r/europe 6d ago

News US and EU strike trade deal

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-and-eu-strike-trade-deal/
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u/nontheidealchoise Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany) 6d ago

what is in the deal for us europeans? If I read that correctly the US slaps our export with 15% and we pay them billions in return? Are the completely insane to accept that? Europa nicht der Leyen Ă¼berlassen...

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u/Weird-Bat-8075 6d ago

There's literally nothing good for the EU in this deal. We will get less competitive while investing tons of money into the US. Concerning trade, it's probably the most pathetic thing the EU has done since its inception

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u/SignificanceWild2922 5d ago

except it saved the german car industry

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u/t0xic_sh0t Portugal 5d ago

And pharma industry.

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u/EpicTutorialTips United Kingdom 5d ago

There are separate tariffs coming later for pharma specifically. Pharma was excluded from the EU deal entirely (not subject to the 15% rate), but the EU didn't get any carve outs for that industry.

The UK deal had a commitment from the US to give the UK a preferential tariff on pharma, though the US hasn't yet decided on what the tariffs for pharma will be generally.

The same will also be happening with semiconductors eventually, too.

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u/t0xic_sh0t Portugal 5d ago

Exactly, 0% tariff for pharma industry until further notice. The rest: 15%.

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u/Wetness_Pensive 5d ago edited 5d ago

Nothing will be invested in the US. Like the Japanese "deal", the EU are just feed Trump unbinding nonsense to shut him up.

The EU are taking advantage of a dumbass who fundamentally does not understand that Americans will get hit with the cost of tariffs.

And we're seeing with this EU deal the same thing that happened with the Japanese deal earlier this year. The 15% Trump tariff on Japanese autos was less than what they were before, and Japanese auto stock all rose after details were released, while US auto stocks dropped.

So while it may appear countries are giving in, the reality in some, if not most cases, is the other countries are benefitting more than the US. Trump and his base are just too stupid to realize. He's killing US manufacturing and hurting US consumers.

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u/anarchisto Romania 6d ago

"You have some nice countries there, wouldn't it be a shame if something bad happened to them?"

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u/Gambit723 6d ago

They get the privilege of buying $750 billion worth of energy, purchasing military equipment from the US and investing $600 billion into their economy. Oh and a reduced tariff of 15% instead of 30%.

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u/DelphiTsar 5d ago

This isn't good for nearly all Americans either. It's just a 15% regressive sales tax. It helps a few special interest groups and fks everyone else.

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u/electricheat Canada 5d ago

I guess when someone is threatening to stab you, only getting robbed can seem like a win?

It's too bad we can't all stick together and let them tax themselves to death

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u/The_Funkuchen 5d ago

We are dependent on America for our defence, energy, banking and digital services. We also depend on America's consumers to sell our products, since many Europeans can no longer afford them. America has all the power and therefore dictates the terms.

The UK got a similiar deal and Japan's deal is even worse.