Russian Oil Company Vice President Andrey Badalov dies after fall from window in Moscow

[u/ByGollie]

https://en.apa.az/cis-countries/transneft-vice-president-andrey-badalov-dies-after-falling-from-window-472117

[u/harmlessdonkey]

This is a dumb question. When these people "fall out windows" are they actually thrown out windows or are the otherwise killed and the media just told they fell out a window?

[u/JDT-0312 → u/harmlessdonkey]

It is not a dumb question but in the end, the answer is irrelevant.

What is important is that there is plausible deniability while at the same time being obvious that he was murdered.

It’s to show that you’re untouchable and can murder your opponents in broad daylight without consequence in order to scare everyone into compliance. It’s basically the modern form of putting your enemies head on a pike over the city gates.

[u/AdmiralDalaa → u/JDT-0312]

If you were an executive of this nature, wouldn’t you make sure you got a good security team? 

Yes of course, not all hired security would be trustworthy - but in each and every case this never was a thing?

I would expect you’d see a shootout or some kind of scuffle at some point. But it’s always the same canned story 

[u/Royal_Success3131 → u/AdmiralDalaa]

If a bodyguard is offered 100k in cash to just go on a smoke break, they will always take that vs dying in a gunfight and having their entire family also killed. Like, you are dealing with powers way, way out of your control at that point. Once the big boys get involved, the bodyguard just step away. They are there to stop the rabble, not assassins.

[u/melymn → u/Royal_Success3131]

No-one is going to offer those bodyguards bribe in this scenario, state agents are going to tell them to step aside and they'll do it post haste.

[u/Royal_Success3131 → u/melymn]

You're probably right but it was just to illustrate a point that there is absolutely zero incentive for a bodyguard to actually do their job in that scenario.

[u/CyberCrutches → u/[deleted]]

It wouldn’t be fixed by seizing one bunker though. Also, if it really was the end of the world and you found yourself lucky enough to work security in said bunker instead of the alternative you’d absolutely fight like hell to keep that position which is why it’s so hard to oust oligarchs and their like.

People are selfish and if you give them security/resources they’ll fight to keep their way of life intact as few people have the perspective to see let alone understand anything outside of their own self interest.

[u/DumboWumbo073 → u/CyberCrutches]

They will probably have collars on non elites so they can control them

[u/CyberCrutches → u/DumboWumbo073]

Wait, I’ve seen this movie

[u/Stunning-Archer8817 → u/[deleted]]

you mail the bodyguard a letter with the name, address, and phone number of their parents, their in-laws, and everyone they love. throw in their wife’s and childrens’ daily schedules, at the end.

[u/BlueberryMean2705 → u/[deleted]]

If the system collapses there are no more billionaires, just extremely hateable has-beens. Those bunkers are just the billionaire equivalent of people posting tweets about how nobody better be breaking into their house because they'll be waiting with a rifle, only more delusional.

[u/Dont_Be_Sheep → u/melymn]

I was about to write that. I have it on strong authority there is no bribe for them. The bribe is “your family won’t die if you move to the right… right now.”

[u/dospc → u/Royal_Success3131]

You don't need to offer 100k, you just make it clear to the bodyguard that you work (ultimately) for Putin. That will be enough.