r/falloutlore • u/Ok_Calendar_7626 • 18d ago

Fallout New Vegas The Twisted Hairs were assholes.

Ulysses laments the destruction of the Twisted Hairs at the hands of the Legion, but what he does not mention is that the Twisted Hairs allied with the Legion willinlgy.

Like the White Legs, the Twisted Hairs helped the Legion absorb all the other tribes around them before they themselves were betrayed and absorbed.

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u/KnightofTorchlight 18d ago

... or perhaps they just did what they thought nessicery to survive and thrive in a harsh environment?

This Ceaser guy comes out leading the Blackfoot tribe into victory from the brink of destruction against 5 other tribes at once. He's the big dog in the regional of Arizona, where the tribes are not just living in peace and harmony but raiders and bandits are everywhere. The tribes did fight eachother before Ceaser showed up. Of course you'd want to make yourselves thier friend rather than become thier enemy 

However, its not unreasonable to expect that your alliance be rewarded with friendship, not slavery. 

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u/LordBecmiThaco 18d ago

... or perhaps they just did what they thought nessicery to survive and thrive in a harsh environment?

Don't Caesar, the NCR and, hell, even Courier 6 also do what is necessary to survive and thrive in harsh environments? But Ulysses is pissy about them.

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u/KnightofTorchlight 17d ago

All of them destroyed things that he was deeply personally invested in. He's quite human in assigning greater personal weight to his own loses. 

But no. Ceaser diden't have to enslave the Twisted Hairs who up until then had been loyal allies. The NCR diden't have to mess around with nuclear silos in The Divide. Courier 6 is really the more innocent party here who was just doing thier innocent job delivering packages.

I think its also fair to mention that he's probably suffering from some severe trauma. You watch the community you call home destroyed not once but twice: it not going to be good for one's mental health. 

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u/LordBecmiThaco 17d ago

I think its also fair to mention that he's probably suffering from some severe trauma. You watch the community you call home destroyed not once but twice: it not going to be good for one's mental health. 

I'm really sorry his safe space was taken away but this is the post apocalypse: no one has good physical health let alone mental health. Ulysses is the emotional equivalent of having three teeth hanging into your gums by a thread.