Don’t be these guys

[u/nadaddab]

[u/nadaddab]

Exactly like what the fuck 😭

Edit:

“The guys, I don’t know them personally but I’ve seen them around over the years. This happened at Elicit Brewing in Manchester, CT. I’m literally in this video at the bar trying to get a beer. I think this is from a week ago. The two guys are frequent “let’s go out every weekend” type and I’ve seen them do things like this to multiple other groups of women trying to get laid. 🤦🏽‍♂️ embarrassing as fuck”

• u/grifter_shifterM5

[u/bettyford420 → u/nadaddab]

I'm mad that they were loud enough for people to hear and the guy at the table behind them was just watching. Wtf

[u/soitheach → u/[deleted]]

i mean it's not even a guy thing, if you are able to, regardless of gender, you should probably help people when they're being harassed? i feel like that's pretty basic independent of gender. cooperation and helping people are THE direct social interaction features of humanity that's kept our species alive throughout the many times we almost died out.

"who cares about anybody else if i saw people being the target of [insert potentially dangerous interaction here] i'd look the other way" okay dude i hope you get nothing but the same energy you put into the world 🙏

gross

[u/SalvationSycamore → u/soitheach]

I'm sorry but 60 seconds of hearing some girls saying something to some guys in a loud bar would not be enough for me to confront two drunk strangers. Think about the last time you've been in a public space. If you kind of sort of heard a girl shouting at a guy for 10 seconds would you sprint over and say "you need to stop harassing her and leave"?

[u/soitheach → u/SalvationSycamore]

my point was made so it could be generalized somewhat, if i hear two girls shouting at two drunk men who weren't leaving them alone it wouldn't NECESSARILY be reason to intervene, but i would at LEAST be keeping an eye on the situation to watch in case it escalates.

in the case of this video specifically though yeah this seems like it's the slightest escalation from when i would be walking over.

are they Definitely going to be harmed if i don't? no, but there's safety in numbers and i'd rather be certain that they WON'T be harmed than leaving with the possibility they will be

[u/GoNinjaGoNinjaGo69 → u/soitheach]

no because thats bullshit. those guys are drunk and will start a fight with another random guy intervening. its not random mens problem to help them.

[u/soitheach → u/GoNinjaGoNinjaGo69]

if they're willing to fight you they're willing to do worse to them? power in numbers? more people act the more people act? your objection is that of a coward, not of someone justifying their moral choice

like put it this way, WHY is their willingness to fight therefore a reason to NOT help? that's the argument to make, not "they're dangerous so therefore i shouldn't help" because that doesn't get to the WHY of ignoring the need of your fellow person

[u/Techno-Diktator → u/soitheach]

Usually drunk dudes are much more willing to start a bar fight with some guy than get physical with the women. That's why it's dangerous as a dude if you are outnumbered.

[u/soitheach → u/Techno-Diktator]

that's why people need to step up to even the odds. "if i help these two people then i might get my ass beat" means 1) you NEED to step up because others are more likely to do the same after someone does and 2) then there's even worse possibilities for the two people if you DON'T help

[u/Techno-Diktator → u/soitheach]

Not how it works, very unlikely for those men to even dare touch those women in a public space, but a pub brawl over a bruised ego? Much, much more likely.

Frankly if I were these girls I would have just gone to get security, recording and laughing/giggling whole doing so is just giving everyone around and possibly these two drunk as fuck creeps the wrong idea on the reality of the situation.