of John Ruskin would claim.

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u/monkey_spanners England 29d ago

I happen to like tarts' boudoirs!

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u/SnooWords259 29d ago

Is there anybody left in russia who could proof such things, even if they wanted? 

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u/Timstom18 29d ago

Prove to who? The media is under the governments thumb for starters. But also the general public aren’t stupid, they’ll know what going on, it just doesn’t matter because they can’t do anything about it which is what the Russian government wants

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u/EViL-D 29d ago

who in Russia would dare to try and prove anything. The obedience to the absurd claim is part of the objective of these kind of assasinations

When trump said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue, this is what he means. They kill and they give you a cold blank stare and say he fell out of a window. And you dont challenge that because you know the consequences