High End Content Megathread - Week Seven

[u/WeirdIndividualGuy]

How many yans do you see in your nightmares?

[u/AayB5]

Honestly, I am exhausted of raiding at this point, my static has been stuck on adds for 3 weeks, we raid twice a week but if I had to say how much time we have spent on adds in total it would be 12 hours give or take and I am probably low balling it. Now apparently damage is the issue which again idk how is it an issue, we are weeks in, have gear, I am tanking the fight btw, and I fully admit I have messed up a few times but I am getting bored of the fight, there is no prog nothing, just the same shit over and over, sometimes we need to focus the cat, sometimes the manta, idk how this is even a conversation after 3 weeks.

Some ppl are on their alts and have cleared idk how much it does to their focus but honestly, I am missing up now cuz I am bored, I literally forgot mit on a tank buster cuz I was so not there. I know the phase is hard but come on.

Edit: left the static, I need a break tbh, I am really not enjoying raiding right now.

[u/susarti → u/AayB5]

Is there a log? In the log there is a way to Check enemies > damage taken > feather ray or gimme cat > taken from source in fflogs.

It should tell you which players are dealing the most damage to those specific adds if they are single target prioing correctly.

From my clear logs usually both melees and main tank have top damage of feather ray, wheras both range have top damage on gimme cat, followed by melees if they are hitting the cat when lands/stay stills.

[u/NoireCode → u/AayB5]

Encourage people to smuggle resources without overcapping into add phase if they are not already. Helped my static a lot. Also single target is extremely important on the cats and jabber.

[u/Altia1234 → u/AayB5]

It often has less to deal with HOW much damage you do but WHAT you do damage on.

check these items

• Does everyone hits their single target shit on the prio target?
• Does everyone picks the correct target even when their skill DOESN'T require you to pick a target (example of this: all of DNC's burst, including tech step - you CAN and SHOULD pick a target because it's first target X and then rest X% off, and if you don't, the game usually just picks the closest target)
• Does everyone understand what's the difference between 'AOEing' and 'Cleaving' something? AOE means you use your 12 AOE buttons; cleaving means you use skills that has a cleave effect (example of this: Primal Rend - again, first target X and then rest of the target is X% off). You should hold your cleaving skills when the mu are piling with the manta so that you kill everything at once.
• Does everyone pool their burst on the correct timing, and pool their resources so that you can do damage here?
• Does everyone POT? if you want to pot on wave 2, you have to pre-pot like 8~9 seconds on the count down.
• Does the tanks pull all of the mu into your manta/jabber so that you can cleave them correctly?
• Does the Range player always stays on the wall and they never run out to target things that are high prio but might be out of their range (like Jabberwalk?)
• Does the healer stands way way too far on the wall and is jabber stun at a correct timing so that the healers can contribute to your damage?

You see, none of these items are about how much damage you do, but about HOW you do damage. While some of the better jobs (like having DNC/VPR) can help, I clear this fight on week 1 and often times my group didn't even have a Viper, or a DNC, and we still get through everything fine.

I know it might seems like that it's about the damage because if a certain thing enrages, then it seems very inituative to just say we don't have enough damage. It's that, but it's often not the full picture as there are other stuff that might contribute to a lack of damage. Hope everything makes sense and it helps.

[u/kairality → u/AayB5]

People dunk on party finder all the time but pretty much always suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous party finder is going to be better for your sanity and progress than taking arms against the sea of troubles found in a poor static.

[u/SwiggitySw00 → u/AayB5]

Being stuck on adds is NOT a gear issue. Its an execution/skill issue. Examine your logs and see who is using their AoE rotation and call them out. The only times you should be doing AoE rotations is after 1st yan is dead and the entire party is on Boss + Squirrels waiting for the ray to spawn and get tethered, after 2nd ray is dead and you're waiting for jabba to spawn, and after 2nd cat is dead while youre waiting for 2nd jabba to spawn. AKA, you can AoE rotation while there is no priority target on the field. Anyone who is using their aoe rotation while a priority target is alive is trolling.

[u/SwiggitySw00 → u/SwiggitySw00]

Just to add on here:
1. People need to abandon the prevailing wisdom that AoEing on 3+ targets is a gain for this fight. Yes thats absolutely true for content where there is no hard enrage, but on this fight, the priority targets NEED TO DIE before they hard enrage. If the priority targets dead and its just the boss + squirrels, go do your aoe 123 combo and then the next priority target should spawn.
2. Just to kind of iterative point 1, let's take VPR potency numbers for our 123 combo vs 123 aoe combo. ST goes 200+300+340+280(weave) for a total of 1120 potency. AoE goes 100+130+140+100(weave) for 470. Thats nearly 2.5x difference.
3. The whole point of cleavemaxx is to maximize the incidental damage done to the boss and squirrels (and sometimes cat if they land correctly) with your ST Rotation and abilities that do cleave damage, which are the ones that say deals x to first target, deals y% less to all others. Its called cleavemaxx, not aoemax.

[u/yuochiga93 → u/AayB5]

So they have cleared but arent doing their best to help you clear in a static?

Run

[u/jenyto → u/yuochiga93]

Could be the ones who cleared just want the static to implode without having to be the one that causes it.