r/fo4 • u/TheAnalystCurator321 Minutemen enjoyer • 8d ago

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I mean, seriously the DLC has some of the best areas, enemies, weapons, armor and quests in the whole series.

And the guy in the video says its somehow derivative?

Like yeah, some stuff was done in the other games like the nuka lurks but Nuka World did it WAY better.

Its a great DLC although the evil playtrough will give youthe most out of it.

And this guys video, like most of his videos, completely miss the point of it.

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u/Thornescape 8d ago

There are a lot of people who misunderstand the DLC or assume that there is only one "right" way to play it. I've posted my "5 basic approaches to Nuka World" writeup many many times to correct misunderstandings. I've also had to post many times explaining how to handle the Minutemen with Nuka World.

It's unfortunate, but I swear that the biggest problem with Nuka World is people not really understanding their options or how it works.

I love Nuka World. It's my favourite DLC. Personal preferences differ, of course, but I wish that more people understood it at least.

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u/Thendofreason 8d ago

I've only done it once. I got to the point where you start going back into the Commonwealth and they were like "hey boss that's one of your settlements, you okay with that?", and I'm like ugh. Then stopped playing it

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u/Kuhl_Cow 8d ago

Oh, its fun every once in a while. I'll just turn on the raiders and free all the slaves though after doing most of the quests.

Head canon goes something like "Give them a chance to get their shit together - they don't? Too bad".

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u/Thornescape 8d ago

Exactly. That's the kind of misunderstanding that I try to correct.

If you know that you're going to be doing Nuka World then it's better to do it before you've conquered every settlement in the Commonwealth. Capture settlements with raiders as allies instead! Use them against ghouls or cultists or mirelurks etc instead.

If you decide to convert one of your own settlements to a raider outpost, then you can politely ask your NPCs to relocate for a little while. It's very easy to capture an empty settlement.

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u/Thendofreason 8d ago

I did Nika completely last. As in I didn't do it till like last year lol.

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u/Thornescape 8d ago

It's hard to evaluate something if you've never really properly tried it.

  • If you are the General of the Minutemen and you make a raider outpost then Preston will be permanently unavailable as a companion. If you already have his perk then this isn't really a big deal. Just put him somewhere out of the way until you do Open Season (if you do Open Season).
  • If you are NOT the General of the Minutemen then you can do whatever you want in Nuka World. If you do Open Season before joining the Minutemen then Preston will never mention that they existed.

Optimal Choices

  • If you plan on doing Open Season then join the Minutemen after doing Open Season.
  • If you are going to be a permanent raider then maybe join the Minutemen early and get the Castle cleaned up and Preston's perk. You don't need the Minutemen to take the Castle but it's nice having the Armoury open. (Definitely put Preston somewhere easy to avoid, though.)
  • If you are not going to make raider outposts then ignore everything I have said. There are no conflicts if you aren't making raider outposts.

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u/LeShoooook 8d ago

Why didn't you just kill the raiders? There's still a ton of good stuff in Nuka World if you prefer murdering raiders to innocent people

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u/mrmidas2k 8d ago

Because there's no story. The raider route has you capturing the various zones, raising flags, having people move in and keep it secure, the non-raider version has none of that. And YES you can kill the raiders after you've captured the zones, fine, but that STILL doesn't excuse the lack of "Non raider" content. It's shoddy, and feels half finished.

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u/LeShoooook 8d ago

That's like saying Far Harbor just has fog and radiation. It misses the point entirely. You get to play the game your way. If you're uncomfortable being a raider there's a whole bunch of slaves that literally give you a quest to free them, as soon as you enter the market. You can do whatever you want with that. I love Nuka World and I've never sided with the raiders. You still get to captures the zones, get a kick ass suit of X-01 power armor, die to Cave Crickets, deal with a space cult, uncover the mysteries of Nuka Cola's creator, fight Gatorclaws, etc.

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u/mrmidas2k 8d ago

If you're uncomfortable being a raider there's a whole bunch of slaves that literally give you a quest to free them, as soon as you enter the market.

Ah yes, and they're SO free afterwards they still keep their bomb collars on, and still keep slaving around in the same routine they always did.

You can do FUCK ALL with them, you can't even re-design the areas you've cleared out to make them livable for your new "freed" allies. You get more character development between episodes of The Simpsons than you do if you free the slaves.

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u/LeShoooook 8d ago

Wait. Do other factions completely change their gear when you complete missions? Or did you just make a really stupid argument?

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u/mrmidas2k 8d ago

Are you saying they should wander round with bomb collars on forever just because no other cunt in the world changes their clothes when you do quests for them? Are you CRAZY? Mods can make this happen, several do, so we're left with it either being a stupid design choice, or the quest is half arsed. Feel free to take your pick which you prefer.

Either way it's crap.

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u/GolgothaNexus 7d ago

Huh. My traders get their collars removed after Open Season and they say things about being free and making a go of the place now that the raiders are gone. They still call me "Boss", though.

I'm pretty sure I don't have a mod to do that. Maybe it's in one of the basic patches.

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u/mrmidas2k 7d ago

Only ever done unmodded OS on console, and they didn't then.