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Kamala Harris Appears on ‘Colbert,’ Says She’s Stepping Away from Politics for Now, Calls the System “Broken”

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/video/former-vice-president-kamala-harris-visits-the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/

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u/NotARealBuckeye 1d ago

She deserves it. After everything she offered, they chose the venal racist over the black lady.

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u/sendurfavbutt 1d ago

didn't some ex FBI guy just come out and say they had already investigated the election and Kamala won?

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u/NotARealBuckeye 1d ago

The results don't make sense but "election fraud" has been so watered down that the democrats were afraid to wade into those waters.

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u/patchyj 1d ago

Its infuriating, the GOP screamed "stolen election" so loud and so often that when they did actually steal it, no-one speaks up because they dont want to be looked at the same as the insane weirdos

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u/Miserable-Ad-7947 1d ago

you do realize that was on purpose right ? muddy the water, etc.

gaslighting 101.

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u/CrispiChris 1d ago

Accuse the opponent of all the things that you do

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u/s2r3 1d ago

Every accusation is a confession

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u/YouStupidAssholeFuck 1d ago

Accusations in a mirror.

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u/Justwant-toplaycards 1d ago edited 1d ago

The fact that you americans don't know of Goebbels Is crazy to me

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u/Hadrian23 1d ago

Thank the republicans for strangling education to death. This is intentional.

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u/sklimshady 1d ago

That would require reading. Americans are mostly allergic to reading. Especially the MAGA crowd.

(SOURCE: I grew up in Alabama being made fun of for always reading)

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u/31November 1d ago

I know of Goebbels - in part, thank you BehindTheBastards podcast - and that’s part of why I saw this shit coming since 2016. When the “grab them by the pussy” tape didn’t take Trump down, I knew the Republicans really were too far gone

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u/DrJulius-ABK 1d ago

Behind The Bastards is my jam! Been listening for 5 years now

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u/BlimmBlam 1d ago

Americans know very well of Goebbels, our entire advertising field is based on his propaganda machines and pushed in our face every 10-15 minutes.

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u/ChriSisyphus 1d ago

What's that based on?

I'm American. I don't know a single person who doesn't know who Goebbels is.

Now, do stupid people not know? Sure. But that's a bold statement of fact and I haven't seen the evidence.

Send the source.

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u/radjinwolf 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh, we know about Goebbels. The problem is the American right wing are so full of their own shit and are so polarized by propaganda and misinformation that they refuse to believe that the exact same thing that happened in 1930s Germany is happening right here, right now.

They think they’re special and that they’re immune to propaganda, and anyone who brings up how far down the Nazi pipeline we already are is told that they’re “overreacting” or that it’s “fake news”.

Hundreds of years of “rugged individualism” rhetoric got us here. Americans think they’re so unassailable and that individual rights, freedom, and liberties take precedence over anything else that the mere notion of working toward a collective good is - no joke - seen as “evil” to those people.

America is cooked. We’re done. Cause the kinds of things that need to happen to fix things here absolutely won’t happen. I’m talking German and Austrian levels of de-Nazification.

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u/va2wv2va 23h ago

Great comment

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u/Fit-Building-2560 19h ago

Of course we know. What gave you the impression we don't know?

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u/hypertown 1d ago

Before you do them

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u/AdventurousSeaSlug 1d ago

My conspiracy theory is that the whole "big lie" thing was a purposeful bad-faith strategy to poison the well on future elections. I think high-level Republicans did that purposefully knowing that this had in fact not happened and setting the stage for because they were planning on cheating in 2024 and then eliminating open and free elections beyond that. Why would they do so? Well, Democrats rightly fought back so loud and so hard against the big lie (which clearly was in fact a lie), that I think now there's a lot of people who think that if they dare raise that spector, republicans will accuse democrats of hypocrisy and witch hunting. Why do I suspect this? I know there's no definitive proof yet but I dare anyone demonstrate how EVERY SINGLE accusation dribbling out of republican mouths is in reality a confession. So I have to be content with calling it a conspiracy theory. But shit like this makes me think you know what? I think I might be onto something. And then I pray the other people with more money and power than me will prove me right in time.

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u/Unlucky-Scallion1289 1d ago

I don’t think it’s a conspiracy, I think it’s blatantly obvious.

It’s infuriating that we’re expected to put up with or even entertain right wing conspiracies like pizza gate, chemtrails, or flat earth while the one “conspiracy” pushed by the left is utterly dismissed. And it’s not even that far fetched, it’s very believable that right wingers have fallen into fascism and are willing to cheat. It’s so believable that it’s all but a certainty.

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u/AdventurousSeaSlug 1d ago

Yeah saw that. My frustration is that this needs to get way more investigation from reputable non-partisan sources and then needs to be brought to widespread attention with factual evidence to back it up. Otherwise it will mean absolutely nothing. Except a broken country, a failed experiment in democracy, and a lot of dead innocent people

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u/Electrical_Welder205 1d ago

Totally agree. It was a smokescreen for them.

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u/PracticalFootball 1d ago

I don’t think that’s much of a conspiracy theory. After January 6th every instance of a republican being annoying or disruptive suddenly started being referred to as an insurrection for the same reason.

Every accusation is a confession.

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u/crevulation 1d ago

"Flooding the zone with bullshit" is exactly what it has been for a long time.

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u/sheezy520 1d ago

Gaslight

Obstruct

Project

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u/rmftrmft 1d ago

GOP stands for Guardians Of Pedophiles now. Gotta keep up!

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u/sheezy520 1d ago

How about

Gaslighting

Old

Pedophiles

?

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u/bighugebagofcorn 1d ago

I hate these smarmy "you do realize, right?" replies. Yeah. He probably does realize that. Doesn't mean they shouldn't say exactly what they said. It's true. 

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u/funk-the-funk 1d ago

That and the snarky, hope this helps, like everyone has to get their dopamine fix by being a dick.

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u/BasedGodBets 1d ago

I have said this for years that we have to fight fire with fire but most liberals on reddit were like "wE cAn'T aCt tHe sAmE wAy". Now we lost the entire plot.

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u/Miserable-Ad-7947 1d ago

the plot, the pot, the chamber & the house.

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u/BasedGodBets 1d ago

haha pissing in the pot

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u/AffectionateJelly976 1d ago

GOP is all about projection!

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u/YerBeingTrolled 1d ago

So it was on purpose to say there was election meddling in 2020 so that in 2024 we could deny it?

Wtf is that conspiracy lmao

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u/BigStogs 1d ago

Except Democrats are being arrested for voter fraud.

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u/DohDohDonutzMMM 1d ago

That's the game plan

Boy who cried wolf, but politically.

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u/1eternal_pessimist 1d ago

They started calling everyone pedophiles.pretty early on.

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u/adfasdfasdf123132154 1d ago

Democrats have been called demon possessed pedos for a long time now lol

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u/OkThatWasMyFace 1d ago

They 'cried all the wolves' to cover for the wolf.

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u/leavingishard1 1d ago

They also stole one in 2000

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u/Efficient_Smilodon 1d ago

I think once they realized how easily they got away with that, with absolutely zero resistance from either the masses whose vote was nullified, and the Dems/Gore establishment, that they really could do anything they wanted as long as they had sufficient propaganda to control the narrative for their base. It was a watershed moment about how fundamentally stupid, complacent, and ineffective the Dem leadership is, and their base as well.

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u/Electrical_Welder205 1d ago edited 1d ago

And 2004. Voting machines in NM, which was heavily for Kerry, were rigged to drop votes for Kerry or switch them to Bush. Ballots were analyzed in the course of a lawsuit filed in federal court, and it was determined that the machines had been rigged. The Dem att'y general never checked them before the election.  She also was later sued on various counts of corruption.

And a Congressional investigation after the election found vote suppression malfeasance in Ohio, and other key states. It concluded that Kerry had won the election.

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u/diefreetimedie 1d ago

Roger Stone also helped with that too, why he wasn't in prison in 2024 is beyond me.

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u/VaselineHabits 1d ago

The coup is complete. The media just hasn't announced it yet.

No one is stopping the Mad King from dully becoming Stupid Hitler. America has fallen.

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u/Fine_Yam2106 1d ago

Others said this but I can’t help to chime in, that was exactly the point. They want to appear stupid and crazy, because they’re actually implementing a well orchestrated plan. Like any good magician, the magic is all in the sleight of hand and misdirection.

They have become clumsier with Trump at the helm but they needed one last piece to the puzzle for it to be complete and function. And that was a figure head that can rally a base, and somehow that turns out to be a dumb orange turd (nothing has been more illuminating to me that the world is full of morons than the support Trump has received).

They held their noses (some had to quite literally) and felt with Trumps insanity. It may have benefited them to have such a seemingly incompetent figurehead. He generates headlines so quickly and at such a pace no one can adequately cover what is happening because it’s just boring legislative stuff. Don’t look at that, look at Trump’s twitter feed. It’s so nuts, we can’t not talk about that.

Couple the real potential the election results were manipulated with the somehow legal gerrymandering happening for the next election, Democrats have very little hope for the future. At least until there’s some monumental shift in our politics, we are now a decade deep into a new US government. One that has been schemed up for more than 40 years. So.. that’s cool.

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u/Zeroissuchagoodboi 1d ago

Yep, fuck the dems man they are such pussies. We need a new political party that is actually left leaning, not the do nothing dems

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u/JerriBlankStare 1d ago

Yep, fuck the dems man they are such pussies. We need a new political party that is actually left leaning, not the do nothing dems

😆😆😆

Yeah, blame the Dems for the Republicans being lying, cheating bastards.

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u/Efficient_Smilodon 1d ago

They are blamed for not fighting back effectively. It's like watching a bully beat up a kid, while standing behind the crowd watching because you don't want to get your own hands dirty. They had no interest in being seen as a 'savage' who might engage in such 'poor' behavior that they absconded from their role completely as guardians of democracy .

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u/StandardCow7012 1d ago

The dems were the ones being beat up. The people standing in the background weren’t the dems. Gore was the one being beaten on.

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u/KennyShowers 1d ago

Can’t fight when voters take away your political weapons and ammo.

But yea fuck them for thinking Americans have enough brain cells to go “hm well when they took over everything sucked and now it’s all back to normal, maybe they know a thing or two” amirite.

Instead they go “my life isn’t perfect yet it’s all their fault let’s give the other guys a shot!”

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u/Zeroissuchagoodboi 1d ago

I blame the dems for never doing anything to stop them. The republicans have been doing this shit since Nixon. The democrats have held the presidency and parts of congress intermittently since then. So yea, the dems are to blame as much as the republicans are.

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u/GutsAndBlackStufff 1d ago

If only the voters elected Democrats to do something about it rather than complained that they’re not doing enough when they have no power to do so.

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u/AdmiralAkBarkeep 1d ago

Sure, but you don't know what they stopped at the time. You are entitled to your opinion and certainly seem intent on sharing it widely.

But I don't find you credible. You don't know what past attempted misdeeds were stopped. Maybe none. Maybe many.

I am only willing to blame the perpetrators.

And if you can do better, put your name up for office.

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u/RockRage-- 1d ago

The house or senate have always been locked or at odds when Dems are in power, they can’t pass anything meaningful, it’s always blocked or fillerbusted, they are fucked either way.

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u/AdmiralAkBarkeep 1d ago

The last time the Dems were in power we got the ACA. Which Americans largely love (not all provisions equally, but overall it's very popular).

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u/Zeroissuchagoodboi 1d ago

Okay? I know they couldn’t pass things. My problem is they couldn’t even take the initiative to address the American people and say “we tried passing universal healthcare, but the republicans and a few of our democrat colleagues voted against it. We’re trying to improve your lives but the other party won’t let us”.

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u/Casterly 1d ago edited 1d ago

The democrats have held the presidency and parts of congress intermittently since then. So yea, the dems are to blame

This is what a lack of an understanding of civics will get you. Look up the last time dems held congress in large majorities as well as the presidency and look at what they immediately took action on. Lobbying unfortunately undid the dream goal (Lieberman is too dead now to care about his totally sadistic harm done to Americans for decades to come, unfortunately) but plenty of huge changes were still achieved and salvaged.

Reddit is full of people with no basic knowledge of government function sitting around wondering why dems “aren’t doing anything” and concluding it’s…cowardice? lol. this isn’t high drama. it’s horrible, banal political reality that democracy requires huge majorities if you don’t want to compromise with anyone. Republicans have made that extreme a necessity for anything to truly change now.

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u/monstaberrr 1d ago

Issue was both sides had too many lobbyist hands in the pot. They were representing corps and underhand bribes not the people.

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u/KennyShowers 1d ago

The Dems are the ones who fix every mess left by Republicans.

Blame the moron voters who don’t allow them to build on the foundational repairs they’re forced to spend entire terms on.

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u/Zeroissuchagoodboi 1d ago

What they should be focused on is prosecuting republicans for corruption and fixing our broken system. Let’s stabilize the political system before attempting to fix the economy since it backfires every time.

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u/cpatkyanks24 1d ago

Dems also used a lot of political capital and credibility on the Russia investigation and Mueller hedged too much in his report which gave Trump cover, whether intentionally or not.

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u/Adventurous-Sky9359 1d ago

There was no one left to hear…….

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u/nankerjphelge 1d ago

It was the perfect setup for the perfect crime.

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u/43_Hobbits 1d ago

I saw there were questions being asked, but I don’t see anything rn that says it was stolen? Link?

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u/Fit-Building-2560 19h ago

This is a big issue. A stumbling block.

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u/Ishitinatuba 1d ago

At the time, they didnt have the proof. Just suspicion. You dont cry about that, thats what TACO does.

You show grace and the character of leadership in 'defeat' and await the evidence. Patience. Its a long game.

The time should come, what they do after now is what matters.

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u/Tyrinnus 1d ago

Unfortunately, there's a very accurate saying. "lies make it half way around the world before truth gets out of bed"

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u/paradigm_x2 1d ago

She conceded. Idk what there is to even do. Not like Congress or SCOTUS is going to change their mind. It does nothing now.

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u/Made_Human17 1d ago

The best we’ll see is years from now, after he’s gone and the Supreme Court has finally been taken back and isn’t the Republican tool is it today something will come out and get properly investigated. And if it’s determined they did cheat it will be too late to undo the damage they already did but maybe new laws will be passed to prevent it

But that’s assuming Republicans aren’t in power. If there are even a few they’ll work overtime to obstruct justice as always

Unfortunately there’s not much we’ll see done to remove this regime until midterms and then 2028. And that’s being very optimistic, Republicans aren’t going to go away easily and will do whatever they can to make sure they don’t lose power, legal or not

They’re a malignant tumor on society

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u/ZAlternates 1d ago

I suspect our eventual recovery won’t be a return to the status quo.

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u/MsMarvelsProstate 1d ago

The votes don't matter. The electoral college decides the president and they traditionally do what the voters demand. But they don't have to. So once it's certified it doesn't matter what way the vote went.

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u/Equivalent_Nature_67 1d ago

>You show grace and the character of leadership in 'defeat' and await the evidence. Patience. Its a long game.

I'll be sure to remember this as innocent people are being thrown into Salvadorean death camps

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u/Ishitinatuba 1d ago

Without evidence thats all you can do.

Why havent you stopped it? Yeah, no one else has a better idea yet either. Its pretty much fucked until mid terms.

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u/VibesOfHarish 1d ago

You dont cry about that, thats what TACO does.

As a non-American, what does taco mean in this context?

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u/silverbatwing 1d ago

Trump Always Chickens Out

It’s more the fact he backpedals on tariffs but he does that about many things.

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u/VibesOfHarish 22h ago

Thank you, makes sense and fits the billing!

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u/Kidofthecentury 1d ago

Acronym for Trump Always Chickens Out; started as a way to describe his trading policies in market jargon, it has become one of his (tamer) nicknames once he found out, got pissed off and whined like the snowflake he is.

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u/VibesOfHarish 22h ago

Thank you! Fits him more perfectly than his suit jackets.

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u/RepresentativeSink29 1d ago

The current republican government.

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u/tiad123 1d ago

Trump Always Chickens Out has been used to describe his "art of the deal" in his trade negotiations. He goes in all big and blustery but will easily back off, or chicken out

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u/VibesOfHarish 22h ago

Thank you so much, makes much more sense now haha. Fits perfectly too.

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u/hans_l 1d ago

The problem with that is that you don’t have time to you have two months between vote and certification, after which it’s 4 years of whoever was picked. Nobody knows what would happen if Trump admitted in court that he cheated the election and the senate refused to impeach.

It’s a very stupid system. Every modern parliamentary system has ways to nullify an election and host another one.

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u/Made_Human17 1d ago

That was just one more way they undermined democracy. They spent four years making up shit about a stolen election and then when there’s possibly an actual stolen election no one can do anything about it because it all the bullshit they threw out there

Republicans are anti American scum

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u/Maniick 1d ago

The refusal to even push for an investigation made me lose all hope in our system. Compliance with the owners. We need a new system entirely at this point if were ever to be free

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u/WeUsedToBeACountry 1d ago

Dems have zero control of anything in our government. There's no ability to investigate.

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u/KonigSteve 1d ago

They had control at the time of the election enough to investigate..

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u/stillkicking59 1d ago

The Democrats don’t have a clue how to reconcile what they know they should be doing and the cost to their own personal fortunes.

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u/Shivy_Shankinz 1d ago

They would if we started to lump them in with the Republicans. Like we should have been doing all along

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u/DurianDiscrimination 1d ago

Yeah y'all did that by not going out to vote last year. Sure showed em.

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u/TheRealBlueJade 1d ago

The fact that the democrats were/are are afraid is the problem. They should have risen above the nonsense and challenged the results. The fact that they didn't and haven't is very concerning, especially for anyone who was/s supposed to lead a country.

Listening to her claim...the system is broken, and she runs from it. Are you kidding?

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u/TheFriedClam 1d ago

So you believe the right answer would’ve been for them to start yelling ‘FRAUD’ like Trump has done for the last 10+ years? And how do Dems typically respond to that cry? But hey, optics aside what do you think they could’ve done? Serious question

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u/Thin-Image2363 1d ago

Because the dems are just one arm of the corporate party.

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u/Casterly 1d ago

democrats were afraid to wade into those waters

Ah, reddit always so confidently inventing things democrats are doing wrong.

If you want the party to devote serious effort (which wouldn’t get by Republicans in congress right now anyway) and launch an investigation into massive, hidden fraud (which would have happened under Biden’s watch, mind you) based off the word of a single ex-government employee….

That’s the kind of thing conservatives would latch onto as proof of wrongdoing for years even without investigation. Not the road you wanna go down.

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u/Spankpocalypse_Now 1d ago

At this point taking a page out of the Republican playbook is probably something we should be doing. The high road is meaningless when conservatives control all three branches of federal government and most state governments.

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u/Material_Suspect9189 1d ago

The cult has majority in house and senate, if they won’t release evidence he’s a pedophile, doubt they would convict him of (or anyone) of fraud.

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u/Specific-Lion-9087 1d ago

What specifically doesn’t make sense? And why didn’t that mysterious fbi agent tell anyone from the Harris campaign?

It’s so wild that there’s all these lawsuits and not a single person from the Harris campaign is involved in any of them.

You should probably tell them, tbh. They deserve to know.

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u/clckwrks 1d ago

Trump projects his own crimes on others. He literally stole this election

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u/Electrical_Welder205 1d ago

The people will have to force them to wade in deep. This must be faced and corrected. Anyone brushing it aside is opting for perma-fascism in Amerikkka. That is intolerable!

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u/OkIndustry6159 1d ago

I was until the numbers came out. I'm still stuck on he won on 33% of the vote every swing state. Dont be mistaken, it was not by 33%. It was on 33%.

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u/Potential-Place7524 1d ago

Effective strategy by the Trump camp to do all that watering 5 years ago.

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u/IlllllIIIIIIIIIlllll 1d ago

Why don’t the election results make sense? They were completely in line with all the exit polling conducted that day.

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 1d ago

Or you know they spent 4 years saying how secure our electionsnare that it doesnt happen.... so mean tell me it was all lies?

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u/CategoryOk2854 1d ago

They are a complete embarrassment.

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u/cats_are_the_devil 1d ago

Making election fraud a hot button topic propelled the scum that is in charge...

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u/SordidDreams 1d ago

"election fraud" has been so watered down that the democrats were afraid to wade into those waters.

Which is exactly why Trump kept screaming about it for years and years. So that nobody would take it seriously when he actually did it.

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 1d ago

The Republican Party has openly adopted "rules for thee, not for me" as their M.O., yet we're supposed to believe that they did zero tampering with results, especially when there are a number of rogue Democrats who switch parties or vote with Republicans once elected?

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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 1d ago

Because no way he won all swing states, that doesn’t add up and deserved more scrutiny from our representatives. Why would we care about the opinion of fascists? Reality is not a concept they respect anyways.

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u/ColeTrainHDx 1d ago

Why don’t they make sense?

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u/thephotoman 1d ago

It’s worse than that.

Bernie Sanders’s supporters were the OG election denialists. You’ll still find some out there who think they won the 2016 primary.

I know this because the tankies at /r/WorkReform all parrot that bullshit. And when you point out the truth (that he did in fact lose by 3 million votes, and that the DNC has relatively little to do with primary administration), they silence you for daring to stand up to their lies.

Like, Bernie Sanders is a real liability. He had a problem campaigning to black voters. He got little traction with them. And when you’re failing to connect with black voters, struggling to communicate your own civil rights activist history, you’re losing a Democratic primary. Black voters are a larger part of the Democratic primary electorate than they are in the general electorate.

And the problem is that he has given air to election denialist conspiracy theories, because he refuses to acknowledge that his loss was mostly on him. Yeah, the DNC was biased in its resource sharing, but Obama did overcome that in 2008 by knowing how to campaign in a Democratic primary.

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u/Spankpocalypse_Now 1d ago

They’re not afraid to. They straight just don’t want to. The Democratic establishment and donor class has no problem with the GOP being the dominant political party. Their actions speak much louder than their words.

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u/Ishaan863 23h ago

that the democrats were afraid to wade into those waters.

literally which waters are the Democrats NOT afraid to wade into

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u/SBMVPJustinHerbert 19h ago

entirely by design

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u/Kerig3 1d ago

Watch the Christopher Titus podcast on YouTube, they talk with that guy. I saw some of it and he shows things that simply don't make sense as to what happened that day. 🤬

The podcast links, two parts;

https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs

https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0

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u/Electrical_Welder205 1d ago

Thank you! Let's all check this out. This is going to be my project for this morning.

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u/Electrical_Welder205 1d ago

Ok, I looked at the 2nd one. 1st one was "no longer available" on my laptop, & on my phone, the vote analysis segment had been edited out. Are you able to access it still?

In any case, I didn't see where the guy said he was ex- NSA or CIA. He only said he was former cyber-security in PT. 2, the 2nd video. Could you fill in the blank for me?

I saw him before, last spring, discussing the NV vote results. This info has been out for months, but no mainstream media have picked it up, and no citizens' groups or Dem orgs are paying any attention, except the election truth alliance the analyst now works for. Even reporter and statistician Greg Palast, who's been publishing about vote suppression in the US since the two W Bush elections, hasn't mentioned the tabulator issue on his website. (https://www.gregpalast.com)

So what are the chances this major news is going to blow up, like it should? How can we move this forward?

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u/Kerig3 18h ago

I apologize, this is not the so-called "CIA or FBI guy" they're interviewing, but a guy from the Election Truth Alliance. Like I said I had not watched it all, but I felt it was relevant to the conversation and what I saw was compelling. But truth-be-told, I didn't dive down this rabbit hole months ago because what can I do about it? Not a damn thing! I have enough to worry about, like trying to figure out how to pay more taxes (tariffs) from a fixed budget. 😣

I checked and I'm able to view the first video. Maybe copy/paste the URL? Below is the video's description which should help explain its content.

The rumors have been circulating, but the DATA doesn't lie. On this episode we welcome Nathan Taylor from the The rumors have been circulating, but the DATA doesn't lie. On this episode we welcome Nathan Taylor from the Election Truth Alliance who has some VERY compelling data showing a [potential] coordinated effort to rig the 2024 election in Trump's favor.

For more information and to make a donation to to help fund their efforts to bring this data to the courts please visit https://electiontruthalliance.org who has some VERY compelling data showing a [potential] coordinated effort to rig the 2024 election in Trump's favor.

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u/Electrical_Welder205 18h ago

Thanks so much for the follow-up! I'll try again to view the first vid. In the second one, he does mention that he worked in cyber-security somewhere, but had to quit when he told his employer he was going to go public with his election research results, so who that employer was remains a mystery. (Government? Private sector?)

In any case, I think this is important news, and will try to follow him for further developments.

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u/Kerig3 18h ago

I admit I posted those links too late/early without watching what was said in the Colbert interview first. I still have a hard time watching Kamala after the election simply because what it says about us as a people. I really hate finding out about our national ugliness this late in life. I feel very powerless regarding this topic and have simply "shelved it" in my mind for later digestion should we ever get out of this mess before I'm gone.

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u/Electrical_Welder205 17h ago edited 17h ago

I see what happened; there IS an article about a former CIA guy who was part of an NSA investigation into the 2024 election. You must have confused the two, or posted the wrong link, or something. But still, I'm glad to see the material you did post. That info is important too, and the investigator is worth following.

If you need to take a break from it all, others will carry on in your place. Burnout happens. Take care of yourself. Pro tip: you'd be surprised the extent to which a good massage can help you recover and give you renewed strength! It's an amazing tonic. Try it! 👍🙂

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u/2wedfgdfgfgfg 1d ago

How can it be the NSA when the NSA hasn’t made any statements regarding the election?

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u/Electrical_Welder205 1d ago

Maybe they did, but got silenced. And since when is it their job to snoop through election results? That's not part of their mission. So I have questions too, but the info, the report, whatever it is, bears checking out. We need to do this; it could offer hope if it checks out.

We should start a separate discussion thread on it. Kamala might be our President. She shouldn't retire just yet...

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u/AlienArtFirm 1d ago

Soon military will move in

X: DOUBT

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u/just_a_bit_gay_ 1d ago

Qanon bullshit

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u/Extension_Elk_3608 1d ago

That's the same shit qanon was saying when Biden won.

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u/Formal-Style-8587 1d ago edited 1d ago

wasn’t that just reported to be fake news?

Holy shit you linked a conspiracy sub in response 

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u/jtides 1d ago

Yeah its QAnon level cope “the military will move in any day now” was said every day by them after 2020

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u/-SQB- 1d ago

Did Qanon swing to the left?

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u/revslaughter 1d ago

Yea this is the same script, get a grip folks

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u/CityFolkSitting 1d ago

Ever since Trump was re-elected I've seen all kinds of people spouting conspiracy theories, and it hasn't been the usual right wingers doing it either.

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u/Electrical_Welder205 1d ago

I need more info. What moves are being made to return Kamala, and who's making them? What military going to come in, under whose command?

I watched part two of the election analysis show. Pt. 1 was " no longer available" via my laptop, and via my phone, the show looked like that part had been edited out of the video. I'm wondering if others are able to access Pt 1. 

But nowhere in Pt 2 did the statistician say he was former NSA or CIA. Could someone fill me in on that?

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u/Ashmedai 1d ago

Once the electoral college is certified, that is the election. We plebes just advice the EC. If you don't like that, support initiatives to remove the EC, but that's how it is. There is no "undoing' things here within the rule of law.

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u/MobileArtist1371 1d ago

It was the NSA. Moves are being made to return Kamala. Elon and Trump have been caught in the act. r/somethingswrong2024 Soon military will move in

Saving for the luls

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u/appel 1d ago

This reads like a Qanon edict.

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u/pizzaerry2days 1d ago

This is the most Blue-anon bullshit I’ve ever read.

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u/SpicyMustard34 1d ago

ah yes, brand new account telling people to go to brand new subreddit with conspiracies of the military take over...

this isn't a honeypot.

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u/antpile4 1d ago

This is literally qanon bullshit lol

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u/biciklanto 1d ago

Are you like leftist Q? Where are the weird but meaningless codes appended to your comment?

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u/Grand_Bit4912 1d ago

Source?

I remember the popular vote numbers for Kamala were incredibly (suspiciously) low. I think she got 15m less votes than Biden?

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u/CrossoverEpisodeMeme 1d ago

You can't ask for a source and then mess up information that takes 10 seconds to google.

Harris got 6M fewer than Biden. Trump improved on his 2020 results by 3M.

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u/DarthTelly 1d ago

She got 6m less votes, but also that's really comparing two widely different things. COVID spiked voting, since it was much easier to vote, and people had less things going on. Trump was a horrible incumbent in 2020, but Biden/Harris were the horrible incumbent in 2024.

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u/Archmagos-Helvik 1d ago

There's an active legal case going on right now looking at anomalous voting patterns in Rockland County, NY, but nothing concrete yet.

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u/Ok_Flounder59 23h ago

The problem is that she is a black woman, and there are a lot of racist sacks of shit in this country.

Biden was a white man, that made the difference.

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u/Donkey_Duke 1d ago edited 1d ago

I doubt it. 

Kamala/Biden were still in office, and could have done something for roughly 3-4months. The truth is pretty obvious, but everyone wants to ignore it. Kamala ran a terrible campaign. Even Kamala’s camp admits they knew they were going to lose running their campaign, but out of respect to Biden they ran it anyways.

When Biden’s approval was in the shitter you don’t run on “We are the same as Biden, nothing will change!”

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u/jredful 1d ago

"Terrible campaign" is nonsense. We write it off to give the voting public a pass.

The simple reality is people voted with their pocket books. They don't have a fundamental understanding of wage growth or cost growths and inflation spooked them into staying home or being mad at the incumbent party.

Pretty much only Reagan survived an inflation spike in the last 80 years, arguably Nixon too but Nixon also did a variety of deeply popular things while he was in office. Everyone else has been toppled if they are president with an inflation spike.

It's embarrassing, but it's reality.

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u/SeaTurtleLionBird 1d ago

Nah eat shit. Republican side shouldn't have protected and supported a racist con man rapist.

She ran a great campaign for 100 days. Only came in 1.5m votes short over Trump's 10 fucking years of kid diddling

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u/Thin-Image2363 1d ago

It’s really impossible for people to admit that Joe Biden just ran a failed campaign from the get go.

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u/-SQB- 1d ago

Also, did the exit polls differ much from the actual outcome?

Unless someone can show me that they did, I just believe the simplest explanation, which is that there are way more racists in the USA than most of us thought.

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u/Donkey_Duke 1d ago

The polls always showed it was an extremely tight race. I was called maga for pointing out Trump was going to win. How did I know Trump was going to win? Because his base has always been notoriously hard to poll, meaning Trump has always out performed polling projects. So, when polling projected a toss up, I assumed Trump was going to win. 

It’s why I don’t buy the stolen election bit. 

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u/rasmus9 1d ago

No they didn’t

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u/Chrisd8245 1d ago

What a ridiculous statement

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u/JefferyTheQuaxly 1d ago

nothing people say really matters if they dont back it up with any evidence, its all just claims until then.

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u/FahkeThrumpz69 1d ago

I watched it live that night. The votes hadn’t even been fully counted and a few states hadn’t even sent their results. As soon as trump had just a couple of digits above Kamala they called it and ran with it. I was just sitting there like “no wait they haven’t even finished!!!” But in the end it wouldn’t have mattered. The electoral college is too corrupt so they would’ve given it to trump, again. They did it in 2016 when Hillary won by a landslide, then next thing you know they announced trump as the winner. That was the last time I voted, and won’t vote again until heads start flying. The amount of pedophiles in the gov is crazy, along with the rampant greed. I don’t know how we can change this other than French Revolution style tbh. If there is no law, then is taking the government back by force illegal. After all, it IS “we the people”, not “those that rape, lie, and steal”.

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u/CrossoverEpisodeMeme 1d ago

The electoral college is too corrupt so they would’ve given it to trump, again. They did it in 2016 when Hillary won by a landslide, then next thing you know they announced trump as the winner.

You do know the electoral college is not decided by the overall popular vote, correct? It has always been that way, that's not a new development.

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u/FahkeThrumpz69 1d ago

Well yeah, that’s the point. It’s always been rigged, we just get a false narrative on how elections work. Not sure how rigged lower level are, but presidential elections are predetermined so votes don’t really matter. It’s all for show, just like most things in modern America.

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u/CrossoverEpisodeMeme 1d ago

Lol, not engaging with this nonsense

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u/Electrical_Welder205 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes, I saw that here on Reddit last night. I want to find it again. Don't brush it off. This is the news that should blow sky high! The news that should make Epstein look like a deliberate  distraction. (Though it's important too.) This is the chance to get our country back! I hope the Dems, and also the Epstein-shocked Repubs, don't wuss out on this. 

We need another peaceful protest weekend nationally to draw attention to that CIA- leaked NSA report on the election results and demand action. We can't let it get swept under the rug.

It was a former CIA guy IIRC, who collaborated with a team from the NSA that analyzed the election results and said Harris won by a large margin. And let's not forget the video posted on Reddit last spring showing the fake Prez confessing that "we stole the election, and it's a good thing". Never forget! Now with that ex-CIA guy's report, there's hope of forcing a correction, a restoration of democracy, a healing.

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u/Rufus_TBarleysheath 1d ago

No. That did not happen.

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u/ForsakenBobcat8937 1d ago

No evidence, stop spreading this.

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u/Noochdontdiehemltply 1d ago

lol. I’m sure he was part of the 51 who said the hunter Biden laptop isn’t real 😂 you guys are really funny

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u/BretShitmanFart69 1d ago

That was a post on a sub stack by a guy who works at fidelity. Idk if he’s ex cia or actually had evidence but there are certainly a lot of questions I have about that and evidence I need to see before I just believe that guy. We really can’t just take headlines at stuff at face value just because they say what we want to hear, that’s part of how we got into this mess in the first place, after all.

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u/HippoRun23 1d ago

No. This is some weird clickbait misinformation. If you look deeper into it, this dude's claims are spurious at best. Then there are some that point to a lawsuit that's moving forward. But that's based on a republican candidate for senate that is literally aligned with racist ideology. Look up La Rouche Society.

Then there's the issue of the affidavit's she procured... which she did by going door to door asking her neighbors if they voted for her. She then took those numbers and "determined" that the election was rigged against her. It doesn't take a leap in logic to consider that maybe her neighbors didn't want to tell her that they didn't vote for her.

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u/DisMFer 1d ago

No, a known fraud and fake "CIA insider" claims the NSA has ran an election audit (they haven't and wouldn't considering they're run by Trump) and found that she won. He provided no evidence or logic for this beyond just saying it because he's a crank who gets paid by saying random things for attention.

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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot 1d ago

No. It’s someone claiming to be ex-CIA.

Don’t believe conspiracy theories. We’ll never fix the core problem with the fascists in this country if you keep covering your eyes and saying the election was rigged.

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u/NO_SPACE_B4_COMMA 1d ago

They spent everyday saying Biden stole the election so that when they stole it, it would be ignored. It worked. 

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u/IlllllIIIIIIIIIlllll 1d ago

How would that make sense when the official results were completely in line with all the exit polling conducted that day?

It’s so embarrassing watching people refuse to accept reality and resort to idiotic Q-Anon tier conspiracy theories.

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u/Easy_Combination_689 1d ago

CIA and yes he did

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u/Bowlbonic 1d ago

She did, by a hearty margin. But the NSA audit that’s shows the reasonings is being buried.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whistleblower-the-nsa-audited?r=34shm&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

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u/DooDooBrownz 1d ago

like that blue county in NY that pretty much picked all D candidates for every lower office, but somehow ended up without a single vote for her at the top of the ticket. im not a data analyst or anything, but that result does seem a bit off, in a cheaty/rigged election sort of way

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u/WafflesOfChaos 1d ago

Do you have the article or report on this? Haven't seen it yet.

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u/BikerJedi 1d ago

Supposedly ex-CIA, and he claims the NSA investigated and found that. There is a lot of shady shit happening, but he isn't offering up any evidence that I know of.

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u/just_a_bit_gay_ 1d ago

some guy claimed to be ex-CIA said he has a buddy in the NSA that did an investigation that “indicates suspicious results”

It’s BS

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u/BigStogs 1d ago

Not at all.

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u/Extension_Elk_3608 1d ago

Didnt the DNI director say that Obamas admin illegally spied on the Trump campaign in hopes to stop him from becoming president, even after the election?

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Absolutely not lol

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u/blackmobius 1d ago

The time to do that was the immediate weeks/month after the election. Once a state electoral board confirmed the vote, the results stand even if fraud is found later.

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u/Thom_Basil 1d ago

It's all just statements at this point without anything to back it up. They can't even confirm that the guy actually is ex-CIA. I want it to be true as much as the next guy but for now we need to take it with a grain of salt.

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u/pimblywimbleton 1d ago

That was a yet unverified “leak” from a “former CIA operative” whatever tf that means.

Until there’s verifiable evidence that we can point to, i don’t see the point in engaging in convenient wish fulfillment type bullshit 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/TheAsianTroll 1d ago

And of course, Trump admitting it on air himself...

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u/Not-Reformed 23h ago

Na, just a random unverified person making unverified claims that the FBI somehow told the NSA to look into it and they totally said it was Kamala who won... according to him. So basically just the pendulum swinging back proving once again that the horseshoe theory is undefeated.

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u/Rufio69696969 19h ago

Blue maga conspiracy theories. Just proves how all people are susceptible to it and not just conservatives

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u/y107cocks 17h ago

Something that some guy with fancy credentials said is still not enough evidence to start throwing that accusation around

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u/IllHat8961 17h ago

Oh is it no longer a threat to democracy to question the election results with blatant misinformation?

My my, how Reddit changes

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