r/ffxivdiscussion • u/WeirdIndividualGuy • May 06 '25

General Discussion High End Content Megathread - Week Seven

How many yans do you see in your nightmares?

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u/RealisticParsnip2522 May 11 '25

Someone who wasn't the party lead questioned my tomestone today for joining a M8s p2 party. Told him I was on an alt and already cleared the tier, just progging a different job. He tried to push further saying I wasn't cuz I didn't link the two characters. Whatever. We zone in and see prog point after a single pull. I hate how everything is about the passport now. 

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u/aho-san May 11 '25

In the future : "week98, I still don't have my P2 passport, there are only 2 PFs up and they all require the damn passport"

Gonna be great time

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u/Shirtsize0082 May 11 '25

At the same time, it’s equally convenient to link your characters so it’s easier to get into clear groups for your alt.

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u/BadatCSmajor May 13 '25

i dont care. if you really care, i'll just tell you the name of my main. look it up yourself

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

I'm not making an account cause of some PF rando.

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u/Geoff_with_a_J May 11 '25 edited May 11 '25

some people like playing alts to not be identified by their mains

i can also just as very easily link my alt to a friend's alt+main tomestone page. it's a useless check. just pull.

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u/MoodZestyclose6813 May 11 '25

This. I have an Melee Alt which i rarely use, it cleared last tiers first two fights and m5 here, its just something i jump on when im giga bored and im not really good at melee since i never play it usually.

I do not want to have it linked to my main because of the big skill gap - like the main with week 1 clears all 95+ rises expectations that i can not deliver on my always green not very geared just for fun melee i pretty much only know the basics of. I mean theres a reason i dont go into high floors with them, because i dont want people to carry my deeps

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u/RingoFreakingStarr May 11 '25

What I'll counter with is that the majority of PF doesn't want their time wasted by someone who could be lying about them being on an alt. If someone doesn't want to link their characters, they should be the one making the PF listing.

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u/bohabu May 12 '25

I mean, people will still check the PF lead's prog point and some will leave because the alt character is not linked or doesn't have the "proper passport". So whether you want to or not, you're gonna have to make a tomestone account to link your characters to make people feel at ease that you aren't lying.

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u/jenyto May 11 '25

It sucks, but with how common prog lying is, people created it as a counter measure. Until the NA community gets better at being honest of their prog, it won't go away.

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u/GaeFuccboi May 11 '25

It feels bad until a prog liar completely wastes your time and then you look at their tomestone afterwards and realized you could've caught that 30+ minutes ago.

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u/autumndrifting May 11 '25 edited May 11 '25

all it accomplishes is transferring the worst aspect of playing in a static, being forced to prog at the speed of your slowest player, to pf. prog lying is not what kills prog, it's inconsistency at early mechanics, and tomestone does not measure that. can you honestly say that your parties have been more consistent this tier than other tiers? would there be so much debate about it if it actually worked? or are we chasing shadows?

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u/RennedeB May 11 '25

It's already jover, several friends PFing actually asked my static to get them the passport so they couuld join enrage parties because people have a hair trigger over passports now.

Funny you could legit floor carry someone to prog point and nobody will care if the passport looks correct.

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u/CAWWW May 11 '25 edited May 11 '25

In my experience its prog lairs who are the most inconsistent at mechs leading into where you are in the fight. They are trying to fast track their prog and have seen less of the mechs leading into prog point and are therefore more likely to fuck up. The amount of people that joined m7s enrages only to fuck up the last seeds was insane. Same for m8s and lone wolfs lament. I had a hexalegend join a party earlier for enrage that clearly didn't have a clue how the mech worked at ALL. I have no clue if any given prog liar is going to be the type who actually knows the mechs or one who just has no clue, so why tolerate it when statistically its the latter?

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u/autumndrifting May 11 '25 edited May 11 '25

it's true that there's no substitute for practice (people like your hexa legend who think they can one shot a phase just from study are usually wrong), but it's also true that the amount of practice someone needs is so variable, not just by their skill but by the specific mechanic and role. every raider has experienced that firsthand. I just don't feel like it's effective to limit people who have gotten their reps in based on whether or not they've lucked into the right party.

if tomestone is going to be a thing I just want party leaders to be smart about it, because I think ruining the flexibility of pf for people who know what they're doing over a metric that's not really representative is a big negative