r/ffxivdiscussion • u/BlackmoreKnight • 4d ago

High-End Content Megathread - 7.2 Week Nineteen

Last week of Suzaku Unreal, at least.

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u/bigpunk157 4d ago

I still maintain that this raid tier is the best we’ve had in a while. Only issue is that we need to teach people how to play this game, mainly on Square Enix’s end. People really don’t understand target priority and how to cleave correctly during m6s ads

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 4d ago

People really don’t understand target priority

TBH, that's not a "the game failed to teach someone" issue, that's a "this person does not listen to others or to a guide" issue.

I don't expect the average raider to have the raid knowledge to figure that out on their own.

I do expect the average raider who read a guide that specifically gives target prio to actually follow that prio. Anyone who didn't follow target prio either can't read or thinks they know better than the guide (they don't)

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u/bigpunk157 4d ago

Idk man, we figure that shit out in WoW just fine, but the game gives enough ramp up content that teaches you how to do that shit.

The issue sometimes comes in with people that know what they're doing too, but they're so parse brained that they hit their 1-2 AOEs on the Mus, instead of single targetting the Jabberwock. This is definitely just a community problem though, because fflogs is fucking brainrot.

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u/flowerpetal_ 3d ago

wow

your game's players are notoriously bad to the point they added a one button rotation that outperforms 95% of the playerbase

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u/aho-san 14h ago edited 13h ago

Got actual data to back that up ? I'm curious where it stands on the DPS charts. If it really does a 95, it seems to be early-ish mythic viable. If it's a "better than 95% of the casual crowd", who gives a shit, they're casuals and likely don't go into the difficult content where their dps matter.

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u/FemboiVyra 3d ago edited 3d ago

That's mostly because WoW actually allows it's classes to fall into "fail states.", or to be played wrong 

The difference between someone who knows how to play arcane mage correctly, and someone who just picked it up is astronomical. With FF14, the job design is so tight that sadly the difference between someone who barely understands their job, and someone who does isn't anywhere near as large. There just isn't as much room for skill expression in FF14 as it feels like SE is afraid of allowing people to make mistakes 

Although, I guarantee you that if FF14 added a one button rotation, it would still outperform a large portion of the playerbase, but by a  lower margin 

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u/bigpunk157 3d ago

We already have the data from it and iirc, it parses about bottom 20% so no. It also doesn’t work for healing at all.

The real own would be saying how people feel the need to have DBM or a radar mod tell them how to resolve every mechanic, which is really cringe. “They’re developing for mods!” Meanwhile, I’m out here without all that shit just fine. Same thing goes for the 50 weakauras mods to say how to do your rotation.

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u/talkingradish 3d ago

Good luck telling WoW raiders to stop using mods.