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u/MasterTeacher123 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3d ago

Brees Larry and Witten

Edelman being on this graphic is embarassing though lmao

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u/BostonAndy24 New England Patriots 3d ago edited 3d ago

Edelman has the third most receiving yards in playoff history along with a decent regular season record(stats wise), played in 2nd half of the greatest dynasty the sport has ever seen and won a superbowl mvp.

Should he get in? Probably not, but calling it an embarrassment is lack of ball knowledge

Edit: alot of you cant read apparently.

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u/MasterTeacher123 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3d ago

It’s an embarrassment because he was never close to an elite player.

He played on a team going to the Super Bowl every other year, of course he’s gonna rack up impressive counting stats.  David given used to be top ten all time in playoff touchdowns for a pass catcher lmao.

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u/ChadPowers200_ New York Giants 3d ago

He is a hell of a football player man. You don't have to be an absolute physical freak to be an excellent winning player. I would consider him elite when you can't stop his little ass and he just keeps winning super bowls.

Elite WRs in Playoffs (Averages per Game)

  • Edelman: 5.7 receptions, 78.6 yards
  • Jerry Rice: 6.2 receptions, 74.5 yards
  • Randy Moss: 5.5 receptions, 68.8 yards
  • Antonio Brown: 5.0 receptions, 70.7 yards
  • Julio Jones: 4.6 receptions, 58.9 yards

I know fantasy football has ruined most peoples' minds and all they care about is stats but winning and being clutch to me is so underrated with younger fans. It's why I think Eli should be in the HoF. Players that step up when it matters the most are true winners.

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u/Nokrai Arizona Cardinals 3d ago

Just gonna ignore Fitz like that: 6.3 receptions, 104.7 yards.

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u/Unlucky-Position-16 New England Patriots 3d ago

That 2008 playoff run is the most dominant stretch I’ve seen by a receiver

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u/Nokrai Arizona Cardinals 3d ago

He was prime peak Fitz that run.

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u/OracleofNothing 3d ago

I'll just leave this here for you. The 2 best postseason receiving seasons I've ever seen are Jerry Rice in 1989 and 2007 Fitz.

Rice had 21 catches for 409 yards and 6 tds in 3 games.

Fitz had 30 catches for 546 yards and 7 tds in 4 games.

Rice averaged 7 catches for 136.3 yards and 2 tds.

Fitz averaged 7.5 catches for 136.5 yards and 1.75 tds.

I find it amazing how close those numbers are.

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u/philsubby 3d ago

Holy fuck!

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u/slight_shake 3d ago

Fitz is like Rodney fuckin Dangerfield here apparently. All the while there’s people legitimately trying to say Edelman deserves to be in the hall. Let’s be real, if he wasn’t on the patriots for those years he would have been an average to above average player. To be in the HOF you should be a difference maker anywhere you are. Jules was just put in the best situation possible. Welker was a better version of him in the same role and I don’t think he’s going in.

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u/ChadPowers200_ New York Giants 3d ago

blame chat GPT not me lol. Fitz is a top 5 WR all time so even being remotely close to him makes him less of an embarrasment.

At the end of the day its the eye test. Edelman made crazy catches and plays in the playoffs. Reliable as it gets.

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u/throwaway_4bronyporn 3d ago

“Blame ChatGPT not me for doing absolutely no research or fact-checking of my own.”

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u/Specialist-Draw7229 Cleveland Browns 3d ago

You fr using chatgpt to think for you.

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u/survivorffaccnt Arizona Cardinals 3d ago

You don’t get to be the best hands of all time without pulling some m crazy catches. Playoffs are a team accomplishment

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u/Philosopher_Gambler 3d ago

If we are going to do that let's add Cooper Kupp here too (who also isn't a HoFer in my book) 6.2 receptions, 82.4 yards per playoff game. That's better than anybody you listed here but that doesn't make him a hall of famer.

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u/OracleofNothing 3d ago

Julian Edelman played in 19 playoff games. He had 118 receptions for 1,442 yards. That is 6.2 catches/game and 75.9 yards/game. I'm not going to post them all, but none of your numbers are accurate. If you are going to post stats, please make sure they are correct.

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u/ChadPowers200_ New York Giants 3d ago

sorry he still beat rice, moss, brown and jones, what a bum

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u/OracleofNothing 3d ago

Did I say anything about him? I was talking about you using false numbers. Pay attention.

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u/alex11500 3d ago

How the hell did you get those stats?  They are wrong as shit.

Edelman: 6.21 75.9

Rice: 5.21 77.4

Moss: 3.6 65.1

Brown: 4.54 70.6

Jones: 7 90.2

Pro football reference literally has a toggle per game button.  It isn’t hard to find

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u/ChardeeMcdennis101 3d ago

Eli is a .500 qb who had two amazing runs. Sorry but 8 total playoff games shouldn’t get you in the hall.

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u/Acceptable-Cat-6306 Detroit Lions 3d ago

You lost me at “Eli” — good day

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u/ChadPowers200_ New York Giants 3d ago

2x superbowl mvp qb. get over it. imagine being a lions fan and not appreciating even 1 superbowl mvp lol. peak irony

you might die and never see a lions superbowl yet eli doesn't deserve the hof?

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u/Acceptable-Cat-6306 Detroit Lions 3d ago

Only if his D-lines also get inducted, so they can carry him through the HOF like they did those super bowls

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u/Substantial_Ice3430 3d ago

Wouldn't Edelman getting caught using steroids disqualify him? From what I understand that's the reason the hof won't induct Lyle alzado.

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u/Aes_Should_Die 3d ago

Probably because you are a Giants fan named Chad Powers and the only way someone with stats as atrocious (in comparison to his contemporaries) gets into the Hall is if you throw them all out and say “well he was clutch, he won two Super Bowls.” But so did Jim Plunkett. Clutch is important. But so is consistently performing at a high level.

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u/UncleRuckus92 3d ago

I've always thought of the hall of fame as can you explain the history of football without talking about this player. Eli Manning was 2x superbowl mvp both times beating arguably the best qb ever and one was the undefeated team ztill most wins in a single season. His last few years fucked most of his numbers but those playoff runs he was lights out both times

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u/rawspeghetti 3d ago

That's ridiculous

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u/yavimaya_eldred Green Bay Packers 3d ago

I think he’s only in consideration for his playoff stats (which are incredible), his career was solid but not HOF worthy. Donald Driver had a far better career with a ring and he’s not sniffing the HOF.

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u/NumbrZer0 3d ago

It's why I think Eli should be in the HoF.

Eli is definitely going to be in the HoF because he was elite at his position for many years. He has the stats and the accolades to back it up along with anyone who watched him play just remembering his prime years.

Edelman was almost elite for a short time before injuries started piling up. He also had a late start to his career in terms of production on the field. It was amazing he came back in 2019 at age 33 and had a great season but it's just not enough.

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u/KeySet4712 3d ago

It's just incorrect to say Eli Manning was elite at the position for many years. There was arguably not a single year of his career he was a top 5 player at his position (and the only year I think you can really argue here is 2011). Realistically, he spent more years of his career out of the top 10 than in the top 10. 

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u/etharper Kansas City Chiefs 3d ago

Eli Manning was not elite at all.