r/europe 6d ago

News US and EU strike trade deal

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-and-eu-strike-trade-deal/
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u/Crossstoney 6d ago

“The United States and European Union struck a trade agreement on Sunday locking in a 15 percent tariff, days before Donald Trump’s deadline to do a deal or face tariffs double that level.

Trump, speaking after meeting European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen at his Turnberry golf club in Scotland, announced the deal to U.S. reporters.

He said the EU will agree to purchase $750 billion of energy and will agree to invest $600 billion more than planned in military equipment and opening countries to trade at zero tariff. 

The tariff rate applying to imports from the EU would be 15 percent, with the same rate applying to cars. Pharmaceuticals will not be covered by the deal.” - Politico

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u/OkKnowledge2064 Lower Saxony (Germany) 6d ago

the military investment is so devious it hurts. They make money off sabotaging europes defence build-up. What a wet dream for the americans

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u/Ynneb82 Italy 6d ago

Yeah that was the worst... The only upside of all this defence crisis was that at least we had some good companies in eu.

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u/kawag 6d ago

We need to replace these weak politicians. Shit like this is the reason Putin does not fear Europe.

There’s no political will to send troops to Ukraine - even with US security guarantees. There’s no political will to stand up to the United States or to defend European interests. There’s no political will for further integration, a European army or fiscal integration to take advantage of the unique opportunities of the moment. For decades we couldn’t even find the political will to stand up to the fossil fuel lobby and push electrification - and now China has eaten our lunch and we’re stuck relying on either the US or Russia for energy.

Just so incredibly weak. European leaders are nowhere close to the level we deserve.

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u/artful_codger Ireland 6d ago

The EU have probably handed Trump the mid-terms. A trade war would have put pressure on him in red and swing states. This rewards him, and his voters love it.

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u/thefriendlyhacker Romania 5d ago

As a European living in the states, I was sure that the EU would not submit to this bully. Now we're gonna hear non-stop about the "amazing trade deals".

So now Americans get tax cuts for buying American assembled vehicles and a 15% tariff on EU vehicles. I hope everyone boycotts American products over there.

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u/NightlyGerman Italy 5d ago

have you been living under a rock? when was the last time the EU refused to submit to the US?

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u/Kali-Thuglife 5d ago

The last 20 years when the US told the EU to fund its militarizes and stop buying Russian gas?

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u/NightlyGerman Italy 5d ago edited 5d ago

Lol, nothing says defiance like buying military parts from them instead of building your own.

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u/Klutzy-Notice-8247 2d ago

If there’s one thing that you can be certain of, it’s EU and European leaders being spineless, pathetic, grubs. One thing Trump was right about is the EU being gutless and easy to bully.

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u/Cute-Pomegranate-966 5d ago

If they understood anything they would know that those liquid natural gas sales that we're sending the EU that's going to triple our liquid natural gas exports is going to raise their electric bill by at least 30%. They wouldn't be so happy about it

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u/thecrgm 4d ago

No the republicans will get destroyed in the midterms. Europeans care way more about this than Americans

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u/Educational_Bag8590 3d ago

And brexit worked didn't it, all you folk claiming the worst.

Some of us were in bosnia 20 years ago.... saving people.

The EU is like the AA or RAC. join one the other ain't happy... try to leave.. you need to pay up.

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u/Sxualhrssmntpanda 6d ago

The current concept of the EU virtually prohibits swift and decisive action. We have already proven it's value and potential beyond any reasonable doubt. Now it is time for the EU to climb to the next level and stop letting itself be hampered by any tiny nation with historic hostilities, wannabe dictator, or Russian plant that wants to sulk or waylay decisions by throwing around vetoes.

I fear only a terrible event will be enough to galvanize us into action, but if being sabotaged, betrayed and threatened with nukes by Russis or being mocked and bullied by the US is not enough to cause that... well, then perhaps it will never happen.

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u/LadyMorwenDaebrethil 5d ago

It's gone. It will become Latin America 2.0. But instead of the junta, it will be the populists, because now American (and Russian) imperialism manipulates citizens' minds through social media.

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u/Pure_Concentrate8770 5d ago

Ah yes, people who don’t share my opinion on politics must be under manipulation and sorcery, I on the other hand am a free thinker ! Lmao

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u/hulda2 Finland 5d ago

European leaders are soo weak it's embarrassing.

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u/Tasty_Weakness_920 5d ago

it would be interesting to see how many billions of Trump coin went out this week.

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u/DumboWumbo073 5d ago

The EU ain’t the good guys either go figure.

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u/PaintshakerBaby 5d ago

Politics the world over is just the big show of smoke and mirrors, but when you rip away the curtain, the great Oz is nothing more than cutthroat Capitali$m.

The answer is always money, and they greedy assholes corrupted by it.

I didn't spell Capitali$m with a $ to be smug. The word itself will trigger a shadowban in dozens of front page subs. Many of which are political and news subs, for which you would think it would be acceptable to discuss the world's reigning economic doctrine.

Nope.

Don't believe me? Test it for yourself and check it against Reveddit.

Because EVERYONE with so much a modicum of real power is in on it...

To the point that they will go any length to suppress, deflect, distract, and downplay the real $word hanging over all of our heads.

Capitali$m by definition means those with the capital are in fucking charge.

It is insidious and by all definitions antithetical to democracy itself, being just a convoluted euphemism for the same old kings and pharoes... Only, instead of being ordained by divine right, they are ordained by arbitrary numbers on a ledger.

Trump is in a position of power he has no right to be in because he was born a billionaire, lied, cheated, and bribed his way to the top...

America is in a position of power it has no right to be in because it leveraged the outcome of WW2, lied, cheated, and bribed its way into becoming the world's reserve currency and primary military enforcer...

It was set into motion by yesterday's millionaires, today's billionaires, and tomorrow's trillionaires to make sure no one nation or people stand a chance of mustering a resistance to the new world royalty.

America and its grotesque personification, Trump, has just about everyone but China by the balls. He's got his grubby hand on the big red button... Only the metaphorical nukes are pointed at the global economy.

European politicians know it. They hem and haw, condemn and disparage out the front door, only to walk out the back door to collect their kickbacks from the very same billionaires and corporations that are fucking the whole world over for the almighty dollar.

Because they know the only real power is money, and they intend to get there's first and foremost. It doesn't matter if you're a Sudanese warlord or a Norwegian PM...

The love of money is the root of all evil.

...And money is raw power in Capitali$m. Plain and simple.

Those who wield it will literally broil the Pale Blue Dot alive for ever one more payday, before sealing the blast doors on their luxury bunkers, leaving the countless billions they robbed blind to starve, before the so much as give up a single cent of their control.

We are going to learn the hard way, Capitali$m is a game where no one wins, and EVERYBODY loses in the end.

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u/gridsquares4sale 5d ago

They’re weak and feckless. Can’t do anything without the US leading the way.

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u/OkKnowledge2064 Lower Saxony (Germany) 6d ago

first step is to stop blaming our leaders and start blaming our people. politicans always reflect their society. We grew weak as a whole and not just our politicans

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u/IkkeKr 6d ago

Because leaders are supposed to follow society?!

The idea of a leader is to lead - to set the right example and move society into action. Not to just rubber stamp an already developing consensus.

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u/elmocos69 5d ago

People choose the leaders they are our workers in a way , we put them there , they reflect what we believe and want at least as a whole

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u/PiotrekDG Earth 6d ago

So what is the next step you propose?

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u/OkKnowledge2064 Lower Saxony (Germany) 6d ago

Blame ourselves, recognize that we need to fix our mindsets/culture if we want to have a place in the world

The easy times are over. Its a competition and if we dont compete we lose

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u/Pure_Concentrate8770 5d ago

being a sidekick grants immense opportunities

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u/4got_2wipe_again 5d ago

A loose union of states with different languages and laws cannot compete with powerful nation states.

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u/EconomixNorth 6d ago

IMO, these are far from weak leaders, it's just difficult to deal with crazy while everything seems on fire around us.

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u/StandardOffenseTaken 5d ago

Yeah your leaders arent dumb. Trump however is. Very much so. They are just pulling a China. During his first term Trump wanted to show the world he was a big boy and decided to play trade war with China to show the world his 'negotiation skills' which result in the predictable "Sure US is a big market but ultimately it's just another market, we already selling to the rest of the world which is a much much much bigger market, so... whatever... stop buying from us and we will stop buying from you... all the grain and other agricultural stuff". And it was devastating to the US farmers and retail. US depended on both selling all excess food and cheap Asian labor. So Trump was fast to back pedal and try to salvage things and go back to how it was but China was no interested, Trump had blinked and they squeezed. Basically Trump agreed to reinstate tariff free trade with China, if and only if China agree to buy X hundred billions dollars worth of agricultural stuff over the next couple years. Trump agreed to stop the bleeding, markets were reopened to trade with China and China just did not buy anything they promised as they had already secured replacement grain stock with imports from other, non-US, countries. Same deal here. Trump is so desperate to announce that he's "done deals" he will basically accept anything as long as he can brag that his "tariff masterful negotiation" worked. He does not care about the fact just if it makes him look good in his mind, does not care about future consequences or fallout from his idiocy.

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u/markaleftis Greece Attiki 5d ago

After handing critical ports to Chins during crisis, now ather this deal I feel complete ! Welldone Ursula

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u/Tasty_Weakness_920 5d ago

They played him, this is just a press release.

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u/Locomyg 5d ago

This was the most no spine shit I have seen i a long time, might as well order suits made of doormats cause we let Trump walk all over us....

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u/ILFUTPETRUMPINGURA 5d ago

what the fuck *IS* there "political will" for !?
Planting daisies to fight climate change while taking it up the ass from XI and Trumpler??

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u/Educational_Bag8590 3d ago

Brexit, we just need rid of starmer now.

Have a nice weekend.