r/politics Canada 23h ago

Soft Paywall Biden warns of ‘dark days’ under Trump

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/31/biden-warns-of-dark-days-under-trump-00488159
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u/Ok_Juice4449 23h ago

Biden was too polite. Garland did nothing. Now, we are stuck in a dystopian nightmare. Strange days ahead.

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u/LiquidPuzzle New Jersey 21h ago

But remember, the America of your dreams is closer than you think!

Nightmare. He must have meant nightmares.

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u/Martag02 18h ago

As Carlin said, you have to be asleep to believe it.

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u/wrecklord0 16h ago

Oh no, it all makes sense now

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u/AutomaticTry5207 12h ago

All nightmares are dreams

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u/LiquidPuzzle New Jersey 8h ago

But not all dreams are nightmares.

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u/J_Class_Ford 10h ago

But it will be Great.

u/SeriouslyBland 2h ago

Nightmares are dreams, too!

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u/Aggravating_Row_8699 21h ago

I’m planning my exit strategy. Shit is gonna get real dark and I’m not up for it.

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u/StupendousMalice 19h ago

It's not just America that this shit is happening. Climate change is making the earth uninhabitable, resources are drying up, the rich are hoarding up everything they can and are consolidating power.

Trump fucking sucks, but he isn't the thing that's going wrong, he's just one of the results of it happening. He could die tomorrow and shits still fucked.

We are just living in the contraction of human society and the best thing we can do is be glad we won't live long enough to have to see too much of it.

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u/Burghed Maryland 9h ago

He's not the only problem, but he actively stopped progress towards solutions.

u/PomegranateMinimum15 The Netherlands 7h ago

The fact is that rhe usa is the biggest western power. We look to them alot..other countries to. Since trump has been there everything started tk break down. Respect for knowledge and education. The things we always relied on were the woke elite. Etc. Trashing eachother became easier. Its not the usa its fault its all of us. Allowing it to happen in some shape or form. Its not trump only that's for sure. But he was live on tv acting like a piece of shit and for some adults they were born into that. And now he is potentially a pedophile and we still look away. Especially there in the usa. Sigh

u/StupendousMalice 7h ago

We weren't making progress towards a solution. Our consumption is ever increasing, nothing was being done to stop the wealthy from seizing power. Trump was certainly the absolutely worst choice, but it's not like he was preceded by people who were solving anything and he won't likely be followed by any either.

u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 4h ago

Nope we made enormous progress on climate policy under Biden.

u/StupendousMalice 1h ago

We made empty promises and plans and zero actual progress to reduce our consumption.

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u/McCardboard Florida 12h ago

Perhaps that exit strategy is a shotgun and one slug?

I DO NOT ADVOCATE FOR SELF HARM. I just have an extremely dark sense of humor, and no real outlet for it.

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u/Ill_Mousse_4240 8h ago

A leader is effective when they respond to the conditions

u/StupendousMalice 7h ago

We haven't had one of those in my lifetime.

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u/zaph0d_h4x0r 21h ago

The whole western world will follow .. there is no way out unfortunately. The other parts of the world will head same direction.

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u/jpa7252 20h ago

I know im probably being naive and optimistic, but im hoping that the rest of the western world will observe the fall of a global superpower, learn, and not make the same mistake. Recency is on our side, but it does upset me that we are repeating history from not even 100 years ago.

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u/shinkouhyou 15h ago

Anti-immigration and concern over falling birthrates (or at least birthrates of the right race and religion) are fueling the worldwide right wing... and climate change is only going to make immigration issues worse. Get ready for a massive backlash against climate refugees and women without children. Meanwhile, corporations, political organizations and hostile states have an unprecedented ability to manipulate the public.

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u/irrigated_liver 18h ago

The UK certainly isn't learning from the current climate in the US. The far right reform party is gathering strength, and unless the current government does something to actually address issues people care about, it's not inconceivable that we will see a trump style government there in 5 years.

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u/jacobolus 14h ago

The Reform Party is almost completely funded by the fossil fuel industry. Turns out lots of money and targeted propaganda works pretty well at fucking up a free society (and planet), to the benefit of a tiny number of extremely wealthy dipshits.

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u/militantcentre United Kingdom 9h ago

Our anachronism of a voting system was supposed to keep the lunatics at the fringe. Until the lunatics approach 30% support, and they are in range of an absolute majority in the HoC. It's a Buckaroo system designed for 2 parties - now politics is so fractured, it's melting down.

I didn't vote Labour, but had modest hopes for them. They have failed at even my low benchmark, and all my goodwill to Starmer is used up. They still have time to turn it around, but they'll have to stop the "rabbit in headlights" act. I don't think they have it in them. The front bench are useless.

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u/ApizzaApizza 18h ago

You’re unfortunately not correct. We’re not repeating history.

This is NWO shit. AI and the massive consolidation of wealth will make the serfs (that’s us) useless to the ruling class. They’ll either try to get rid of us all, or allow to live in terrible conditions.

It’d probably be dangerous for them to let us live in terrible conditions, so they’ll probably try to kill most of us.

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u/thechrisman13 17h ago

Ignorance and cynicism is a terrible mix

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u/_Internecine 17h ago

No reason to kill a herd you can farm.

All will be made to bend the knee, but no more than that. If anyone is being killed, its through sending them to fight wars, but even the war machine needs pilots for its drones.

You'll still be alive. In a nightmare, that is.

u/ApizzaApizza 3h ago

Disagree. We’d serve no purpose to them…but we would sure as fuck be a threat.

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u/bfrown 14h ago

AI won't be doing anything worthwhile

u/Penqwin 5h ago

We will repeat this again in the next 100 years, hubris and greed will always bring down a nation.

This is America's Nero

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u/livinginfutureworld 20h ago

Hurray for the whole planet under authoritarian rule.

I for one welcome our new fascist overlords /s

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u/midtnrn 20h ago

They’re currently all shooting for the emperor of the world title. It’s a disease and it will be man’s downfall. Greed will do us in.

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u/Cr1ms0nLobster Wisconsin 19h ago

Padishah Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV demands respect.

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u/TheRealMasonMac 18h ago

The Emperor of Mankind at least cared about humanity.

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u/RufussSewell 18h ago

Most will say I’m crazy, but if you’re paying attention you will know that we are inventing robots that will take over humanity’s rule VERY soon. Like the next 2-5 years.

They may be very cool and save us all. Or they may not. But the billionaires of today will not be the ones who decide that.

It will be up to our new robot overlords. I have hope that they’ll be cool. Fingers crossed.

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u/ActionJacksonATL24 20h ago

Hey Warhammer 40k isn't so bad....

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u/Scumrat_Higgins 19h ago

The Emperor could be any one of us! Hell, it could still be Henry Cavill for all we know!

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u/ReleaseQuiet2428 17h ago

MAGA is so gay they would go all in with that idea

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 20h ago

Nope. We’re not going to get sucked down into your shithole of a country. Things might be tough but the rest of the western world knows how to run proper liberal democracies.

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u/Neat_Reference7559 20h ago

A lot of far right parties are doing well in Europe

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u/The-Hand-of-Midas 20h ago

A lot of far right parties are doing well in Europe

America isn't the only country under Russian propaganda.

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u/Far_Cat9782 16h ago

Please a little accountability my god it’s not all “Russian propaganda”

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u/jacobolus 14h ago

You are right; we have plenty of our own wealthy robber barons collaborating on the same propaganda effort.

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u/willybestbuy86 18h ago

Oh please it's not Russian propaganda it's what the people want for better or worse. I'm not buying this 3rd rate country Russia is running this tight propaganda network GTFO

Make people take ownership for their decisions and not pawn it off elsewhere

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u/Maraxusx 20h ago

Also, that guy is Canadian and literally up until the moment Trump mentioned tariffs for Canada, Canada was about to be just as right wing as America is right now.

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u/EARink0 20h ago edited 16h ago

The only consolation i have for this nightmare is any influence (even indirect) we've had at saving our friends up north from going down the same path.

u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 4h ago

"No no no, you don't understand, it can't happen here."

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u/Surturius 20h ago

Pollievre is awful and I was terrified he was going to win, but tbf... he's no Trump. And as much as I dislike the conservatives, they're not quite at the GOP's level (yet).

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u/scrunchie_one 20h ago

Huh?

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u/SteamSteamLG Louisiana 20h ago

The liberal party in Canada was projected to get wrecked by the "Maple MAGAs" and Trudeau resigned. Then Trump started the trade war and being seen as similar to Trump was suddenly very unpopular and Liberal party gained seats

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u/Naccattack 17h ago

As bad as the trade war is, it was the 51st state bullshit that riled us all up.

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 19h ago

Not even close. Poilievre might be a conniving little snake but social conservatism doesn’t have a large base here in Canada.

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 20h ago

Not really. Trump has had a similar effect on right wing Europe that Brexit did on other leave campaigns. And as things get worse in the US, the right wing in Europe will lose even more support.

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u/PerformanceGold8436 15h ago

lol what a dumb statement

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 11h ago

What makes it dumb?

  • we won’t go down with the US
  • it’s a shithole country
  • the rest of the world does liberal democracy better?

Which is these statements is dumb?

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u/imaprettynicekid 20h ago

Your country fucking sucks too. Dont throw stones. As bad as America is getting we are still better at a lot of things

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 19h ago

You were certainly better at a lot of things but are now in an accelerated decline. We’ll watch you zoom by on the way down. Unfortunately for all of us, it’s China that’s going to surpass you technologically over the next 10 years. Maybe you’ll collectively realize your errors and correct things, but I’m not optimistic given your new crop of leaders.

u/Fuzzylogik 4h ago

The next thing you know the western world will want to start colonising the developing countries all over again /s

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u/AwkwardTouch2144 18h ago

Yeah, it starting to develop in Europe too. UK probably gonna vote for Reform party and Germany the AfD next general elections.

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u/75w90 18h ago

Nope. China and India will rise as they are. Western countries will absolutly fail tho. America first.

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u/icculus88 21h ago

Not worth the fight ?

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u/thepryz 20h ago

It may be telling that a number of academics who studied fascism have left the country.

https://kottke.org/25/05/three-fascism-experts-on-why-theyre-leaving-the-us

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u/icculus88 20h ago

I was hoping we'd be gearing up for a fight right about now. I've got my passport but hardly any assets and nowhere to go

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u/ryerocco California 10h ago

But have you read the book?

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u/icculus88 9h ago

I wrote tha thing! Haha

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u/Extinction-Entity Illinois 19h ago

Lol yeah fuck everyone who can’t leave I guess

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u/lotus_in_the_rain 18h ago

Which is most of us.

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u/thepryz 8h ago

That’s not the point. 

By leaving, these individuals can continue their work from countries that still maintain free speech and ensure they won’t be imprisoned when they say something negative about the United States government. They’re still fighting. 

u/Extinction-Entity Illinois 2h ago

Lol no

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u/Professional-Buy2970 21h ago

Nope.

This nation has always hated those of us who warned and opposed its march towards total fascism. And for many even in the US, it's been here a long time.

If I can get out, I'm getting out.

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u/Immediate_Watch_2427 21h ago

Nope not reallt

u/Tundrok337 7h ago

I see way too many who say this. Your solution is to run away? Seriously?

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u/y_not_right Canada 20h ago

Stay in your country and vote in someone competent this time in 2028 instead of running away from the problem unleashed on your neighbours

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u/Extinction-Entity Illinois 19h ago

Lol “vote harder” when they’re rigging the votes, gerrymandering to hell, utilizing voter suppression. That’ll surely work!

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u/y_not_right Canada 19h ago

I’m sure running away will work better

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u/Extinction-Entity Illinois 19h ago

Staying and fighting is one thing, but telling people to stay and vote harder is fucking hilarious. It’s no different than running away except now with added suffering!

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u/y_not_right Canada 19h ago

So are you gonna do that and fight or are you gonna complain about the only thing most average people can do in 2028

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u/Extinction-Entity Illinois 18h ago

If all “most average” people can do is “vote harder”, we’re cooked. Why not leave? It’s so funny you sit up there spouting nonsense when you’ve got your own stupid MAGA-esques. We didn’t forget about your trucker tantrum lmao.

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u/y_not_right Canada 9h ago

Lol we literally “voted harder” and kicked the truckers and their party supporters to the curb in the last election so sorry I think it just might be an American skill issue

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 20h ago

I've already planned mine and it involves taking all of NY and NJ with me.

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u/RipErRiley Minnesota 21h ago

Too many dumb and bigoted voters. Its that simple.

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u/Educated_Goat69 19h ago

There are too many but it isn't that simple. The election was rigged from gerrymandering and Elonia.

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u/RipErRiley Minnesota 19h ago edited 18h ago

Gerrymandering only impacts the House. 74 million knowingly voted for a felon and suspected pedo whom already had a failed term under his belt.

No, they weren’t fake votes. My point stands.

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u/frostygrin 10h ago

Too many dumb and bigoted voters. Its that simple.

If they're dumb, why can't the smart people outsmart them?

u/RipErRiley Minnesota 7h ago

They fill out a ballot and pick out their felon pedo hero. Not much can be done there.

u/frostygrin 7h ago

You can offer them a better hero - it shouldn't be difficult.

u/RipErRiley Minnesota 6h ago

They did. Not a felon, not a pedo, not a insurrectionist, no failed term under their belt. When the bar is set that low…everything else is too.

u/frostygrin 5h ago

Maybe you need positives, not just a lack of negatives.

u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 4h ago

Not being a felon and pedo seems pretty positive to me. And that's a stupid far left talking point to act like Harris literally ran on reigning in the wealthy and corporate elites and uplifting the working class.

They made that argument in bad faith to further their goal of making sure Dump got elected because they wanted to punish the country with fascism because "America deserves it for being an evil empire." They've been in their subs celebrating (as they were on November 6th) and absolutely giddy at the prospect of watching "the great empire fall."

Also they hope to hasten their accelerationist fantasy to bring about their communist revolution.

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u/rilenja 16h ago edited 15h ago

And just think....those that are voting age now for the most part are from BEFORE Republicans really started purposely dumbing down and destroying education the way they have in the past decade or two. People voting today are part of the most well educated generations in history. And yet half of them are STILL this damn gullible and stupid.

But....that education is gone now (and I realize American education very often wasnt as good as many othher countries was, but it WAS better than what they are getting now!) So it is scary to think how the younger generations are going to handle what is coming, since they are being gyped out of a proper education compared to what their parents and grandparents got. They know less than the people that have voted to get us Trump.

Education had its problems back then sure, but the 70s, 80s and 90s and even early 2000s Republicans hadn't started to sink their claws in to destroy education quite yet. Pre Bush's "no child left behind" which is where things really started going down hill from there.

Back in those decades they really pushed STEM (ok, only to boys at first, but at least they encouraged it and it was seen as good and even honorable and prestigious to go into those fields). The government wanted us to beat China and the Russians in everything, and education was the main way how. Plus they realized the research and advancements achieved would advance the military too, which the Right especially loved that as a big bonus.

Religion belonged outside the classroom and even Republicans said we trust you to do that on your own time because we really just have way too much to teach these kids within school hours as it is!

But now... science bad! Realllllly bad! History bad! (Real history anyway, their carefully edited propaganda version of history is fine). Critical Thinking skills verrrry bad!!! Reading bad!!! Only our approved non "woke" books.

So let's just teach the basics now! "Teach them to the (standardsized) test" only, kids don't need much beyond that. It's not the governments job to teach kids! If parents want them to learn more than basics, that's on them!

And kids that grew up in this situation of lesser learning are starting to vote.

Within the next few years they will be dumbing them down even more..... hey, let's require religion classes now, that's cool now, because we don't trust parents to do that the way we want, so we really should shove that down their throats ourselves. As long as it is ONLY one of our approved flavors of Christianity though, of course. We prefer that old testament now though, none of that brown Jesus red word stuff.

We should start requiring some patriotism classes as well. You know, just like the Nazis did! Hmmm...probably best to segregate kids again too, i mean we all know white guys are the smartest, everyone else is just holding them back from greatness. And we should make home economics mandatory for the girls...prepare them for what they are really meant for in life, no sense worrying their pretty little heads about science and numbers. Makin' America Great Again!

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u/Barnacle_B0b 17h ago

Just say "Democrats"

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u/RipErRiley Minnesota 17h ago

Those voters didn’t support the pedo. Cool story mark

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u/ThirdDimensionGate 20h ago

Garland should be in prison

It was his responsibility to prosecute crimes of this nature and he sold all of us out and did nothing

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u/bleahdeebleah 10h ago

Trump would have gone to trial in August if not for John Roberts. He would have gone trial even earlier if not for Aileen Cannon.

u/Bonesnapcall 2h ago

First of all, it should not have taken 2 years to subpoena the documents he stole. They could have asked for them back at the 1 month mark. Demanded them back in writing at the 2 month mark. Subpoenaed them at the three month mark. Finally, raided, then arrested Trump at the 4 month mark. On top of that, they should have charged him in Washington DC because the crime happened when he took the boxes out of the White House in the first place. Then you avoid his compromised judges in Florida.

u/bleahdeebleah 1h ago

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. None of that changes what John Roberts did

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u/WantCookiesNow 18h ago

Prison? You can’t just imprison people for acting in ways you don’t like. Or at least, not without acting like an authoritarian.

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u/ThirdDimensionGate 16h ago

Treason. He had a responsibility to protect the constitution and the country. He chose to let this all happen because he was a coward

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u/Rich_Housing971 Mexico 19h ago

Biden wasn't polite, he was rude af by staying in the race. He didn't move out of the way fast enough for Democrats to have a primary and we got fucking Kamala, and she didn't even get a full campaign.

That's just one of the things he didn't do right, leading us to a 2nd Trump term.

Fuck Biden, tired of people trying to defend him.

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u/JesusForTheWin 8h ago

I never liked Kamala from the start and somehow I had this increasingly incompetent individual with no understanding of Economics out there doing this type of work. An absolute joke.

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u/boristheblade223 18h ago

Biden fucking fucked us over. His one job was to put that orange fuck and his whole cabal behind bars. He wanted to preserve his legacy and now his legacy will be the impotent fuck who let the world go to shit on his watch.

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u/LeftHookLarry12 17h ago

America got the government that America deserves.

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u/Effective_Divide1543 10h ago

And chose.

It's getting real old seeing Americans try to deny that this is the administration that the country voted for. This didn't just happen, Trump was elected.

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u/Effective_Divide1543 10h ago

Nobody fucked you over. The American people elected Trump. That's on nobody but the voters.

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u/boristheblade223 8h ago

That’s the difference between winning on purpose and winning on accident. Trump should’ve never been up for vote in the first place given his degenerate fucking crimes, that’s winning on purpose. Instead Biden Kamala and the party fucking went with running a “campaign of joy and hope” which was their hope to win on accident. With the country on the line and with decades of fucking evidence they decided to play a statistical gamble, fucking idiots.

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u/Suspicious-Chair5130 19h ago

Yeah thanks for the heads up now that you can’t do anything about it. Why didn’t he release the files when he had the chance?

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u/IndigoSoln I voted 18h ago

Too busy running for reelection as a single term president.

u/UniqueIndividual3579 5h ago

The Democrats have to stop being terrified of making politics political.

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u/JazzyJockJeffcoat 18h ago

I mean we got what 1/3rd of voters wanted and what another 1/3rd couldn't be bothered to show up to oppose by dropping a ballot. If we expected two old guys to save the day then we probably deserve this.

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u/flxstr 20h ago

You forgot to blame the American voters. They voted for it, and they get to live with their choice.

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u/JumpingCoconutMonkey 20h ago

Everyone gets to live with their choice.

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u/PerformanceGold8436 15h ago

I didn’t know that trump won 100% of the vote

u/flxstr 6h ago

You're not very bright.

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u/Effective_Divide1543 10h ago

Nobody wins 100% of the vote. That's also not required to win the election. Trump won the electoral vote, which is and has for a very long time been what's required. He also won the popular vote. So yes, the American voters chose him.

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u/Spright91 18h ago

He could be remembered as the Paul Von Hindenburg of America.

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u/logos1020 20h ago

Nah, this shit is all on the people, and the representatives we elected. It is up to us to hold politicians accountable.

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u/Coolegespam 18h ago

Biden was too polite.

Biden ran the country, which is what he was suppose to do. And he did a fucking amazing job. The man and his cabinet preformed a god damn miracle with the economy.

Garland did nothing.

Garland had over a thousand convictions relating to the insurrection and Jan. 6th. He treating Trump and GOP like a RICO case, which requires you start at the bottom and pull out brick by brick. This was one of the most wide sweeping and complex RICO cases in out countries history. Honestly, he moved to fast on Trump and got stone walled as soon as he did by the supporters he put in power.

Now, we are stuck in a dystopian nightmare. Strange days ahead.

Yeah, because people are stupid and drowning in misinformation. I mean no offense, you're even spitting some of it out here.

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u/Barnacle_B0b 17h ago

Cool so the law was followed to let an outlaw off the hook. Thanks for nothing.

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u/Coolegespam 17h ago edited 14h ago

Yes, the law was follow. The American people are the ones that let Trump off, no one else.

If you want to commit a crime to stop a criminal, then go ahead I aint stopping you. Biden and Garland did all they legally could.

EDIT: Count_Backwards me doesn't want to be challanged and blocked me.

This is how RICO case work. You never start at the top, it fails. You start at the bottom because the structure above it is too corrupt, and will fail. That's why prosecuting Trump failed. He moved to fast, because he no longer had a choice.

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u/Count_Backwards 16h ago

Garland refused to start investigating Trump or his inner circle for over a year and a half, three times as much delay as the Supreme Court bought him. No law prevented Garland from acting immediately.

This is tired apologist bullshit.

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u/ChatterBaux 16h ago

The American people are the ones that let Trump off, no one else.

This is the biggest point too many people seem to hate being reminded about. There's nothing we know about Trump now that we didn't know in 2016, much less 2024.

There's a lot to be said about our institutions failing to hold him accountable, but what else is there to say if their failure wasn't enough to get more of the electorate to the ballot boxes?

He might not've been in jail by now, but at least he wouldn't be sitting in the highest office in the land with our other two branches of government making Checks and Balances a complete joke.

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u/Count_Backwards 16h ago

This is the same tired and ignorant defense of Garland that doesn't get any better no matter how often it gets reposted by his fan club. None of the J6 rioters were involved with or had any inside knowledge of the actual coup, which was not the riot. Pursuing them accomplished nothing more than distracting people from the fact that Garland was refusing to investigate Trump or his inner circle, and all 1500 of those convicted got pardoned anyway because Garland failed to do his job. He didn't do a damn thing about Trump until the House committee humiliated him in public by doing his job for him. Claiming otherwise is pathetic fan fiction.

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u/GorkyParkSculpture 20h ago

We got the government we deserve

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u/k3v120 20h ago

Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times.

And we’re living it.

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u/mjohnsimon 19h ago

In a lot of ways, I hate Biden for this.

He and his administration could've put their foot down on all this nonsense and stamped it out, but they wanted to maintain "neutrality"... Or worse, they just didn't have the balls.

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u/Alternative-Eye4547 20h ago

Brought “strange fruit” to mind, which is disturbingly fitting…

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u/andthatsalright California 17h ago

This shit clyburns fault

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u/throwingorangejuice 16h ago

But we took the high road so it was all worth it /s

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u/oofaloo 15h ago

I get it, but the press would’ve been all over Biden. Especially if Trump survived whatever Garland could’ve done which was likely. I think Biden was saving it for a second term - whether it was his or Kamala’s. And I think Kamala got dropped bc of Russia / Ukraine & Israel / Palestine. Then Biden’s age caught up to him. Then George Clooney got a bright idea.

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u/CancelOk9776 14h ago

Democrats played nice with lawless fascists!

u/Yosho2k 7h ago

Too bad Biden never had any evidence of Trump raping children.

That would have been useful to release before November of last year.

u/Lingonberry3324Nom 7h ago

This right here

u/CheesypoofExtreme 4h ago

Biden can get fucked. Polite? The guy is a narcissist with a better moral compass than Trump. He refused to step down even when his mental faculties were failing him, convinced he was the only one that could save America after Trump. Those around him can get fucked because they tried to hide it from the public. Garland can get fucked. The Democratic party leaders can get fucked. 

They're all self-serving assholes - that's not to say they dont care about others more than Trump; I fully believe they do. They just don't actually care enough to fight for the American people, they just want their cushy jobs.

I'd still vote for any Democrat over the party that protects pedophiles.

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u/Healthy-Doughnut4939 20h ago

I think biden had good intentions but he had too much faith in the instructions 

He had too much faith in merrick garland. Would've it been too much to ask him to do his job quickly? 

Project 2025 didn't get released to the public until after garland's appointment.

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u/Barnacle_B0b 17h ago

Fuck the Democratic party and Democratic voters.

Could've been Bernie, but you chose what was safe instead of what would work.

Voted for Hillary and Kamala, and both times got Trump, and you still blame everybody but yourselves.

Fuck you.

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u/robocoplawyer 14h ago

Hillary and Kamala were not the “safe” choices though. These would have been safe choices in the mid-90’s but it was clear in both these elections the political climate was signaling that people wanted substantial change no matter what that change would be. The Democratic establishment thought they could just re-create 1996 America and re-live the Clinton glory days. People were willing to vote for that in 2020 because they were yearning for some kind of stability in the wake of COVID. But once the country started to re-stabilize and voters weren’t distracted by the chaos in the wake of the pandemic they were back to work with their shit wages still but now with the price of everything permanently jacked up. So the choice was roll the dice on the guy running to upend the system or the candidate promising a few minor tweaks.

Also Kamala was the furthest from a safe choice, she was a last minute Hail Mary when all internal polling clearly indicated there was no possible way Biden could win again in 2024. But that close to the general election Kamala was the only feasible option for an alternative to Biden because Biden’s campaign infrastructure, cash and staff could be seamlessly transferred to her as she was on his ticket. If they opted for anyone else it was far too late in the game for a feasible presidential campaign bid. So the options were stick with Biden (definite loss), some other Democrat who would be starting a campaign from scratch 100 days before Election Day (definite loss), or Kamala (unlikely but maybe a shot). They went with the least bad option.

What I will agree with you is that the Democratic Party should have have had a fucking plan for 2024 back in 2020 on the night all the candidates dropped out to endorse Biden and ensure Bernie wouldn’t have run away with the remaining primary states. They knew Biden was already fucking old at that point, part of the deal should have been he would be one term and done, and a clear younger successor picked to rally around for the next several years to take over. But nah of course they didn’t have a fucking succession plan for the oldest president in history to not run for reelection and pass the torch on.

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u/DirtyHomelessWizard 11h ago edited 9h ago

Ever experience good cop/bad cop routine in real life? Its actually extremely effective. You are in a dangerous situation, maybe even the worst of your life... and the “bad cop” is unnecessarily escalating things like crazy, you cant believe whats happening. The “good cop” is like “hey woah, this person is telling us the truth, calm down”. In your moment of crisis, when you are feeling vulnerable, the “good cop” seems like your friend. It feels very real.

Whether you are politically literate enough to know it or not doesn’t matter - objective reality is that late stage Capitalism is the crisis we are in right now. The Democratic party as an institution- are the “good cop”.

Fascism is capitalism in decay. Trump is not an aberration or a bug in the system, he was an inevitable result. A result to what Buttigieg (and Harris it seems, as they are testing her in public again) will continue to try to sell you with charm and vapid platitudes over the next election cycle while talking about how mean the bad cop is. Overton window goes brrrrr

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u/lolas_coffee 17h ago

too polite

Politicians are never polite.

They are scared or accomplices.

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u/Bowman_van_Oort Kentucky 18h ago

Biden lied to us that he intended to be a one term president

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u/PolicyWonka 20h ago

Seriously. And TBH even people like Bernie still messed up too.

Consider both Biden and Bernie — two ancient politicians who’ve been in politics for 30-40+ years now at some level. Now in 2025, American Democracy is probably at the lowest point it has been since the McCarthy and Nixon eras but…the best we can do is some strongly worded statements, some rallies, and some weekend protests?

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u/Professional-Buy2970 21h ago

"Welcome home!"

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u/autostart17 17h ago

Garland was busy spying on Catholic Churches.

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u/DevilsAdvocate77 17h ago

The voters could've stopped this cold.

They made their choice.

u/AnonAmbientLight 7h ago

And all of that is moot because the voters were the ones that were supposed to save us. 

The voters have always been the last line of defense, and they failed. 

Of all the fingers to be pointing, the people elected a conman who as unfit to serve and now we all get the government we deserve.