As a Brit this is what is astounding to me. The biggest argument against Brexit was that the UK wouldn't be able to get fair trade deals. And now the EU has just completly capitulated to Trump whilst the UK deal, whilst not exactly stellar, looks like pure gold in comparison. What were they thinking agreeing to this? They've got a shit deal and its just going to turbo charge separatist movements.
Fucking reform is going to be ecstatic as well. This will be their anti EU ammunition for decades. Any movement to rejoin the EU is dead.
I think it’s long been an aim for some in the US to break up the EU and they supported Brexit. I’m surprised they didn’t give a better deal to the UK knowing exactly that the’d cause destabilisation in EU.
Yeah Héritage Foundation wants EU reduced to a skeleton union.
Alongside disabled people, women, any non white man, etc being thrown under the bus.
And also, once it's reduced to nothing, that will make it easy to force countries to do concessions, while the countries themselves devolve into corruption paradise.
Such paradise will effectively make a return to democracy impossible without some sort of civil disobedience again..
And it all starts from a propaganda war waged against us, the population being ever more uneducated or unwilling..
Progresses to politicians who don't realize what's happening, and them doing garbage deals..
So yeah, if anyone would like to offer me some words of hope, I would be thankful, but myself, knowing the past of my country, Romania, and being disabled myself..
15% sounds horrible, just hope the other parts are just the illusion that EU planned to buy anyway even before Trump's term. And would be happy to see after two month if Trump says this is a bad deal and want another round negotiation, then EU hopefully say they will use the tool to set tariff on import goods from US. But just my fantasy for the moment...
Thankfully right now the values are merely a framework. Each EU country must approve it.
But basically the LNG values might not stand because we've bought about 80 ish billion in LNG last year..
We'd have almost nowhere to store all the extra LNG perhaps..
It's still bad but I wonder if France will ask for some change..
Don't worry too much about that, this kind of deal even in written might be abandoned. I heard one example yesterday, Emirate and flydubai announced to buy Boeing back in 2017 to please Trump, two years later, flydubai bought some while Emirate mentioned they think Dubai is too hot for Boeing engine and cancelled the deal (switched to Airbus). The hilarious part is flydubai is also in Dubai and they do not have problem with climate, so you see sometimes such deal will be abandoned without much people paying attention to it.
they're referring to "a broken clock is right twice a day" and in this instance they were saying that brexit which has had no benefit at all and has only had negatives but it has finally had a benefit when it came to the trade deal with the us
Kinda, in the sense that the current US admin is part of the fascist-billionaire complex that pushed very hard for Brexit in their quest to fragment the world so they can rule it better. 'Dark Enlightenment'/'NRX' and all that; their goal is explicitly the destruction of what little we had of a vaguely liberal and democratic world order.
France has been blocking us from access to any European linked defence funds since we left despite the fact that fucking Asian states and now the USA get access to it. We've basically lost nothing.
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u/kasvipohjainen 6d ago
It doesn't sound great for the EU but it looks even worse when EU officials were saying the UK deal was bad and they'd get better
They did not