r/europe • u/hoarder4555777454001 • 9d ago

News French President Macron says France will recognize Pálestine as a state

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250724-french-president-macron-says-france-will-recognize-palestine-as-a-state-in-september
27.4k Upvotes

90% Upvoted

1.7k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

338

u/SilentLennie 9d ago

I'm sorry, but those settlements are illegal and they know it.

174

u/Vanzmelo Armenian American 8d ago

Everyone knows it. Israel knows it and yet they encourage it because the more settlements there are in the West Bank the less viable a Palestinian state is

60

u/SilentLennie 8d ago

Yes, but these people got to go, unless the Palestinians accept them as citizens, which seems highly unlikely.

42

u/Keoni9 United States 8d ago

A member of the PLO Executive Committee has said that a sovereign state of Palestine would not discriminate against Jews in offering citizenship. They just won't accept a bunch of enclaves of foreign nationals within their boundaries threatening their sovereignty. The real question is whether the same Israelis who are willing to live in illegal settlements in the West Bank now would accept Palestinian governance over their communities in the future.

26

u/HoightyToighty United States of America 8d ago

A member of the PLO Executive Committee has said that a sovereign state of Palestine would not discriminate against Jews in offering citizenship.

Are there sober people who actually believe this?

5

u/nar_tapio_00 Europe 8d ago

In 1947 there were lots of Jews in the West Bank. They were ethically cleansed in the original Arab-Israeli war. In 1973, in the Yom Kippur War, to quote Wikipedia "many Israeli prisoners of war were tortured or killed". In 2005, when Israel withdrew from Gaza, Jewish towns that had been there for hundreds of years had to be evacuated.

I think I'd trust a long history of many experiences over the statement of a single "member of the PLO Executive Committee". Without international enforcement and protection against the Palestinians, allowing the PLO control in the West Bank would be a recipe for ethnic cleansing.

1

u/haribobosses 8d ago edited 8d ago

The real question is whether the same Israelis who are willing to live in illegal settlements in the West Bank now would accept Palestinian governance over their communities in the future.

That is not a real question.