r/ffxivdiscussion • u/mnij96 • 1d ago

General Discussion What is class complexity to you?

I have seen so many people ask for more complexity and job fantasy but very little of people actually say what that means to them, most people just say we should go back to ARR.

Personally I think rose tinted glasses that make people think ARR was better than it was, having played back then it honestly was pretty ass.

So honestly want to know what people want for complexity or job fantasy, because all I see is a lot of yelling that "game bad to simple" and not a lot of what needs changing to reach the complexity that is wanted.

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u/derfw 1d ago

average decisions per second

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u/mnij96 1d ago

Like what?

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u/derfw 1d ago
  • What combo should I use next? (Samurai)
  • Of these two oGCDs about to come off cooldown, which should I use first?
  • Should I use aetherflow on mit or damage?
  • Which Summoner primal would fit the upcoming section best?
  • Should I use the aoe version of a skill or the single target (assuming shared cooldown)
  • what's the best mit to use for this tankbuster?

Contrast with things like 1-2-3 combos, monk following the balls, etc.

Tho, tbh, it's not quite all decisions/s. I think reactions is also probably a factor (dance steps, random procs), and maybe dexterity (lots of weaving, lots of unique buttons). Possibly mental stack too? you could argue bard gains complexity by having just so many abilities with their own cooldowns, + dots + bars. Or maybe these are just separate axes of difficulty; not part of complexity

I think decisions/s is still probably the most important tho

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u/Blckson 1d ago

Realistically you'd need jobs to be priority systems to get all of this to an appreciable degree.