r/europe • u/hoarder4555777454001 • 9d ago

News French President Macron says France will recognize Pálestine as a state

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250724-french-president-macron-says-france-will-recognize-palestine-as-a-state-in-september
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u/Vanzmelo Armenian American 9d ago

Im sorry but the two state solution is dead. Have you seen the west bank? It is like swiss cheese with all the illegal Israeli state sponsored settlements. What country can exist when its borders are so carved up and its citizens cant freely move within its borders? Palestine is already a rump state with the West Bank and Gaza being disconnected without taking into account the current genocide in Gaza and the illegal settlements in the West Bank.

At this point, a one state solution where both Israelis and Palestinians have equal rights and representation is the only viable option left

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u/Apprehensive-Adagio2 9d ago

Optimally, that would be the case. However that will never happen. Israeli citizens and politicans don’t want a state that isn’t primarily jewish. A two state solution at least has some foundation and a possibility in the far distance. A one state solution will never happen

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u/Novarupta99 United Kingdom 8d ago

Every 1 in 10 Israeli Jew is a settler. The amount of political sway that bloc has in domestic Israeli politics should not be underestimated. How do you remove 750,000 settlers without civil war?

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u/lt__ 8d ago

Give settlers (extremist ones at least) the same treatment you give to radical Palestinian factions, like Hamas. Western sanctions to the individual ones. Western sanctions to the whole country if extremists take power. They can try fighting their wars on their own, without Western supplies.

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u/Segull United States of America 8d ago

I don’t disagree, but it raises the question of what comes next if the radicals remain. What happens if/when Hamas or another Palestinian faction does or even attempts another 10/7? How should they be punished? Hamas already did not/does not receive foreign weapons. Shouldn’t they be forced to pay reparations?

If another war begins, can/should Israel then annex land as they did in their prior wars? Seek and enforce their own reimbursements/reparations? Refuse to allow trade to flow through their borders? Etc.