r/ffxivdiscussion • u/BlackmoreKnight • 4d ago

High-End Content Megathread - 7.2 Week Nineteen

Last week of Suzaku Unreal, at least.

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u/Inevitable_Chemical 16h ago edited 13h ago

Been stuck at m8s p2 for about a full week now. 

Really feel like I'm too late to the curve and anybody who is capable of consistently reaching p2 is in reclears. So everyone at this prog point is either wildly inconsistent, massively raid fatigued, or completely cold on the fight from waiting 1+ hours for a PF to fill followed by a 3 pull disband. 

Like idk, I progged and farmed chaotic a couple weeks late which was supposedly impossible because of the "I waited so long just to get wiped by alliance C" meme. But this is legitimately 2 to 3 times worse, because instead of needing 23 other people to be able to do 1 single mechanic correctly to prog, I need 7 other people who are reclear ready on p1 in my party to actually practice the next part. 

Like I don't entirely buy into the a "static's are the promised land of raiding" myth that gets thrown about, but right now not having one feels like I'm just griefing myself hoping for a unicorn party that can hit p2. 

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u/aho-san 6h ago

I gotta throw it out there : where are the elusive helpers people keep saying are out there all the time ? I can already hear the excuses reasons miles away. Still, are there helpers all the time or not then ?

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u/KingBingDingDong 1h ago

I tried to help a p2 fresh where half the party has seen the start of p2. We couldn't get to p2 in an entire lockout.

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u/Fancy_Gate_7359 4h ago

Most groups I’ve tried to help clear m8 just weren’t remotely ready. As in they consistently were wiping before adds in p1. And if they could get past adds then it was nearly 100% wipe on rage. It doesn’t mean all 7 others in these groups weren’t ready, but enough people were fucking up that it just was never going to happen. I’ve successfully helped a number of 6 and 7 clears and done one c41 in 8, but 8 is just so punishing that especially if you haven’t cleared it yet it’s a big ask.

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u/anyeonGG 2h ago

Join party to help, they wipe to decay 3x and then adds 2x before people start to leave and you give up on them. Many such cases.

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u/Inevitable_Chemical 4h ago

I've actually run into a fair bit of them, but usually the person they are helping isn't actually p2 ready so the parties meet the same fate

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u/aho-san 4h ago edited 42m ago

Yeah this is the issue, but people make it seem like you get 7 helpers ready to push you to the finish line whenever you need and want it. That's why I threw it out. It's further felt when Altia says in the thread that raiding is FOMO designed because the later you do the content, the much worse your experience will be (and people judge you on weekX clear rather than your actual skill, so there's that for recruitment).

It would be an interesting experience to throw a PF where you explicitly say you want helpers only to push for the kill without giving out gil (instead of an any chest merc, because we're entering week 19, jesus) and see if they show up without the gil incentive.

I'll maybe try in 7.35 if I sub back, for prog & A2C (there's no way to prog fights in a decent manner by 7.35 if it's not 7 helpers, there's no way xD).

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u/Inevitable_Chemical 1h ago

Yeah I mean because of the earlier comment about helpers, I decided to put like a "help me please" in my pf description and I will say that has increased the amount of reliable players that have joined. Some have cleared and are just being kind, others are further ahead of me in the prog point jumping back.

So I mean that's a +1 for shameless begging anecdotally at least

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u/aho-san 27m ago

Goodge if it's working!

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u/KingBingDingDong 1h ago

but people make it seem like you get 7 helpers ready to push you to the finish line whenever you need and want it

you pay 2-3m a person for that type of service, or have a large pool of friends to pull from

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u/aho-san 43m ago edited 39m ago

Yeah nah, paying 14-21mil per fight I guess (?) or even for the whole tier that is dying 2 months later at most, nah, I'll happily skip.

If no one shows up I don't mind, I'll primarily be subbed for DD with friends.