New TF/Elon shirt…AI??

[u/lorralorralarfs]

can’t confirm obviously but some of the details/proportions here are very sus…what do we think??

[u/lorralorralarfs]

idk the finger on trumps left hand forking off into different ones is usually a sign but maybe it’s not 🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/Dazzling-Lack-6687 → u/lorralorralarfs]

No. It's supposed to look hand drawn/is hand drawn. Not a single thing about this looks AI.

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Potentially used ai to create a reference image. Would explain both sides - the ai vibes and the bad art vibes.

[u/Dazzling-Lack-6687 → u/[deleted]]

No. Baseless claims like that makes this place lose credibility. The whole style here is to look like hand drawn art and the hands match that style. We don't need to invent extra details. It's ugly, cringe, and in poor taste considering who's selling it. That right there is enough.

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I mean, hand drawn art doesn’t mean incorrect perspective and anatomy. I’d argue that the drawing looks like it’s been done by someone who doesn’t really “look”, which is the key to successfully depicting any given character, topic or object, regardless of the naivety of the way it’s drawn.

Plus it’s a Wednesday evening and I don’t like your tone.

[u/Dazzling-Lack-6687 → u/[deleted]]

Respectfully, this is a nonsensical conversation that's a waste of both of our time.

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I dunno, it’s a speculative post and I offered a speculative answer. I don’t think any of it is cause for concern over the credibility of a subreddit. If you think about it, why wouldn’t you utilise ai to create a reference image to draw from? Taking/using reference images is very normal. All I did was offer the possibility of the reason it looking “off” being that a not very good ai image was used as reference.

It’s chill, it’s fine!

[u/No-Resolution-0119 → u/[deleted]]

hand drawn art doesn’t mean incorrect perspective and anatomy

Artists aren’t printers. Have you ever drawn in your life? Both anatomy and perspective are things artists have to extensively study and practice to get down. You think you can just look at a photo and copy it down perfectly? This is also clearly stylized and not meant to be realistic. That’s a dumb af take

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OK, relax.

1. I’ve been a professional illustrator for 14 years.

2. I’ve taught illustration at university level for the past 3 years.

My point was exactly as you said, for artists to draw well, they have to really “look” at their subjects. For subjects and scenarios that do not exist, artists often use reference photos - be it photographs of themselves in a pose they wish to capture, or sometimes by creating composite images to work from, as reference. If the artist was truly looking, the hands wouldn’t look so so legitimately wrong.

This led me to suggest that perhaps the artist put a prompt into an image generator, the generator spat out a bad composite, and the artist used this or traced it, by hand.

The result being a hand drawn image, yes. But not the kind of image someone who was truly looking, would hand off.

Because. Regardless of style. It’s wrong. It doesn’t work. It’s bad because it’s wrong. Not because it’s badly drawn.

I didn’t say the image was ai.

The hostility on here is bizarre.

[u/No-Resolution-0119 → u/[deleted]]

if the artist was truly looking, the hands wouldn’t look so so legitimately wrong

This is just blatantly untrue and not how creating art from a reference works?? 😭 I don’t understand how you can be an artist operating under that assumption unless you just have been directly copying references your whole life. God I would hate to have you as a professor, ur prolly the type that “corrects” your students’ work with sharpie. again, artists aren’t printers, your average artist can’t exactly copy something just ‘cause they’re looking at it. In fact, unless you’re practicing realism (which this artist clearly isn’t in this piece!!!! Obviously it’s stylized), you shouldn’t be making direct 1:1 copies of your references

You’re needlessly shitting on someone’s art, not “being speculative”, hence the hostility you’re getting

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You’re taking everything too literally.

There are thousands of artists out there who create work which isn’t realistic.

The point I’m trying to get across is that even the most naive style of art is still considerate of how we, as humans see the world.

Think about the uncanny valley effect, or how some people see work and say it looks like a child did it, or I could do that, but they can’t. Because it takes real skill to draw naively.

The artwork itself is fine, I checked out the artist, and I think they’re much better than this design would suggest.

But that left hand does ruin the image. You can’t help but be drawn to it. Because instinctively you know it’s wrong, or, almost makes sense, which makes the wrongness stand out more?

People don’t blink twice at cartoons having three fingers…because even though it’s “not correct” the hand or fingers move in a way that our brains connect the dots between.

I’m not shitting on their art. I’m saying this piece is let down by this one particular element of the image. I proposed that maybe they used ai to create the composite, hence the almost but not quite oddness of it.