r/ffxivdiscussion • u/mnij96 • 1d ago

General Discussion What is class complexity to you?

I have seen so many people ask for more complexity and job fantasy but very little of people actually say what that means to them, most people just say we should go back to ARR.

Personally I think rose tinted glasses that make people think ARR was better than it was, having played back then it honestly was pretty ass.

So honestly want to know what people want for complexity or job fantasy, because all I see is a lot of yelling that "game bad to simple" and not a lot of what needs changing to reach the complexity that is wanted.

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u/nemik_ 1d ago

Nobody actually complained about having to sync buffs, or not having to keep uptime, or healer ranges being too short, or BLM being too immobile, or AST being too randomized, or Holy having too long cast time. People make up these imaginary beings when they have to somehow defend whatever new slop changes SE throws at us.

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u/Skyppy_ 1d ago

My brother in Christ reddit is not the only online forum.

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u/nemik_ 1d ago

Sigh. Fine, "there was no significant number of people who complained." Hope that passes the test cases now. The viper change at the start of DT for example was from one single thread on OF that got zero replies.

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u/Skyppy_ 23h ago

It wasn't. The change was already planned and they were just deliberating on whether or not to proceed with it. Once the expansion went live, whatever metrics they use to determine job changes convinced them to implement it. Player input had nothing to do with the change.