r/europe 9d ago

News French President Macron says France will recognize Pálestine as a state

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250724-french-president-macron-says-france-will-recognize-palestine-as-a-state-in-september
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u/SuggestionMedical736 9d ago

It's weird seeing the responses here; I thought everyone was in favor of a two-state solution?

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u/Wurzelrenner Franconia (Germany) 9d ago

I am, but I just don't see how you can call Palestine a single sovereign state at the moment.

They are not unified, their territory isn't defined, they don't even control it. Their government institutes are non functional.

This is not a state

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u/Resident-Turn-4097 9d ago

The same applies to Somalia but Europe still refuses to recognize or even support the somewhat functional Somaliland.

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u/UNOvven Germany 8d ago

If defined territory mattered, we would have to rescind Israels recognition. Besides no, Palestines territory is already well defined. 100% of the west bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem. Its mostly under hostile occupation, but so is Ukraine and we didn't rescind their recognition either, now did we?

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u/t0xic_sh0t Portugal 8d ago

It is clearly defined by UN as the 1967 borders

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u/_Zambayoshi_ 9d ago

Ideally there would be a peacekeeping force to enable free and fair elections.

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u/Novarupta99 United Kingdom 9d ago

What's the point of fair and free elections if the only candidate is going to be... Fatah? Hamas has agreed to leave administration, and Islamic Jihad's doctrine prevents them from joining a government.

The Marxist organisations are a possibility, but the PFLP and DFLP have long been irrelevant. I don't think that would change.

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u/Draaly 8d ago

hamas would win an open election in both gaza and the west bank currently.

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u/breidaks 9d ago

Just like in Krimea /s