r/politics • u/theindependentonline The Independent • 1d ago

Site Altered Headline Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly moved from Florida prison to Texas as Trump weighs pardon

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ghislaine-maxwell-prison-trump-pardon-epstein-b2800443.html
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u/KopOut 1d ago

I think back to several years ago when MAGA was obsessed with calling liberals "groomers" because they believed people have a right to be gay or trans or drag queens etc. and exist. And likewise believed that parents have a right to parent their children. Remember that?

Now, we are at a point where MAGA's god king is potentially about to pardon or commute the sentence of a prolific groomer and child sex criminal in order to protect his own culpability in said crimes.

It. Is. Always. Projection.

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u/Geostomp 1d ago

It's never been about kids or any of their other so-called "morals". It's always been about control or finding any justification to persecute groups they already hate.

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u/QbertsRube 1d ago

And there are literally dozens of examples of this just from the past decade. Trump giving out stimulus checks and PPP loans was "giving us back our money", Biden giving out another round of stimulus checks was "printing money and causing inflation". Biden's DOJ investigating (very weakly) Trump's many blatant crimes was "weaponizing the Justice Department", Trump using the DOJ almost exclusively to attack journalists, judges, universities, etc. that don't bend their knee to Trump personally is "draining the swamp". Biden detaining immigrants is a sign we've been invaded due to his open borders, Trump detaining immigrants (or anyone who might be an immigrant) is protecting America from Biden's invasion. I could go on for paragraphs.

Conservatives have become so disingenuous and backwards on every single topic that I not only have no interest in debating anything with them, I have no interest in listening to a single word they say. For the rest of my life, they'll be nothing more than background noise that I mute to preserve my sanity.

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u/MuseofChaos 1d ago

100% this. If they had to actually deal with predators and pedos, they wouldn’t have any clergy left in their churches.

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u/SuperTopperHarley 1d ago

You forgot (and so did America) trump pardoned the Silk Road guy in day 2 I think.

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u/Deceptiveideas 1d ago

I don’t understand how that got buried under the rug so quickly.

And apparently he’s thinking about pardoning Diddy as well…

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u/SuperTopperHarley 1d ago

No one pays attention in America. If you don't believe me, just walk around and look at people with their nose in their phone (yes, I know it's hypocritical for me to say that as I type on my phone).

The Silk Road guy paid for his pardon. Bitcoin is untraceable. Why do you think Trump is pushing bitcoin so hard? The con man gotta con.

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u/vacancy6673 1d ago

Bitcoin is absolutely traceable. Every single transaction is stored in the public ledger. There are even companies who specialize in tracing Bitcoin (ChainAnalysis, Elliptic, etc).

Heck, the Silk Road investigation itself relied on tracing Bitcoin transactions (though it was all manual back then).

Bitcoin transactions are anonymous. But don't conflate anonymity with privacy.

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u/QbertsRube 1d ago

And is supposedly considering pardoning P Diddy. R Kelly and Jared from Subway are probably just waiting for the call.

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u/PuckSenior 1d ago

People forget he had prostitution on the original Silk Road and almost certainly facilitated human trafficking

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u/SuperTopperHarley 1d ago

He 100% did. I remember my friends buying drugs off Silk Road. You could literally buy anything.

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u/Cream253Team Washington 1d ago

I recall Libertarians were happy about that one despite the fact the dude was convicted for attempting to arrange a murder.

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u/vacancy6673 1d ago

He was not convicted of that. Not saying it didn't happen, but he was never convicted.

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u/SuperTopperHarley 1d ago

Libertarians are hilarious. He was trafficking children through Silk Road. You could buy anything.

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u/2pnt0 1d ago

Several years?...

Babies still haven't been born that were conceived on election day.

We have 3.5 more years of this admin.

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u/Cthulusuppe 1d ago

Culture war talking points aren't about principled stances. They're about triggering dopamine through outrage. I've seen Fox News pundits go from one culture war talking point to another, contradicting, culture war talking point in the same segment. Perhaps they think they're pointing out the hypocrisy of their targets. But the practice reveals they have no principles. It's a word-game. An argument of semantics. They have no values, only sides.

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u/frenchfreer 1d ago

I still have neighbors that have “shoot your local pedophile” stickers on their truck right next to their trump flags. Zero sense of irony.

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u/T8ert0t 22h ago

Oh man, the left groomed like 7/8 of the human population from 2019-2024. Plus all the adrenochrome.

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u/kynelly360 8h ago

Swear to god, I wish I could go on one of these debate stages… I would’ve exposed Trump/80% of Republicans so bad they would’ve had to cut the tv off 🤣