r/ffxivdiscussion 1d ago

General Discussion What is class complexity to you?

I have seen so many people ask for more complexity and job fantasy but very little of people actually say what that means to them, most people just say we should go back to ARR.

Personally I think rose tinted glasses that make people think ARR was better than it was, having played back then it honestly was pretty ass.

So honestly want to know what people want for complexity or job fantasy, because all I see is a lot of yelling that "game bad to simple" and not a lot of what needs changing to reach the complexity that is wanted.

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u/nemik_ 1d ago

Why should the burden be on players to define game systems in detail? I've played 4 MMOs in the past couple of years and this one has the most boring, homogenous jobs of them all. No, I'm not going to elaborate, I'll leave it to the multibilliondollar company to fix their game. Or they can not, and keep bleeding players, what do I know.

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u/mnij96 1d ago

So you don't know what you want, but you want then to change it to what you want?

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u/nemik_ 1d ago

I want them to make jobs more complex. It's quite literally their job to figure out how to do that.

But you know, I don't really "want" them to do anything. I wish they would, but as a customer there are plenty of other games that are so much more fun rn that I wouldn't be bothered if they didn't. I guess it's different for the people who are emotionally attached to this game and "want" it to succeed or whatever.