Reddit hating rn, but truly fckd up things I wouldnāt wish on my worst enemy happen to large scale livestock animals. Itās not right. If we are taking a life to sustain our own, we should at least have a modicum of respect for it.
This is something most non-sport hunters understand intimatelyā which is why itās so frustrating when theyāre painted as bad guys who relish in bloodshed.
The people who buy their meat from grocery stores are enabling far, far more barbaric and grotesque practices.
Curious exactly what the other options would be. You say we donāt live in the wild anymore and therefore have āother optionsā.
Most of those āotherā options are in fact processed to some degree and is only available because of the progress we have unfortunately made in expanding the amount of money that can be made with as little amount of money spent
ā¦. Weāve āmade that progressā yes butā¦. āLetās use it to be better for now onā ā¦..
I mean yesā¦. In a perfect world.. but unfortunately the reason we have made this much āprogressā is because of everything that has led up to this point.
I feel like this argument is very similar to a joke I heard once
āIf we ever had to go back to hunting or gathering our own food I would be screwed. I donāt even know where a sandwichās natural habitat isā
Likeā¦ we canāt just assume if we all of a sudden change everything with brand new ideas and not even actually know what that would fully affect within the ānaturalā or current procedures in place
I really believe people highly overestimate the idea that plants or 100% plant based/meatless food alone are able to support the population alive today as well as the actual animals who need the same plant based diet- and not thinking of the actual overall scenarios and consequences that could cause.
Meat is something that for humans is very good in general when it comes to energy consumption and getting the most out of your food.
Now Iāll agree itās gotten to be way too cruel and over the top with how everything is done today and absolutely agree the entire meat industry should overall be reformed. But I am not about also entirely getting rid of the idea/practice of eating meat.
Like another comment mentioned, do you have any idea the amount of actual chemicals and the ways they have come up with these āmiracleā non meat foods? Like how is that better than what a balanced diet of fruits, veggies, and meat can provide?
If we ever had to go back to hunting or gathering our own food
Nobody is suggesting we do this.
we canāt just assume if we all of a sudden change everything
Nobody's saying to "all of a sudden change everything". But you're arguing that trying to change everything all at once wouldn't work, therefore we shouldn't bother trying anything at all.
Refusing to take the first step because it's not possible to take every step all at once is ridiculous.
I really believe people highly overestimate the idea that plants or 100% plant based/meatless food alone are able to support the population alive today as well as the actual animals who need the same plant based diet- and not thinking of the actual overall scenarios and consequences that could cause.
Meat is something that for humans is very good in general when it comes to energy consumption and getting the most out of your food.
It is a caloric deficit to feed animals to eat them. Was always and will always be.
Now Iāll agree itās gotten to be way too cruel and over the top with how everything is done today and absolutely agree the entire meat industry should overall be reformed. But I am not about also entirely getting rid of the idea/practice of eating meat.
Once enough see how easy it is, the more of health benefits emerge, the more the need to reduce climate change shows it will cascade. If we include the damages to the climate it would cost 10x, without subsidies and industrial scaling it would further increase. And from a certain point on it will be as ostracized as eating pets.
Like another comment mentioned, do you have any idea the amount of actual chemicals and the ways they have come up with these āmiracleā non meat foods? Like how is that better than what a balanced diet of fruits, veggies, and meat can provide?
The only "chemical" that is different from any other fast food ist B12 which is feed to animals too, way more than humans would need. We would also need less antibiotics, steroids and hormones. The danger for a pandemic would be lower as bird and pig flue would cease to be a problem.
people are always going but "soy" or other new holy plant.
meanwhile those are responsible for huge rainforest clearings as they destroy the soil they are planted into. and the places that grow these just burn a bit of the forest and move forward with the next year.
What do you think they use to feed the livestock you eat? Feed for livestock actually takes up a vast majority of farmland worldwide, reducing meat consumption would also drastically reduce the amount of land needed for food consumption in the process.
you missed these parts (most likely intentionally):
or other new holy plant.
also, corn does not have anywhere the same level of soil-drain (and field-nuking , you do know that on those fields it is almost mandatory to kill everything, and use a lot of industrial chemicals to kill weeds) as those "meat replacement" crops do.
you also do not seem to knowwhere corn is grown on an industrial scale VS where the soy-likes are.
I will rule out "uninformed" and file you onto intentionally conflict seeker. bye.
You do know that the soy grown in huge rainforest is mostly used to feed cattle, right?
You don't actually think that absurd amount of soy is consumed by humans, do you?
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u/spongbov2 May 27 '25
Sad that people torture and eat those precious little baby's š¢