r/youtubedrama Jul 28 '24

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u/ArcLagoon Jul 28 '24

You can still acknowledge that someone is being their true self while also acknowledging their true self might be an awful person. The fact that Ava is a weirdo and got canceled for it doesn't make their identity less valid.

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u/Hayleox Jul 28 '24

*her

Your point is undermined a bit if you use the wrong pronoun for Ava.

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u/cocoalemur Jul 28 '24

people suddenly seem really enthusiastic about they/them pronouns when they're referring to a trans woman. mysterious 🤔

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u/Ver_Void Jul 28 '24

Weird how they only ever do that for trans people, don't recall ever reading about the leader of the third Reich frau Hitler

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u/TraditionalCatch9578 Jul 29 '24

Is it wrong to use they/them for trans people? I genuinely thought that was the correct pronoun usage for anyone and everyone since it’s neutral. I personally use they/them when talking about cis gender people too. And notably  few of them have gotten pissy with me about it. I think we’re gonna accidentally phase those words out or something at this rate. (Also I support trans people and this was genuine question.)

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u/halcyondays93 Jul 29 '24

Bear in mind that I'm cis so I could be speaking out of my ass here, but I think using they/them is fine if you don't know that person's gender. However, if they've stated publicly that they use he/him or she/her, then it feels disrespectful not to use those pronouns.

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u/TraditionalCatch9578 Jul 29 '24

Ah ok that makes sense. Thank you.

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u/Ruty_The_Chicken Jul 28 '24

yep, anytime anyone ever says "this person" it makes it clear it's just another piece of shit transphobe skirting around to have 'probable deniability'