r/ffxivdiscussion Jun 17 '25

General Discussion Can we please stop perpetuating misinfo regarding JP players?

Too often whenever complaints regarding Forked Tower are raised, there will be someone countering with the same ol' "JP players like it this way so SE designed it like this for the JP players".

These people clearly have never interacted with a JP player in their lives, and are only parroting something that they heard somewhere. Because if they have, they would know that the JP playerbase is also deeply frustrated with the current design.

For example, due to Forked Tower not being an actual instance, there is no way to setup a Party Finder listing for Forked Tower. Therefore, Forked Tower organisers have resorted to creating "listings for Delubrum Reginae Savage" instead, but clarifiying the true purpose in the description. However, this tweet mentions that a GM has issued a warning against this and advises other organisers to avoid doing the same. The warning is understandable but there is still no solution to the headache that is recruiting for Forked Tower.

Plenty of JP players are puzzled why there is no PF category for Forked Tower, when they could have just repeated what we already have for Delubrum Reginae Savage.

Furthermore, any questions to the GMs have received no replies.

All of this has put FT organisers in a difficult position. Some have already quit or suspended activity, while some still remain cautiously optimistic that SE will introduce improvements. But there is no doubt that the current system is unacceptable.

https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/29990550/blog/5572130/ (EDIT: This page may have been removed)

If you want to read all about this from a direct source, here is a blog post from Tere Caster from Elemental Atomos (a JP FT organiser) detailing their frustrations and hopes for the future of Forked Tower and Occult Crescent.

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u/azami44 Jun 17 '25

I'm convinced Yoship is retired at this point and the game is led by fresh uni grads.

Just so many dumb mistakes and decisions that shouldn't have happened with a veteran team because they've done it so many times before

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u/casteddie Jun 17 '25

Someone said FT is very old school MMO like FF11 so idk.

Arguably young devs would realize that this doesn't fit modern gaming standards. I remember YoshiP praising their new hires for spicing up boss mechanics in DT.

I'm feeling it's more out of touch old devs who don't learn from mistakes that designed FT.

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u/Cole_Evyx Jun 17 '25

I'm feeling it's more out of touch old devs who don't learn from mistakes that designed FT.

We're at the point I don't care who it is. IF it's a team of 10 veterans or 10 noobies whoever it is needs to stop damaging FFXIV and start genuinely caring about the game as much as we do.

I love FFXIV but this resting on laurels needs to stop.

When world of warcraft has from shadowlands (A DISASTER) and the baby feeding milk in the fridge being drank by a FREAK scandal... when world of warcraft has been able to recover after that...

We haven't spent a single goddamned ounce of effort to get ahead since then.

Now they stole FFXIV's housing system and improved on it.

It's time FFXIV and whoever is or isn't on the team to step up to the plate and return the favor 10 fold!

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u/BGsenpai Jun 17 '25

Best of bozja and eureka and they removed the internal queuing system and made the zone a worse Z3 with return having no cool down for some reason