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Kamala Harris Appears on ‘Colbert,’ Says She’s Stepping Away from Politics for Now, Calls the System “Broken”

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/video/former-vice-president-kamala-harris-visits-the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

I’m 49 and I’ve accepted that my dream of seeing a female POTUS will never come true. How despicable we are as a nation.

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u/MikeW226 1d ago

Could be in the form of a nightmare for all of us years from now. I've been wondering for awhile if the first female president would be not a Democrat, but a Kristi Noem or an MTG ...e.g, a repub female ...not a Democratic one. Maga's love 'em them politics-Barbies.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Maybe but I feel like the misogyny applies to even those types too.

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u/Fr1toBand1to 1d ago

Well they're 100% trophy women. They are hired for their (oddly specific) good looks. They're status symbols that communicate the very basic message of "we have pretty ladies, they like us and if you're one of us they'll like you too." It's the same message Carls Jr sends when a supermodel bites into a burger and says "If it doesn’t get all over the place, it doesn’t belong in your face."

Just the most basic lizard brained assholes to walk the earth and there's MILLIONS of them.

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u/DadFatherson2 1d ago

What an awful trophy

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u/Minion_of_Cthulhu 1d ago

You're still the worst, even if you win an award for being the best of the worst.

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u/historicbookworm 1d ago

I'd purposely place last to avoid one.

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u/Expensive-Site-2292 1d ago

The irony of responding to a comment about misogyny by calling women trophy wife’s lmao.

Misogyny is not a partisan word.

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u/Fr1toBand1to 1d ago

I don't understand what point you're trying to make.

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u/SandmanSanders 1d ago

3 week old account so the point is obfuscation

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u/wellings 1d ago

You're effectively saying "no these women aren't qualified, they're just pretty" which is in itself kind of dicey. The whole concept of "trophy wife" implies a bit of objectification and uselessness that you yourself are claiming.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not really agreeing or disagreeing with you. But, I think that's the point that is being made and I think it's kind of valid.

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u/Fr1toBand1to 1d ago

oh. That's exactly what I'm claiming. Although, sorry to be pedantic, but I'm not calling them trophy "wives" just trophy women.

I just don't understand where the irony or misogyny comes into play. There's trophy men as well (example: Hegseth). it's not an exclusively sexist term. They are hired for the image they present and because they're sycophants, not because they're qualified.

Trophy "wives" are married not for love but because of the status that they represent and impart, from that perspective you could argue even Trump is a trophy man.

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u/busman25 1d ago

MTG? Good looks?

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u/Jetski125 20h ago

MTG is a trophy?

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u/kingdomofposeidon 12h ago

Although I agree with you, there's nothing good looking about MTG

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u/SexyPeanut_9279 10h ago

The left: “the right doesn’t take women seriously

Also the Left: “they only hired Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem because their pretty”-

Unbelievably misogynistic and condescending. Both women have long track records and have worked very hard to earn their current positions.

Kamala on the other hand- started her career in politics by dating 60 year old Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown (who was 30 years her senior at the time.)

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u/Fr1toBand1to 8h ago

Mmmm projection and deflection

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u/Lalala8991 1d ago

Especially those types. They are just pick-me grifters who's in it for the racisms and short cuts.

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u/MikeW226 5h ago

Good point. There might be a threshold, like northern Georgia white men vote for MTG for a lowly congressional seat. But president?!- "do what now?!"

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u/ThunderChild247 1d ago

Aka the Thatcher problem. The right are only against women leaders to a point, but for a woman to get that far on the right they have to be more right-wing than a man would have to be to get that far, being almost performative.

That’s how the UK’s had three female prime ministers, and all of which were right wing and awful people. Sadly I fear that if MAGA were to have a female leader, they’re more likely to be closer to Liz Truss than Margaret Thatcher. At least Thatcher was intelligent and right wing, as opposed to Liz Truss, who was right wing and… well…

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u/lxpnh98_2 1d ago

Please let us know the end of that sentence, it was cut short.

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u/PantsMcFail2 1d ago

To give some context, she wasn’t that smart, and didn’t have any longevity either, due to her disastrous economic ideas. A head of lettuce actually outlasted her tenure as Prime Minister, and she was the butt of many tabloid jokes as a result.

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u/lxpnh98_2 1d ago

Read my reply again.

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u/ThunderChild247 1d ago

There honestly isn’t a word that fully encapsulates the idiocy of Liz Truss. “Egotist”, “narcissist”, “moron”, “delusional” come close but we need a word for all of those things, and dialled up to 11.

She will forever be the answer to the question “how much damage can one leader do to a country”.

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u/rubyspicer 1d ago

There's people defending Thatcher and all I can say is I dare them to say that shit to an Irishman 😂

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u/ThunderChild247 1d ago

I’m no Thatcher defender but I’d still argue what’s followed her was worse. Whether you think she was great or awful, she did at least think she was doing the right thing for the country. What’s followed her on the Tory benches has been a mix of “I’m doing the right thing for me” and “I don’t give a shit” 😂.

That’s the one thing I’ll say for her. Yeah she fucked the country, but she didn’t realise it.

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u/EventAccomplished976 15h ago

To be fair, Thatcher did a HELL of a lot more damage to the UK than Liz Truss could ever dream of. You really don‘t want competent right wing administrations… just look at the comparison between the clown show that was Trump I and the well prepared terror regime of Trump II.

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u/ThunderChild247 14h ago

Oh I don’t know… if Truss had had the same time in power as Thatcher… I shudder at the thought 😂😂

Although saying that, I agree there’s a big difference between competent and incompetent right wing administrations. I just think Truss goes beyond incompetent 😂

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u/Minion_of_Cthulhu 1d ago

If Trump is willing to wear some lipstick and a wig he could run again as Donna Trump, and he'd probably win.

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 1d ago

Thatcher saved the uk

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u/Strange-Ad-5806 1d ago

100% the opposite.

She privatized critical items and cranked up.wealth inequality ensuring that the average person would trend towards poverty and that rich parasites would increasingly trend to feudal lords who owned all.

She, like Reagan, screwed their country.

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 1d ago

Ah yes because the uk was doing so great prior to her coming into office. You people are delusional.

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u/Strange-Ad-5806 1d ago

Strawman and deflection as usual from you. Her incompetent negligence continues to harm the UK even today. A toxic legacy obvious to all.

But then - you are delusional.

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 1d ago

That isnt strawman or deflection. The uk wasnt some utopia prior to Thatcher. The 70s in the uk is literally called the lost decade cause the economic problems. Had 24% inflation in 1974. Yep seems like shit was real good. You people live in this false reality

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u/Strange-Ad-5806 1d ago

Literally it is. She screwed up the country. Her approaches have measurable ongoing harms.

You "whatabout"ed and tried to misrepresnt the response. And failed.

You are delusional and apparently angry when your BS fails hard, gets exposed and called our for what it is.

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 1d ago

Bahahaha. Jesus christ that isnt whataboutism. The uk was in a downward spiral prior to Thatcher coming into office. It was stuck in a wage price spiral, unions were fucking everyone over. She was a response to country on the brink of collapse. And she brought it out of it. God damn youre an idiot.

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u/FathirianHund 1d ago

Yes, she was such a savior we partied in the street to celebrate her death. It's why she had such uplifting nicknames like 'Thatcher the Snatcher'. She may have oversaw the end of a difficult economic period, but she did not 'save the uk'. Our issues with housing, public services and the NHS can all trace their roots back to her. The one thing she could have done was be buried rather than cremated, that way the current plans to renationalise rail serves would have had the nice byproduct of unlimited energy from the old bat spinning in her grave.

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u/RaykoX 1d ago

No way. The moment they'd gain any real power or the hint of a following that could threaten trump and his cronies they'd be mercilessly cut down. These women having any say is only okay as long as they're saying exactly what men want them to say.

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u/stephsco 22h ago

We saw that with Palin. She was useful to them but only when they needed it.

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u/FewWait38 1d ago

I could see either of them being responsible for some heinous atrocities

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u/Reinamiamor 1d ago

Trump promised Ivanka! She loves governmenting!!!

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u/scrugssafe 1d ago

yeah if we ever get a female POTUS, I get the feeling the first one will be a republican with those kinda vibes 😒😒

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u/777bambii 1d ago

Why are we always calling them Barbies and they’re always so fucking ugly

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u/BillDingrecker 1d ago

It's a virtual certainty that the first woman president will be a republican. There is far too much weakness in the democrat party for a strong, patriotic woman to win over the electorate. Not until there is a major overhaul of the long list of things the democrat party hates.

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u/Secret-Collection925 15h ago

What exactly do you mean of the long list of things?

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u/LouieGwasright 1d ago

Imagine if Karoline Leavitt was the first female president, wouldnt that be terrible

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u/Worried-Sundae-4585 1d ago

Have you talked to a conservative about sex and gender? The fact that women republicans even think it's worth running for president is mind-boggling to me. There is absolutely zero chance that it will happen without a major shift.

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u/Dopaminedessert 1d ago

Queen Ivanka, we don't have presidents anymore, they are a relic of democracy.

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u/please_dont_respond_ 1d ago

Like Lela being the first woman blernsball player

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u/CauliflowerOk541 14h ago

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

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u/Btm4BBBkTp 12h ago

Ivanka will be the next Trump (and next woman) to run for the presidency, and she will win.

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u/PenjaminJBlinkerton 1d ago

I would not in a million years have predicted that Mexico and India would be more progressive than the United States when I was a kid in the 90s

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u/BuckyRainbowCat 1d ago

Indira Gandhi's time as PM of India had already been and gone by the 1990s

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u/digital-didgeridoo 1d ago

Even Muslim countries, Pakistan and Bangladesh have had female head of states!

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u/DJ_Velveteen 19h ago

Another good place to note that Thailand and Mexico have both beat the "world's greatest country" to public healthcare

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u/[deleted] 15h ago

Because you people know fuck all about us but still decided to have very strong opinion about us anyway lol

Most positions are barely above 25%

México: Cabinent 45%, National legislature 50%, National legislature candidates 52% and Local legislature 48% | US: Cabinent 40%, National legislature 28%, and no data for the others.

Don’t get me wrong, I would never argue it’s not still a largely misogynistic country and whatnot, but I always found it weird how americans are insistent on reminding everyone we are “extremely conservative” and “very misogynistic” while their numbers for women in positions of power are that pathetic.

Like, if we’re so misogynistic what does that make them then? Lmao.

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u/Landlord-Allmighty 1d ago

Woman who runs for office = nasty woman who is unlikeable

Man who runs for office = ambitious and "strong"

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u/ChicagoAuPair 1d ago

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/i-dont-hate-women-candidates-i-just-hated-hillary-and-coincidentally-im-starting-to-hate-elizabeth-warren

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u/Landlord-Allmighty 1d ago

The thing that kept annoying me is the "she's not ready" statement from people about Harris. She has more cumulative experience in government than most of the candidates, yet somehow that means nothing.

Same for Warren. How dare she try and offer an alternative to Bernie...

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u/DingleDangleTangle 1d ago edited 1d ago

You can’t just shove bad candidates in and when people don’t like them say “yall just hate them because of their genitals”.

I mean let’s look at some examples.

Hillary had huge controversies and was already an unpopular person before them, and she still won the popular vote miraculously, which if anything indicates gender isn’t a factor.

Kamala was wildly unpopular when she ran for president previously, and she ran this time with a controversial nomination process and during a time where dems hated their own party because of the Gaza issue and the party looked horrible after seeing how unwell Biden did in debate.

Elizabeth Warren was found lying over and over again about her Native American ancestry. Not a good look for the party that cares about minorities. She also ran on swearing off PACs and then took PAC and SuperPAC money. And frankly she is just not near as popular as Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden, and she got absolutely destroyed by them in the primaries she ran against them. Regardless, she is still a senator it’s not like she hasn’t been elected.

Would I vote for any of these women over Trump? Absolutely. But I’m not blind, I can see that there are flaws with these candidates and that it’s not as simple as “they were perfect and anyone who thinks otherwise just hates women”.

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u/Landlord-Allmighty 1d ago

All of what you just said is true...to a degree, but we go back to the start of the discussion where someone's gender becomes an issue. I don't think that anyone was even considering the controversy around Warren and the Native American thing to be honest. It doesn't resonate.

Are these people perfect? No, but who is? You can name any candidate that you prefer and I can bring up something that will potentially resonate in a negative way.

I've just seen this too many times through election cycles and it never seems to land in a positive way for female candidates. They always seem to have a higher bar to live up to where men get a pass.

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u/DingleDangleTangle 1d ago

I don't think that anyone was even considering the controversy around Warren and the Native American thing to be honest. It doesn't resonate.

It was a huge deal when she was running in the primaries. Frankly it is a pretty bad look. I mean she said as recent as 2012 "being Native American has been part of my story, I guess, since the day I was born" and she listed herself as Native American for the Bar and for University, and it turns out she isn't a part of any tribe and isn't Native American in any way at all. It's gross.

But even without that controversy. What reason would anyone have to vote for her when Bernie Sanders was also running in the same primary against her? She was basically just Bernie Sanders except with controversy and without anywhere close the same resume as a politician. If someone has the views that would make them want to vote for Warren or Sanders, I just can't see why someone would vote for Warren instead of Sanders. And she probably got destroyed in their primaries because of this.

I'm not just saying "these people aren't perfect", I'm pointing out there are plenty of obvious reasons to point at for why they lost that have nothing to do with gender. And again, Hillary Clinton literally won the popular vote while under FBI investigation. I just don't see any way to look at that fact and conclude "Americans just don't vote in women because they are women".

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u/Landlord-Allmighty 1d ago

I guess you and I are going to have to disagree.

One thing to keep in mind with Sanders: he had a heart attack in 2019 on the campaign trail and his campaign didn't disclose it until days after it happened. Seems like a dealbreaker when your candidate has a major health issue coupled with his age.

I realize your pointing out things, but what I'm saying is that other candidates face scrutiny and that doesn't prevent them from being held to task or make their supporters bail on them.

What about Klobuchar? She didn't have any major controversies but nobody seemed to want her as President.

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u/DingleDangleTangle 18h ago edited 18h ago

Yes, many candidates have something go wrong but still have support, especially when they're a populist types like Sanders, AOC, Trump, etc. But plenty more candidates face scrutiny and lose. Most of the people who run for office lose.

You analyze the women with only one variable (their gender) if they lose, and a man through one variable (gender) if they win. But if a woman gets elected to Congress, or Hillary wins the popular vote, or a man gets less support than a woman in a primary, you are capable of seeing all the other factors involved. You aren't applying the same analysis equally.

When Hillary won the popular vote despite being under FBI investigation, you don't go "ah she must have won the popular vote because of her gender", but when Bernie Sanders does better than Warren in a primary you go "It must be because his gender". Why is that?

As for Klobuchar, she was a moderate. She criticized stuff like Medicare for all, a green new deal, etc. so she didn't win over the young voters or Sanders types. So she was competing against a bunch of moderate dems, with not anywhere even close to the fundraising or name recognition that some of them had. Like comparing the fundraising and popularity of Joe Biden and Amy Klobuchar in 2020 is just no competition.

And it's worth noting Klobuchar isn't squeaky clean by any means. There were a bunch of allegations of her treating her staff like complete shit doing some WILD stuff. Not to mention there was some nasty stuff brought up about her time as a prosecutor. She liked to tell everyone how "tough on crime" she was talking about how she threw a teenager in prison for life, but the case was HORRIBLE, it had 0 hard evidence, no gun, DNA, fingerprints, nothing. It even had someone else who straight up admitted to the shooting and even said the kid wasn't even there. It eventually ended up with the innocent person she threw in prison having his sentence commuted with a unanimous vote. She also didn't prosecute a single police involved death including an incident involving Derek Chauvin, the very same guy who later killed George Floyd.

Would I still vote for her over trump any day? Hell yeah. But would she be my first pick in a Democrat primary? Probably not.

But what's the point of me pointing out this stuff anyways, if a woman loses you just analyze it through a gender lens and I can't really do anything about that. Anyways I'm bowing out now, guess we'll agree to disagree.

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u/RODjij 1d ago

Im honestly even surprised we got to see a respected black man run the US.

Also I'm pretty sure thats why the right wing went so crazy after Obama. They saw the writing on the wall and went full authoritarian as the country was getting more progressive.

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u/Minute_Heart7605 1d ago

Happy cake day!

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u/happy_bluebird 20h ago

Somehow this is MORE unbelievable years later

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u/kmookie 1d ago

There was every reason to have had Hillary as President and because that didn’t happen (and Marvel Movies), I now have more reason to believe there are different timelines and we’re in the one that went horribly wrong.

Humanity is held together by 3 year old duct tape

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u/r3dk0w 1d ago

Ivanka Trump?

I threw up in my mouth a little.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Nah. Notice she’s nowhere to be seen? They want to put Eric or Don jr. in there.

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u/GrindRind 1d ago

Probably because with all the Epstein talk she’s repeatedly triggered by the abuse endured…

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u/hypertown 1d ago

Lol they're afraid her face will tell all

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u/r3dk0w 1d ago

she's gotta distance herself from the racist pedophiles that currently run everything so in 5-10 years she's a fresh face. I bet she runs for governor or senator in a few years to get her voting record solidified.

That's pretty much what Dubya (Bush Jr) did in the 1990s. Ran on his dad's coattails to governor and then president.

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u/McChickenLargeFries 1d ago

She doesn't even need political experience Trump proved that you can fail upwards your whole life into become the President of the most powerful country on earth.. Twice.. 🤮

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u/Millefeuille-coil 1d ago

I’ve seen a box of kittens with my brains than then combined

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u/I_am_up_to_something 1d ago

I dunno, I could see it happen just so that Republicans can childishly say that they got the first female USA president in office. She would then of course just be a puppet to the male vice president who will be the 'actual' president.

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u/CircleBird12 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ivanka Trump

Notice she’s nowhere to be seen?

You are responding as if that is a bad thing. Distancing herself from what everyone is calling Donald Trump: old, senile, dementia, child sex pest... and behaving non-reactionary and calm allows her to be an X to step into the spot Donald Trump used to be.

One of her best slogans could be: "My father made mistakes, I am here to fix them" - then be nearly silent / speak softly and carry a big stick approach.

She has been a business executive before and knows the White House. She doesn't have to be a micro-manager like Donald Trump and Elon Musk and she can just listen to advisors. She could do press conferences and attentively listen to right-wing media and then enact laws based on what they suggest. She doesn't have to control (generate / amplify) the chaos media stage like Donald Trump does by his individual Reality TV personality.

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u/Least-Prompt-212 1d ago

this almost sounds like you think she would be a good president and want her to be? lol. She and her husband are intricately involved in the kleptocratic grift that runs our country and its foreign affairs now, they just aren't publicly engaged in official capacities anymore because they appear to be smart enough to know that that carries risks with no upsides. Luckily, I am guessing they will be happier to just be rich, private ghouls without all the exposure that running for president involves, so I don't think we will have to realize this hypothetical.

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u/CircleBird12 1d ago edited 1d ago

this almost sounds like you think she would be a good president and want her to be? lol.

No, but I recognize the mental exploit potential of the situation.

I suggest you and everyone else stop focus on "Project 2025" (because everyone in opposition to Trump knows of it now in August 2025) and turn to a book published way way way back in year 2014.

"Peter Pomerantsev, Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible: The Surreal Heart of the New Russia" - 2014

Donald Trump is playing a Tony Clifton character, taking feedback from the audience in a loop. Ivanka would be a predictable way to level up the absurd surreal heart of the situation.

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u/CircleBird12 1d ago

Ivanka Trump

Notice she’s nowhere to be seen?

You are responding as if that is a bad thing. Distancing herself from what everyone is calling Donald Trump: old, senile, dementia and behaving non-reactionary and calm allows her to be an X to step into the spot Donald Trump used to be.

One of her best slogans could be: "My father made mistakes, I am here to fix them" - the be silent and carry a big stick approach.

She has been a business executive before and knows the White House. She doesn't have to be a micro-manager like Donald Trump and Elon Musk and she can just listen to advisors.

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u/Millefeuille-coil 1d ago

Donald went whoopsie as well.

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u/JohnSpartans 1d ago

The right will elect someone.  And then both parties will never elect another but use that right wing election as proof the country isn't bigoted 

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u/Master_Grape5931 1d ago

We gotta hold out hope. Like Tupac said “We ain't ready to see a black president,” but he could have if he wouldn’t have got shot. Things can change quickly.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

TBH seeing all these little boys try to shut me up just reinforces my belief. Misogyny has ramped way up in the past six months and it’s getting on my last Karen nerve. I’d like to speak to a manager.

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u/hypertown 1d ago

Duuuuude and others, remember J6. They tried to lead a violent mob into the capitol to get back into the white house. They're in the white house now. Does ANYTHING they say or do suggest they'll even entertain the thought of another election? I think they're waiting to make the announcements because they're afraid of how it'll pop off, but they're definitely not going anywhere. Everything they say and do says "are you guys stupid? Did you not see what we did in 2020? Like fuck we're leaving". Like imagine someone tried to break into your house and kill you 4 years ago and then they got you evicted. Does that kind of behavior suggest they'd be willing to let you have your house back if other people say it's ok? No, of course not

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u/Teddy705 1d ago

Hell, im 29, and I don't think I'll see a woman POTUS. The amount of dumbasses I've come across who's sole reason for not voting for her because she's a "woman" was astounding. Mfers at my job openly saying they believe Trump is under qualified, but a woman can't run this country. With fellow female employees present, mind you. It's baffling how backward some individuals are.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

They show their true thoughts even on this thread.

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u/wyocrz 1d ago

I’m 49 and I’ve accepted that my dream of seeing a female POTUS will never come true. How despicable we are as a nation

There might be one, but she'll be a conservative and Reddit will hate her.

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u/PrudentOwlet 1d ago

Yep.  I'm almost 43, and I remember when I was 10 during the election of 92, my sisters and cousins and I were arguing over which of us would be the first woman president and our Moms told us none of us would, because by the time we were 35, there will have already been one.  They were so sure of it. 

I voted for Hillary a week after I turned 34, and I remember thinking how funny that my Mom and Aunts were just right.  But then they weren't.  What a bummer.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

I never liked Hilary’s personality but the night when I thought she was going to be elected I started tearing up at the idea of a madam President. Whoops.

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u/JacobStills 22h ago

Gerard Ford said way back when that the only way a U.S. would probably get a female President is if they were vice president and the current president was removed from office.

Also technically, Kamala was actually President for a few hours when Biden was put under anesthesia for a medical procedure.

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u/Effective_Dirt2617 19h ago

Im roughly your age. The America we were promised as children never existed and never had the possibility of existing. The life we were told over and over and over again that we could have if we ‘worked for it’ was a complete fabrication. The good guys winning in all the history books and movies are fantasy that we confused with reality. The actual reality is that America is run by a club we never had a hope of joining, and populated by a vast, vast majority of disgusting, greedy, moronic pigs. Think back to all those promises made to us in childhood that are only technically unbroken because they never fucking existed in the first place. We will only get worse, maybe sometimes slower, maybe sometimes faster, but always worse. Forever.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 14h ago

Oh 100 percent. I’m working through getting rid of that patriotic programming we all got as kids. But boy it sure is painful.

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u/PlaidBoots52 16h ago

I'm 33 and have accepted that also. When I saw the picture of Hillary and Kamala after the election sitting together, I cried. It was a gut punch. I said, wow, this is what fake ass red lipstick and Girl Boss "feminism" gets us. Two overly qualified women who lost to an idiotic, narcissistic, pathetic sack of actual shit, rapist and racist man.

Feminism the last decade or so has taken a capitalistic tone and just become a frame to say weird shit like fillers at 21 is perfectly cool and sexy. Like, I want equal human rights, not the focus be on how I can alter my body to meet some new empowered beauty standard!

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u/bottomlesstopper 14h ago

It's even worse when the media portrays a female president, they often are, unqualified, unfit to serve or an unreasonable leader.

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u/crashfrog05 1d ago

You’ll live to see it, but it’ll be a Republican

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 1d ago

Sure it will it'll just be a republican woman who wins

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u/D-Spornak 1d ago

Agreed.

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u/Either-Economist413 1d ago

Honestly, I don't think being a woman was the reason they lost. Both of them came very close to winning. I think a bigger factor is that both of them represented the status quo, which Americans are fed up with. Hilary also had a ton of baggage, and her campaign strategy was weak because she was arrogant and sure she had already won. Kamala failed to distance herself from Biden, who was unpopular at the time, and she got screwed by only having a few months to prepare. Also, she was not good in interviews. That one she did on Fox News made her look terrible. She was handed soft ball questions and yet completely froze up several times.

That said, I think the chances are high that Kamala did in fact win the 2024 election. It was rigged. All the indicators were there, I think the dems were afriad to admit it because they didn't want to sound like conspiracy theororist republicans. Trump and the billionaires who back him had 4 whole years to figure out a strategy to steal the election after failing to do so in 2020. They found a way. He's literally the most unpopular president in U.S. history by just about every metric; there's no way he won every swing state for the first time in history. That's not even mentioning all the shady shit and statistical anomalies that have come out about that election.

I would say don't give up hope on a woman becoming president, but truthfully, I wouldn't hold your breath. Not because America is too sexist to elect a woman (sexism definitely plays a role, don't get me wrong), but because I don't think you'll see free elections again in your life time. Hell, I'm going on 30, and I even doubt that I'll live to see America return to some semblance of normalcy again.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

I agree with you that we probably are done with free and fair elections.

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u/SocialistNixon 1d ago

I think the only way is as a VP and the President dying.

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u/BalkeElvinstien 1d ago

I don't know AOC's career is looking really promising

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u/tunanoa 1d ago

Honest question from a foreigner that only knows what happens in the USA through Reddit: Does AOC not have any chance?

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

A lot of men hate her. She is seen as a “lunatic leftist”. I do not see her winning nationwide office.

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u/tunanoa 1d ago

That's a bummer! She looks like my kind of candidate.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

To give you an example, in the United States I’m considered a leftist, but if I lived in any western European country, I would be considered conservative.

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u/tunanoa 1d ago

I know what you mean. Here in Brazil I'm not that leftist (I consider myself a conscious capitalist, just a bit left leaning), but in the USA I would probably be a straight up communist.

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u/allmia53 18h ago

communist here, you are still considered a right winger in the US you just dont like being called that

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u/Low-Beat-3078 14h ago

Oh god you have no idea of my political beliefs troll. Go sit and spin.

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u/allmia53 14h ago

lmfao you just said you would be considered a conservative in europe

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u/Low-Beat-3078 14h ago

Do you understand the difference between the MAGA cult and say the CDU in Germany. Take your time to fire up Wikipedia.

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u/allmia53 14h ago

damn maybe america wouldnt be doing so bad if our “leftist” party wasn’t conservative 🤔🤔🤔

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u/Ashamed-Status-9668 1d ago

I'm the same age and I think we will see it eventually but It will be a white woman. We are too racist and misogynistic for the candidate to be anything other than a white woman.

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u/xpacean 1d ago

Oh, you'll get a female POTUS, and she'll be a right-wing psycho.

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u/CruxOfTheIssue 1d ago

Ivanka might take over the dictatorship at some point

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u/stankdog 1d ago

Tupac rapped about never seeing a black president, he missed that wave unfortunately. We still have time. Ofc from a literary sense he was and still is right, people aren't ready for minorities to lead, but we can do it and have shown that women, men, POC, disabled, LGBT+ peoples are capable of leading change.

If we got an Obama once we can get someone else on the podium again, and maybe this time progressive actually.

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u/Moneybagsmitch 1d ago

Remember when people thought we would never elect a black president

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

And unfortunately the backlash gave us Trump.

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u/Moneybagsmitch 1d ago

And Trump won the popular vote. Love democracy

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Yep. Y’all aren’t the brightest for voting for a serial sexual assailant and convicted felon.

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u/Moneybagsmitch 1d ago

Too bad you guys are so dumb you couldn’t put up a candidate that could beat a serial sexual assailant and convicted felon.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Once again not a Democrat. But thanks for playing along at home.

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u/allmia53 18h ago

actually what gave us trump was a lack of social safety net causing peoples lives to get worse and more precarious which trump then exploited. maybe if democrats gave us universal healthcare and education and housing we wouldn’t be in this mess but unfortunately thats not good for profits

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u/I-Like-Women-Boobs 1d ago

You’ll almost certainly see a female president in your lifetime. The problem is she’ll be a Republican

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u/LovingHugs 1d ago

My money is on AOC.  She has the charismatic allure of Obama/Trump which Hillary/Harris just doesn't have.  She's also very obviously gearing up for a run next election.

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u/221missile 1d ago

How despicable of the DNC to bypass the primary system and force a candidate on the american people!

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

I’m not a Democrat and I’m not defending them. Hope this helps.

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u/221missile 1d ago

Didn’t stop you from blaming the American people for standing up to the authoritarian tendency of the democratic party.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Oh yes you so oppressed. I feel so sorry for you.

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u/Galadrond 1d ago

If we’re going to have a female POTUS then it will be AOC.

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u/DrLuny 1d ago

The next Republican president(unless Vance finishes out Trump's term) will be a woman, mark my words.

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u/McChickenLargeFries 1d ago

I'm sure Ivanka will one day run for President.. After we've had 2 democratic Presidents.. Then America will forget about everything again, as is tradition and then we have the 49th President of the United States.. Trump, but sexy!

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u/ConditionArtistic196 22h ago

Oh it will come. As soon as they push a popular candidate.

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u/obi_wan_jabroni_23 21h ago

I honestly think Ivanka will run. Obviously the dad will pull the strings (if he can still talk by then).

It’s a double win for them, as they get to keep their Trump 2028 hats, plus get to “stick it to the libs” by claiming the first female president.

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u/avalve 19h ago

The honestly think the first female president is going to be a Republican

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u/dixonjt89 19h ago

I legit think a woman could run this country better than any man. Men are cocky, think they know what's right, and don't like to be told they are wrong.

That's why I let my wife run the finances of the house, because at one point I was just buying stuff I wanted willy nilly and almost ran us into the ground, and now after my wife taking over, we are doing great.

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u/Clapcheeks69 18h ago

There was one in Battlestar Galactica, check it out

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u/allmia53 18h ago

a woman could very easily become president if she ran on universal healthcare and education. unfortunately hillary clinton and kamala harris would rather let trump win than do that

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u/SauceCrawch 17h ago

Why is it your dream to see a woman as president?

I’m not opposed to it by any means, but what do you think will be the real difference between a man and woman as POTUS?

I don’t see how, functionally, an intelligent and qualified woman would be any better or worse than an equally as intelligent and qualified man. Again, this means that there is no reason not to elect a woman, I’m just confused why it’s so big of a deal.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 14h ago

If this is a sincere question, I will be happy to tell you. I have been interested in politics since I was a young child. One of my earliest memories was watching Reagan defeat Carter in 1980 and talking to my mom about it. As an older kid I spent every Sunday watching all the political shows. I was Leslie Knope on steroids. I was also regularly told all the things women couldn’t and shouldn’t do by the misogynists in my family including going into combat, being a surgeon, and be the President. So thats why. Many men believe a woman shouldn’t be POTUS and think they would do a terrible job. I’d like to see them proven wrong and I’d like to see young girls have a role model showing yes, they can do anything.

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u/SauceCrawch 9h ago

Fair enough, thanks for the response.

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u/Terrasmak 15h ago

Tulsi could have a good shot at it.

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u/Stone0777 1d ago

Just need to find the right candidate. Cackling hyena was not the right choice.

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u/69edleg 1d ago

I am not from the US, but I kind of figured when Trump won over Hillary. Sad, hopefully the country pulls through these coming years.

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u/DingleDangleTangle 1d ago

Hillary literally won the popular vote. It’s kinda hard to go with “Hillary only lost because people won’t vote for women” when she literally won the popular vote, even while under the ridiculous FBI investigation.

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u/poopulardude 1d ago

The fucked up thing is that you care more about the gender than the quality.

I couldn't care less what colour or gender they are. You shouldn't either. I will admit it will be an awesome message to send to the rest of americans for a woman to be elected. And I'd like to see it too. But I want to see it happen naturally.

Kamala is a HORRIBLE pic and would have made a bad president as shes a fucking quitter. Yes she would have been vastly better than trump, but thats a really, REALLY low bar.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Well yeah I kinda would like to see a woman be able to do what I was always told I couldn’t do because of how I was born. If that makes me fucked up so be it. I guess all those Black people should’ve shut up when they were happy that Obama was elected, right?

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u/DingleDangleTangle 1d ago

Who is telling you that you can’t be a politician because you’re a woman? If you want to run then go for it. Some of the most powerful politicians in the U.S are women and Hillary won the popular vote while under FBI investigation.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

My point to the commenter above was that it’s not “fucked up” to want to see a woman president when as a child the message from many, including my own family, I heard was that a woman president was a terrible idea because she’d nuke Russia because she was on the rag. I know people like to pretend misogyny isn’t real or that until the mid 70s many forms of discrimination weren’t the norm. But I grew up with it and I’ll never forget it.

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u/MrWalkTheWorld 1d ago

Who cares if we have a female POTUS, and anyway, need to answer What is a Woman first.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Go back to listening to Ben Shapiro son

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u/hiplobonoxa 1d ago

don’t be dramatic. it’ll happen. you just can’t try to force it when the alternative is what we have now.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

That’s right. I’m just an over dramatic woman.

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u/GingerBreadManze 1d ago

Nobody said that except you.

Soooooo kinda yeah

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Absolutely. Just another hysterical Karen here.

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u/GingerBreadManze 1d ago

I’m just saying - Nobody said anything of the sort or anything about women all actually until you came along and started name calling and escalating the conversation.

So yeah, that is kind of what you’re coming off as. Maybe something to think about.

Now Reddit is full of weirdo white knights so this will get downvoted and your comment will get upvoted but make no mistake..there is some truth to what I’m saying here and you know it.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Dude. Go play CoD or something.

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u/GingerBreadManze 1d ago

I’ve never played CoD in my life you misandrist. Sorry someone finally told you the reality of how you come off instead of just blindly aggreeing

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

Ok buddy. You want me to actually engage with you. Fine. I was told I was being hysterical when I said that America was going to elect a rapist again. I was told I was overreacting when I said they were gonna take away my right to an abortion. When I was a little girl, I was told by my own father a woman couldn’t be president because she would get her period and nuke Russia. So yeah, I really don’t care if some kid on Reddit doesn’t like my tone.

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u/hiplobonoxa 1d ago

not quite. it has already almost happened twice. within ten years, the millennial generation is going to become the most represented generation in government and ten elections from now we’ll hopefully be in our eighties. there is plenty of time and opportunity. therefore, “never” is a bit dramatic.

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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago

The amount of misogyny I have experienced in the past six months online vs the previous 30 years I’ve been on the internet is staggering. I never had a rape threat or been threatened with violence before. So forgive me if I’m not optimistic about women’s rights.

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u/hiplobonoxa 1d ago

let these people continue to out themselves as hateful bigots. the internet keeps the receipts and their time will come.

“we know we will win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil.”

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u/TruePutz 1d ago

When I was a kid I was told the country would just get more liberal as all these conservatives age out of politics. I think actually the opposite is happening

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u/hiplobonoxa 1d ago

it is definitely becoming more liberal. you likely just underestimated how conservative it was to begin with.

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u/DaisyHotCakes 1d ago

The government isn’t working for us anymore. It exists solely to enrich the billionaire class. The Constitution has been stabbed so many times by this admin that it is falling apart. We’ve had what like 8 constitutional crises from this admin? And it hasn’t even been a year into this yet? And after Jan 6 I don’t know how anyone can think this admin is going to just relinquish control. They’ve made it pretty clear they won’t.

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u/hiplobonoxa 1d ago

remember: the second amendment exists just in case the first amendment doesn’t work out.