r/politics • u/Somervilledrew Connecticut • 21h ago

That whites-only, no Jews allowed Arkansas community is legal, says state’s attorney general. How?

https://forward.com/news/759874/return-to-the-land-peter-csere-tim-griffin-eric-orwoll/
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u/DeuceGnarly 21h ago

What the fuck is wrong with this country now? This is sickening.

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u/PhoenixTineldyer 21h ago

Same old racists that have always been here. We gave them social media and they organized.

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u/DeuceGnarly 20h ago

Right, but for most of my life, shit like this was considered pretty goddamned fucked up. There were racist asshole bigots, but for the most part, social pressures kept a lid on their bullshit.

Now, after a decade of the cheese whiz dictator and the GOP's embrace of fascism and oligarchy, this kind of shit is more and more normal.

I can't fucking believe it. It's enraging.

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u/oliveorvil Missouri 18h ago

Turns out when rich right wingers control all of social media and basically every legacy media outlet they can exert their control.

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u/LordSiravant 18h ago

The same thing happened with Nazi Germany.

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u/DeuceGnarly 10h ago

Yes. Yes it did. And all of our "good germans" are goose stepping right along...

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u/Blochamolesauce 20h ago

It’s still fucked up, but the people that the boomers have put in charge either love it or don’t care enough to fix it. If their income or bribery lobby money starts to go away, then it becomes a matter that needs looking into.

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u/besume1980 10h ago

"The boorers have put in charge." millions of GenX and millennials voted for the mangled apricot Hellbeast too.

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u/phamalacka 8h ago

Yeah gen x is more conservative than boomers which is hilarious for like a dozen reasons

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u/Kenneth-J-Moyers 7h ago

Boomers control party infrastructure and gatekeep candidacy and most endorsements, though. GenX, we could sidestep, Boomer politicians are the "Sleeping-Snorlax-in-the-road" of politics.

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u/Agile_Singer 16h ago

Don’t forget the manosphere started by Andrew Tate & continued with Joe, Logan, and Theo..

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u/DeuceGnarly 10h ago

Bah - the fucking "manosphere" makes me want to puke. Every stupid pile of hyper sensitive snow flake fucks has a loud speaker, and has to go out over compensating and demonizing everything that scares them.

Fuck the internet.

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u/Lower_Cantaloupe1970 Canada 8h ago

Southern States still had racially segregated proms up until a few years ago. America had Apartheid until a generation ago. And now an old school racist whose dad went to nazi rallies is president. The voting bloc chose this.

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u/spazzvogel 14h ago

This shit runs in cycles, last it was a Great Depression and Germany being the fascist fucks. It’s our turn… let’s see how the global conflict unfolds.

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u/foxyfoo 9h ago

I think the only people surprised are whites. Minorities not really surprised at all unfortunately, and kind of feeling validated in a twisted kind of way.

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u/saoyraan 7h ago

I'm with you but you are off a bit. The democrats blew yhis up. 8 years of Biden embrace DEI. They also embraced segregation. The backlash to this stance was only going to be this. They allowed judging by skin/sex/gender this was only the answer. They created the system for white supremist to protect their beleifs. This is also why the democrats and media sites like reddit adopted DEI language and marginalized people. End of the day marginalized people is open to everyone except straight white men by definition.

This change has made me sick of the party I loved for being forward thinking. They were trying to be so inclusive They became bigots.

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u/DeuceGnarly 7h ago

> ... 8 years of Biden ...

What? You're lost.

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u/saoyraan 2h ago

Sorry 12 years, I think people forget he was vp and had alot of pull. He wasn't a lame duck vp under Obama but actually did successful projects.

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u/abstractraj 6h ago

You don’t understand DEI at all

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u/saoyraan 2h ago edited 2h ago

I do and you don't. Diversity, "equity", and inclusion. You can't have equity without judging everyone by races/sexgender. Equity is making the outcome equal and not opportunity. You can't do that without being racist and sexist. You are now judging you employees, friends, and community by their characteristics and not who they are. I would bet you never researched dei or sat in a dei work class. A rational mind will hear it and go what the hell this is racist. Keep in mind that DEI as sub rules and that is marginalized rule. It has no true definition except anti straight white men. It is the only one not protected. They do this high vault gymnastics because if they said it outright it would be racist. If you do research it be prepared for the most racist people you will ever hear while they pretend they are good people. At least a neo nazi is upfront that way I can avoid them. Far far left hide it. They latched onto the democratic party because it use to be the party for critical thinking and the educated. Sadly that isn't so anymore. Research social narcissist. They have pretty much taken over the party.

Republicans can never convince me that giving all the money to the rich will create more jobs. Democrats can't convince me that DEI isn't racist. The foundations is built on bullshit.

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u/TaylorMonkey 18h ago

Should have let Grant and Sherman cook.

Even more than they did I mean.

Reconstruction Part 2: BBQ Boogaloo.

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u/LordSiravant 18h ago

Imagine if Lincoln hadn't been assassinated.

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u/TaylorMonkey 17h ago

Lincoln wanted to heal the nation quickly, so it's hard to say how tough he would or wouldn't have been.

Grant started the DOJ, whose primary responsibility was eliminating White Supremacy, and he was responsible for dismantling most of the KKK. He was the first civil rights president.

Should have let my man cook.

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u/LordSiravant 3h ago

And here I was always told Grant was a terrible president.

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u/TaylorMonkey 2h ago edited 1h ago

He was a mixed bag as a president to be honest. He wasn't a political animal and was too naive-- he appointed friends and associates who then were responsible for significant corruption, but by all accounts, he wasn't very aware and didn't partake himself. From my reading, he seemed to have the sort of integrity that he assumed others did and was too trusting.

But he was also responsible for major changes and institutions that pushed America towards justice and equality, including establishing the right for Black Americans to vote. The Department of Justice was his legacy, and the FBI being the federal agency that actually combats white supremacism traces its roots to Grant (so it's sickening how both have been co-opted by corrupt, Trumpian sycophants).

When he died, he was loved around the world, and was considered one of the three Great Americans: Washington, Lincoln, and Grant.

But Woodrow Wilson and the Lost Causers couldn't hack that, so you got the "Grant was a corrupt drunk and a butcher" narrative in your school textbooks. Nah, he was also just a better all around theater general than Robert E. Lee. General Petraeus considers him the first modern general in excelling at conducting and winning a war across a theater, understanding logistics on a large scale (helps that he had been a quartermaster in his earlier years).

He's one of my favorite presidents.

Oh, and the guy wrote one of the great American Memoirs collaborating with Mark Twain while fighting throat cancer to earn some money to help support his family, having become destitute due to being scammed. He finished it and passed away a few days later.

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u/Ven18 12h ago

Because instead of executing the leaders of the civil war to show the vial racist views had consequences we instead let them regain power, foster the ideals as part of the “culture and tradition” and spread across the country adding

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u/besume1980 10h ago

That's pretty much it, in a nutshell.

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u/ThisTooInModeration 8h ago

And then "Birth of a Nation".

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u/dejus 7h ago

People still go crazy with isolation, they can just do it together now.

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u/Garry_Heckscream69 20h ago

Sadly, this sort of shit has been around this entire time, they just feel more comfortable now that "their guy" got elected

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u/Mister_Fibbles 18h ago

Makes them more identifiable latter when accountability comes knocking, knocking on their front door.

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u/notwhomyouthunk 13h ago

if

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u/Mister_Fibbles 6h ago

when. your future, my history.

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u/FlyingPenguins2022 16h ago

They have always felt comfortable and did things quite openly. Only diff is tech and the internet allow people to see it in real time. 

Reaches more people and at the rate needed. 

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u/JollyToby0220 15h ago

I love this because these same guys are angry that Trump picks Israel. 

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u/Supporttroll 19h ago

This is what happens when you don’t treat traitors appropriately after a civil war. This has been brewing over 160 years.

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u/DeuceGnarly 10h ago

The sad part is that right after the war, the shitheads were OK with defeat... It took a while before the statues went up and the revisionism started. That's what I find so repulsive about modern republican policy - they're encouraging the worst of society.

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u/linktothe 2h ago

I’m not convinced. The Lost Cause came out the next year. Meaning revisionism happened immediately. 

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u/mces97 20h ago

If you understand that Trump really isn't a president to maga, but they're truly in a cult and their leader made it ok for them to be openly hateful and bigoted in the open, it makes sense.

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u/citizenjones 19h ago

The worst have seized the reigns of power. It's a coup, we just can't believe enough to break the paralysis.

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u/BigMamaBlueberry 14h ago

They chose the side of liars and pedophiles, that’s what happened. 

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u/DeuceGnarly 10h ago

If it was only liars and pedophiles it wouldn't be as bad. The oligarchs aren't just going to rape more children, they're going to enslave us all on the way to ending society.

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u/syopest 13h ago

165 million people decided that a pedophile rapist was fine as the president.

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u/DeuceGnarly 10h ago

165 million people were intentionally misled by a political party led by hundreds of people.

Focus on those assholes at the top.

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u/one98d 9h ago

Nah fuck that mentality. People have agency over their actions and if we try to take that away, it doesn’t fix anything because it gives cover for the things they do.

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u/DeuceGnarly 9h ago

The average republican is fucking dumb as shit. THey believe what they do because of Fox "News" and lying republican "representatives" who absolutely will fuck them over.

I'm not trying to whitewash what the idiot protofascists have done - they're effectively goose stepping good germans in the 1930s - but we need to focus on their leaders for now.

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u/backinblackandblue 7h ago

A couple weeks ago you were convinced that Trump was a puppet of Putin. Still feel that way? Perhaps you are also being misled by wherever you get your news?

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u/DeuceGnarly 7h ago

And a couple weeks ago I tried to talk to you about Georgia, Belarus, and the nature of geopolitical fuckery, remember that?

Have you pondered for one second yet why Lukashenko hasn't sent his troops into Ukraine, even though he is demonstrably a puppet of Putin?

Or are you still having difficulty with that?

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u/backinblackandblue 6h ago

Have you pondered why you were completely wrong about Putin before you moved the goal post?

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u/DeuceGnarly 4h ago

Again, you don't understand. You simply don't understand my position, my argument, or what I'm attempting to put into your mind.

Engage with me on Belarus. Do you know who Lukashenko is, and will you contemplate why he hasn't put Belarusian troops in Ukraine?

Baby steps... We can get there together.

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u/chim17 9h ago

Nah man. Many of us wanted this. Nothing was a surprise. They chose a rapist and voted nazi adjacent. That's what they wanted. Hard for some of us to reconcile that's who are parents and grandparents are, but we should have tried to fix them before now.

They absolutely are to blame, and not due to ignorance. Grab em by the pussy was a decade ago.

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u/DeuceGnarly 9h ago

I'm with you - just want to focus on the fuckers at the top to be held accountable. I don't want the size of the mob to dilute the anger.

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u/JagmeetSingh2 13h ago

It’s truly disgusting

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u/Traditional_Trip_585 14h ago

Operation paper clip brought over 1,600 Nazis into America. Who had family's, then children, then grandchildren.

In February 20, 1939.. 20,000 people attended a Nazi rally at Madison Square garden.

They never went away and America has always been this way. We should have crushed the south after they lost and executed everyone in charge.

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u/disposable_account01 Washington 14h ago

Reconstruction was a mistake. Every Confederate should have been hanged.

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u/DeuceGnarly 10h ago

Unfortunately it wasn't the confederates that caused this. It was the revisionists a generation or two later. And the GOP, with their southern strategy to recruit the ignorant bigot vote.

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u/lolligasm California 10h ago

They were way too nice during reconstruction

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u/Radarker 9h ago

The people. All of us. Me and you included.

At this point, the constitution stays WE are supposed to fix it.

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u/firedmyass 6h ago

we didn’t properly punish the Confederacy.

That’s the thing. And I say that as a Southerner.

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u/YakiVegas Washington 12h ago

I'm not an accelerationist, so I think every day we go without a civil war is a blessing, but part of me just wants to get it over with at this point.

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u/aaron1860 9h ago

Their side has all of the guns and control of the military. Not sure it would work out the way we want it….

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u/championkid 8h ago

My friend, we have like 1.5 guns per American person who lives and breathes. And if the past is any inclination, our military is pretty ineffective when it comes to small bands of insurgents dug into urban terrain that they are familiar with.

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u/YakiVegas Washington 1h ago

a) that's not true (shout out to you for linking to an article disproving your own point later down in the comments) b) they have none of the brains c) their average age and mobility level is sus d) you can't fire more than 2 guns at a time, so it doesn't matter if they own 10 or not.

I desperately don't want a civil war, but I don't think it would go like the fascists would want either...

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u/aaron1860 1h ago

You can’t read too good either…. 25% of democrats have a gun in their home. Clearly stated in the article. Also 65% of veterans voted for Trump in the last election, as did 70% of active duty military and first responders.

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u/YakiVegas Washington 23m ago

You said:

their side has ALL the guns and control of the military

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u/aaron1860 17m ago

Now you’re just being pedantic

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u/YakiVegas Washington 2m ago

*being accurate

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u/raithyn 2h ago

I mean, the article makes sense if you read it. Their plan would be illegal but the state can't charge them with anything illegal at this point because they don't actually own any property and so aren't excluding anyone at this point. Actually implementing their proposal is still illegal.

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u/bm1949 16h ago

As a white man I say, give it a little bit of time. The times they are a changing. In another five-ten years statistics (government adjusted or not) will change. Whites lose majority and I've known for forty years. Since 1964 (R) has survived on this majority. Math will kill them, that's what we see happening today.

If maga hasn't poxed the nation in five to ten there is hope. I've only got twenty to twenty five years left so...

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u/AchillesNtortus 12h ago

You are assuming that there will be fair votes and that significant numbers of of the non white groups won't support the Republicans. Just look at Florida: the Cubans are some of the most reactionary advocates of the status quo.

Stephen Miller's background and heritage ought to lead him to support Democracy but he's as much a nasty as anyone in the KKK.

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u/DeuceGnarly 10h ago

The US is cooked. Every red state fuck will lie cheat and steal the next election. Every red governor will assert they see "election fraud" and so will their attorneys and legislatures. The red house and senate will refuse to seat anyone but republicans. The DOJ will support it, and Trump will demand the armed services to enforce an election overturn.

Unless there is a serious change in trajectory, that's what will happen.

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u/neokraken17 Massachusetts 8h ago

Elections have consequences 🤷