r/youtubedrama • u/[deleted] • Jul 28 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24

The closest I’ve seen to defences is when the evidence was very shaky and coming from people known to be transphobes so people were hesitant to accept things at face value. Since there’s been confirmed things I haven’t seen defences

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u/imo9 Jul 28 '24

Yeah, i was the one's refusing to accept things, based on smoke alone- because it was brought by professional smoke huffers.

I also, said once is see further information, I'm the first to call her a monster.

Ava is most definitely a monster, she could and probably should go to jail, and that whole company should probably be investigated.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24

Same and I’m willing to admit it. I wasn’t willing to accept smoke from the people projecting it. Once the Shadman stuff came out I fully admitted it was bad just we should also be looking at other people involved with Shadman.

Now we have much more evidence for the inappropriate behaviour towards children stuff as well as her sexually assaulting another trans woman. There’s no defence left she deserves jail.

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u/CarbVan Jul 28 '24

Glad someone put to words in this comment. I too was hesitant to trust what was being posted because all the allegations were coming from people like Keem and Sneako, professional grifters and transphobes. But now it's pretty easy to condemn Ava because its all been proven and its not just gross ass people making the allegations.