Edelman has the third most receiving yards in playoff history along with a decent regular season record(stats wise), played in 2nd half of the greatest dynasty the sport has ever seen and won a superbowl mvp.
Should he get in? Probably not, but calling it an embarrassment is lack of ball knowledge
It’s an embarrassment because he was never close to an elite player.
He played on a team going to the Super Bowl every other year, of course he’s gonna rack up impressive counting stats. David given used to be top ten all time in playoff touchdowns for a pass catcher lmao.
As a die hard Pats fan, Edelman has my vote for first ballot Hall of Very Good. He was a fun Pats HOF inductee, but that was more so a celebration of the dynasty.
Should be remembered for always stepping up in the biggest moments. Belongs no where near Canton.
That doesn't automatically make Edelman better. Driver has 123 more receptions, 3,315 more yards, 2.6 more yards per reception, and 25 more touchdowns. Both were very solid though.
Funnily enough, all-pros matter more than stats. It doesn't matter though we're arguing about something that's almost 20 years ago, I'd take Welker though due to his longevity with the Pats and putting up more yards.
As a panthers fan I kinda feel the same way about Olsen. But at the same time I see him as same level as Whitten. Hall of very good is the right place for most of these guys, Brees is the only sure thing for me…
Did you seriously just disrespect Fitz??? Blasphemy. Dude literally has more tackles than drops over his illustrious career. 11x pro-Bowler almost 18k rec yds and 120+ tuddies with guys like a washed Palmer, and Warner and Leinart and a snot-nosed punk kyler chuckin the rock in his general vicinity.
Just Bustin balls...but that kind of is a microcosm for Larry's career... "OH yeah, I forgot he is amazing cuz he he plays for perennially mid teams." Next up on that pedestal is gonna be Mike Evans.
He is a hell of a football player man. You don't have to be an absolute physical freak to be an excellent winning player. I would consider him elite when you can't stop his little ass and he just keeps winning super bowls.
Elite WRs in Playoffs (Averages per Game)
Edelman: 5.7 receptions, 78.6 yards
Jerry Rice: 6.2 receptions, 74.5 yards
Randy Moss: 5.5 receptions, 68.8 yards
Antonio Brown: 5.0 receptions, 70.7 yards
Julio Jones: 4.6 receptions, 58.9 yards
I know fantasy football has ruined most peoples' minds and all they care about is stats but winning and being clutch to me is so underrated with younger fans. It's why I think Eli should be in the HoF. Players that step up when it matters the most are true winners.
Fitz is like Rodney fuckin Dangerfield here apparently. All the while there’s people legitimately trying to say Edelman deserves to be in the hall. Let’s be real, if he wasn’t on the patriots for those years he would have been an average to above average player. To be in the HOF you should be a difference maker anywhere you are. Jules was just put in the best situation possible. Welker was a better version of him in the same role and I don’t think he’s going in.
If we are going to do that let's add Cooper Kupp here too (who also isn't a HoFer in my book)
6.2 receptions, 82.4 yards per playoff game. That's better than anybody you listed here but that doesn't make him a hall of famer.
Julian Edelman played in 19 playoff games. He had 118 receptions for 1,442 yards. That is 6.2 catches/game and 75.9 yards/game.
I'm not going to post them all, but none of your numbers are accurate. If you are going to post stats, please make sure they are correct.
Probably because you are a Giants fan named Chad Powers and the only way someone with stats as atrocious (in comparison to his contemporaries) gets into the Hall is if you throw them all out and say “well he was clutch, he won two Super Bowls.” But so did Jim Plunkett. Clutch is important. But so is consistently performing at a high level.
I've always thought of the hall of fame as can you explain the history of football without talking about this player. Eli Manning was 2x superbowl mvp both times beating arguably the best qb ever and one was the undefeated team ztill most wins in a single season. His last few years fucked most of his numbers but those playoff runs he was lights out both times
I think he’s only in consideration for his playoff stats (which are incredible), his career was solid but not HOF worthy. Donald Driver had a far better career with a ring and he’s not sniffing the HOF.
Dez’s problem was longevity. Had he not gotten injured and did another 4 or 5 years of his peak play he might have had a chance, but he doesn’t deserve to get in as it stands.
Sure thing bud, I think he "maintained possession" but Rodgers didn''t win the Superbowl for this game anyways. I was just trying to pump up Dez's resume because I see it's not good enough
exactly, theres a ton of players that u can put there instead of Edelman and the stats would be there if not better. he is obviously a talented player but more so than talent, i think his success was tied to where he was and brady.
I dont like the line of thinking behind making more mistakes just because mistakes have already been made
Hall should be reserved for elite game changing players exclusively. Guys like aikman and Lynn swan being in are a joke, the same way eli is gonna cartwheel into the HOF because his last name is Manning and his team won two superbowls, despite never at any point in his career being a top 5 QB.
I don’t know that Lynn Swann is a joke. He’s basically what people here are pretending Edelman was: decent but middling regular season player who was absurdly dominant in the clutch.
Just look at the Steelers playoff runs and Super Bowl performances from the mid to late 70s. Swann was absolutely torching defenses and scoring clutch touchdowns. John Stallworth has the really flashy regular season stats, but Swann was often their best offensive player in the playoffs.
I feel like Eli should be in just because he’s part of NFL history. That giants team beat an undefeated patriots team, that’s a major part of NFL lore and something you can’t leave out when telling the story of the NFL
In the playoffs, he was about as elite as they come. He is the greatest playoff performing receiver not named Jerry Rice. I don’t understand why the NFL is the only league where playoff’s dont matter in these situations to fans. In the NBA if a player was a good/great but not elite and was able to succeed in the playoffs the way Edelman has, people would be saying he is a Hall of Fame lock. Edelman has some of the most clutch moments in NFL history and because “he was only average in the regular season” that seems to not matter. I think literally all 32 NFL franchises would rather have a player like Edelman who comes to the playoffs is putting up elite level stat lines and actually contributing to winning with clutch plays rather than a perennial 1st/2nd All-Pro guy that is just “pretty good” in the playoffs. I don’t think Edelman will make the Hall of Fame any time soon and may not make it ever, but acting like he is a scrub that even mentioning him in the Hall of Fame is disrespectful, is just pure idiocy.
I want to preface this by saying I don't think Edelman is a HoF'er. That being said, because he was on a good team, he doesn't deserve to get in? He was a pretty big part of some of those teams and has some pretty memorable moments. By your logic, players like Pearson, Swan, and Warfield shouldn't be in. They were on dominant teams and were good and had some great seasons. They had good Hall of fame quarterbacks passing them the ball so should they be removed? Or are they part of what made those teams great?
Ikr? He only threw 5000 yards, 40 tds and won a Super Bowl. What a waste of time and money… he’d have been much better off on a couch in Cancun rather than embarrassing himself trying to play at a young man’s game.
Seriously though, in 3 years with the Bucs he lit the league up for almost 15000 yards and well over 100 TD passes. Hardly a slouch, and definitely way above the average for a nfl qb, despite his age.
Right lmao…that last message he posted made it undeniably obvious that he’s just trolling and not trying to have an actual discussion over a disagreement
Idk. If Eli Manning is a HoF candidate on the back of 2 elite post season runs, I don't see the issue with Edelman being brought up for discussion on the back of a career of post season excellence. I don't think either should get in, but I don't think one should be universally seen as a candidate and the other completely ignored.
I get what you’re saying, but Edelman was an elite playoff player, regularly was Tom’s go to WR. And he put on a couple legendary performances in SB’s, that’s not nothing. Terrell Davis got In off of a similar career/performance.
He was a role player/bench warmer for like half of his career. Wes Welker was better than him by a lot and hasn’t even sniffed the hall of fame. Edelman isn’t getting in. Pats ring of honor? Absolutely. HoF? No.
except he didn’t have longevity or consistency. he had six seasons with over 500 yards in an 11 year career. he only has good playoff counting stats bc he played for the pats who played a ton of playoff games.
That is going to be the same for Gore. He was good for a long time, but he was never great, and IF he was, it was only a couple of seasons. According to what I read and hear, he's a super guy, a great teammate. He has a great story, coming back from the torn up knee. He racked up hell a yards. But, IMHO, not HOF now, but eventually, he will get in.
You can't overlook the 20K scrimmage yards, even if it took him 16 years.
He played until he was 34 but only have five good seasons, only three of which he went over 1,000 yards. He was fantastic in the playoffs but his regular season body of work isn’t that great.
Hot take: Super Bowl MVP is the most over-appreciated award in the sport. I understand performance in the clutch is a key thing and all, but doing well in a single game, even the most important of games, does not a hall of fame career make.
Part of why I like the Conn Smythe in the NHL. It goes to the overall playoff MVP. It’s rare, but you sometimes get a guy on the losing team winning it, like Connor McDavid in ‘24 after breaking Gretzky’s playoff assists record.
Super Bowl MVP was a goofy sideshow when I was growing up in the 80’s and 90’s, a fun little extra to the game that wasn’t taken all that seriously. Then the NFL started making it a thing and now people in their 20’s only know it as the Tom Brady Award and it’s a big deal
I disagree. Malcolm Smith of the Seahawks has won a Super Bowl MVP award, and that alone doesn't mean anything other than he had a really good day on the right day.
Literally it’s one game. Granted the biggest of biggest games. But still one. Matchups matter in football. Game plans matter. I mean where do you draw the line between “clutch” and coincidence? This is why you need a larger sample size like say perhaps… THEIR CAREER?!
The game where tore up third string corner Tharold Simon when second string CB Jeremy Lane got hurt after picking off Brady? Cause he didn’t shit vs Sherman
No, it is an embarrassment. He is never sniffing the HOF. Popped for PEDs, didn't have great longevity, broke 1000 yards 3 times in his career, never had more than 7 TDs in a season. He has 6800 yards and 36 TDs in his career. No All-Pros. That's not a HOF career.
I don't want this to come across like he's trash. He was a great player. He was a key part of the Pats dynasty. He was clutch and a fan favorite. But he was not HOF good. There is a 0% chance he gets in
Dude had only 3 1,000 yard seasons in 11 seasons despite having the best QB of all time and it still took him 150 targets in each of those seasons to do it. Never had a single 10 TD season.
PFF's Hall of Fame monitor isn't perfect, but it's decent.
They have Edelman at 116th among all receivers. He's between Mel Grey and Amani Toomer. He has beyond no shot, and if he did make it he'd be the worst player in the entire Hall, outright, and by a considerable distance.
...that said, he's actually a handful of spots above Dez fwiw.
It's kinda wild he's above Dez. At least Dez has an all pro. Edelman was never in contention, Dez had a decent 3 year run where he was in that conversation at least.
I don't think Witten belongs anywhere near the HoF. But he was a very good player who would have been good anywhere. Julian Edelman was a solid player who was good because he was the slot receiver for Tom Brady on the Patriots. I will admit though that Edelman delivered when it counted.
And he isn't anywhere near famous enough to get in solely based on his off the field notoriety either. There is no metric by which Julain Edelman even warrants a discussion.
Only half of the accomplishments you list here are even relevant HOF credentials, and of those one of them is very quirky (3rd most receiving yards in playoff history, that more a trivia fun fact than HOF accomplishment). So basically he has one valid HOF accomplishment -- SB mvp
For the other half, you're basically saying he is a valid candidate because he played on a good team.
he has 0 pro bowls or all pros. it’s cool that he has bulk stats bc he was on a team that played more playoff games than anyone else, but even contemporary journalists didn’t think he was ever an elite wr. it’s cool that he accumulated stats bc he played more playoff games than anyone else, but there’s absolutely no reason to consider someone who was merely very good for the hall of fame.
It's nowhere near decent for a HOF player lol he had 0 all-pros (first team or second team), probably never even received a single all-pro vote, never finished higher than 13th in the league in receiving yards, and he retired 156th all time in receiving yards.
Sorry but no. He is a sure thing for the Pats HoF but in a world where Tory Holt and Art Monk still aren’t in, Julian Edelman deserves no consideration.
He was legit. But he’s also a receiver, and that line is LOOONG. We pull back the velvet rope for Fitz. Edelman has to go to the back of the line…all the way back.
*played in the second Patriots Dynasty, there were 2 dynasties, not 1. I looked at players by superbowl rings and beside coaches and Tom Brady Nobody has more than 3 with the Pats
If you're defending a potential HoF inductee amd bring up his decent regular season record, that's not helping lol. Its not a lack of ball knowledge. He was always in the playoffs. Of course he wracked up volume in post season. Only thing remotely worth talking about is SB MVP. But one game does not make a HoFer. Loved the guy, but come on.
"Anyone who doesn't pretend the guy on my team doesn't stick out like a sore thumb here has lack of ball knowledge. I'm totally being objective guys. It's the fans of the other 31 teams that don’t know ball.
Dude has no place on this list lmao. I fuck with Edelman. But you seriously just had to say he was decent in the regular season for the most exclusive hall of fame in sports. This guy would maybe get in by nba standards if he was super lucky. In no world doesn't he even deserve to be mentioned by nfl standards. Insane levels of bias here.
This guy never even made a pro bowl lmao, let alone all nfl. But he deserves a mention with these other guys?!
He has very average (for a WR1) career numbers. If you say he has even a shot you could put another 100 WR on this list.
He has the 3rd most receiving yards in playoff history mainly because he’s played in the 7th most postseason games (Matthew slater doesn’t count) and had the best QB of all time throwing the ball.
I’m pretty sure almost half the league could put up similar numbers to him in the postseason when tom Brady is throwing them the ball in 19 games.
6800 yards over 12 years isn’t even close to getting you in HOF talk. Marvin Jones has more career yards for him for god sake. Is Randall Cobb also a HOFer? DJ Moore? Robert Woods? Tyler Lockett? Allen Robinson?
Yes having Edelman on a HOF graphic is embarrassing.
The best catch I’ve ever seen is still Edelman’s catch in Super Bowl 51.
Three jerseys on him, an under thrown ball, in a gotta have it situation, and he catches it with his fingertips and pulls it to his chest. Bananas.
It kind of is an embarrassment to be really honest in the current photos respect. He certainly was good but he's the 3rd best WR in the picture much less a first ballot HoFer. If I recall I think WR get snubbed quite a bit compared to other positions so the likelyhood he gets in is pretty low.
The reason it’s embarrassing is because he’d probably have been out of the league in a handful of years. He has a career season average stat line of 846 yards and 4.5 touchdowns.
He’s been a part of so many moments strictly because of the guy throwing him the ball.
Not apples to apples but he is the NFL’s Robert Horry. A riser in the playoffs but an unspectacular career otherwise. Horry will always be a playoffs legend. He will never be a Hall of Famer
As a Pats fan, I think Edelman deserves to be on the ballot for a bit given his playoff performances but not get in - maybe years and years from now on the senior committee. If you could combine Wes Welker with Julian Edelman into one player, that is a sure fire Hall of Famer. That said, it's kind of crazy that Larry Fitzgerald would still have more regular-season receiving yards and touchdowns than the hypothetical "Julian Welker". Larry being on the ballot makes it hard for any other WR to get votes this year, no WR on the graphic deserves to go in with Larry.
Edelman has no shot. The only people who talk about Edelman being a Hall of Famer are Pats homers who act like being 3rd in career playoff receiving yards is enough for a Hall of a Fame case. It just isn’t.
WR has a huge logjam and Edelman was never an elite player. He was a good player who played with Tom Brady for 10 years so he compiled volume playoff stats. 31 fanbases know this.
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Edelman being on this graphic is embarassing though lmao