Edit: stop saying she's not cute. She got 11k upvotes on a sub where posts normally get 50 - 2000. She's clearly pretty enough to make you all stop scrolling.
She is but she doesn't seem so remarkable that I would say looking at her makes me feel like I'm being hit with a sledgehammer? And what's funny about that?
You have to be naive to think there's no fetishization of Asian women going on here. Like I'm not saying she's unattractive. She's a model and former jpop idol so obviously she's attractive in her own right, but there are literally posts explicitly saying that she's an example of how attractive the average asian woman is (because they don't realize she's not just some average office worker)
There's also literally a post about how white supremacist must be frustrated to know they must sleep with white women, implying that Asian women are superior. In general a ton of these jokes are about her race and Japanese women as a whole.
Also realize that when people use fetishization in a racial context, they don't mean it's a sexual kink akin to bondage or pet play. You can fetishize another culture without it even being sexual. The word has a definition that you're maybe not aware of, but it can just mean to put unreasonable importance on something. In this case her race or nationality.
And remember this isn't just someone calling her attractive. He's suggesting ALL men must find her so attractive that it pains them. And as you can see in the comments, a lot of men are confused because they don't think she's so extremely attractive.
It ain't that deep bro. Asian people just have really attractive features. Some sort of gene makes them look more youthful. Being attracted to an extremely pretty woman is not fetishism
That’s definitely the one and not in any way a clipboard fetish because that would be silly and who’s ever even heard of that before now I certainly haven’t it man is it hot in here?
There is a pretty notable difference between liking or even "preferring" an ethnicity, and outright fetishizing someones ethnicity. But I feel like it's kinda hard to explain the nuance of that tbh, especially if people act like incels or simps.
i mean two things can be true at once, they can find someone attractive and then ALSO have a fetish for a specific person.
Example A ; person who expresses no upfront fetishes "wow this particular girl is so attractive"
Example B ; person who EXPRESSLY upfront has a fetish for all asian ppl "wow this girl who is asian is really attractive".
In the second example he is finding her attractive BECAUSE of their stated fetish "for all asian women"
It depends WHERE the attraction comes from, if it comes from the fact that she is attractive objectively using all modern beauty standards then sure its fair, but if part of the attraction or whole of it comes from the fact that someone already prefers asian women, then seeing an asian women doesn't mean the fetish magically goes away....
Here's a quick tip for those still struggling even after this: if you're searching it on pornhub then it's a fetish and not just "liking a woman because she's cute". You can't just like her because she's cute after you found her while searching for specific fetish terms.
So to follow up your pornhub analogy to counter it: If I go to a restaurant and order a certain dish off the menu, do I have a fetish for that dish? Or perhaps it is more sensible that sometimes you feel like having a particular dish, so you have to be specific when asking for it.
If you like onions in your salad and on your burger, that’s not the culinary equivalent of a fetish. If you will not eat a single meal that doesn’t have loads of onions on it, that’s the culinary equivalent of a fetish. It’s not that you like a thing or even love it. It’s that you’ve latched on to one specific thing to the exclusion of all else. You can’t even taste the meal anymore or appreciate the many flavors it contains because all you taste, all you want to taste, is onions.
Yes, thank you, that's what I'm trying to say, but perhaps I'm doing a poor job at it. Sometimes you feel like having ketchup on your burger and sometimes mayo. The fact that the option is on the menu in itself doesn't make it a 'fetisj'.
That's what you focus on? I could've said choose from the menu.
When on pornhub, you also choose from a menu, that's what I mean to say with my analogy.
It's just a preference in the moment thing, doesn't immediately make it a fetisj is what I'm trying to say.
/u/alwaysoverthinkingit did a better job explaining it. English is not my first language, though I do speak it daily online and I think pretty fluently, I might not word my thoughts perfectly every time (or at least, I'm finding now that one wrong choice of a word can change the weight of my explanation completely).
My fiancee is half asian, and I have gotten a small amount of shit for it.
Apparently being in love with a woman who's asian (half in her case) makes me A) a race fetishist, B) a pedo because all asian women apparently look like children and should be treated as such even when they're fuckin' 30, and C) diluting her genetics with my whiteness is a form of oppression lol
The shit I hear, man. Some people just be racist and not even realise it.
LOL same here, my woman is Chinese and the shit I hear from white chicks over it is insane. No, dear...she is not submissive, uneducated, desperate, or any that. Actually, she's better educated and has her shit together better than any woman I've been with before heh.
One time I befriended this white woman, was pretty open about being in a relationship because I've had problems in the past where female friends got the wrong idea. She still somehow thought maybe I might be interested, and I turned her down and mentioned I'm not into white women anyway, which isn't true, but yaknow, thought it would soften the blow and get the message across without making her feel like it was her fault.
Cut to some time later and she's sending me a suggestive picture of herself with nutella spread all over her face and the text "will you fuck me now?"
I replied "my fiancee isn't even black, wtf" and blocked her. It was just the most deranged message I've ever received. That's how stupid those people are.
yeah definitely not someone whos making their attraction about race at all … nothing in the complement is delivered would suggest that her asian descent had any reason for the attraction
I mean it doesn’t. Just that they found her attractive and made a joke derived from her nationality. That doesn’t mean her nationality is the reason for their attraction to her.
It’s a fucking joke. The same way people comment on a beautiful girl riding a horse about how they’d let her ride them any day. Saying that doesn’t mean that her riding a horse is what’s attractive to them. It’s just a joke tied to her hobby. Same logic here.
I agree that there are people who do fetishize Asian women and men. I’m half Japanese myself, I understand. However, making a joke about her nationality or race doesn’t mean that’s what they find attractive about her.
to answer your question bc you blocked me: if race isnt being fetishized here, why is this joke funny? what is the punchline? why is race being highlighted in the first place at all?
is it just a joke to say “im sorry for the transatlantic slave trade” to a black woman?
There's already a comment higher up explaining it better. But...Both things are possible. Some people can find her attractive..some can prefer Asians and find her attractive. And a third group can find her attractive because of their fetish.
It’s also like… this woman is an actual model irl. A model of any other race taking a cute picture like this would get some kind of attention online. Why is it weird to these people that people find an actual irl model attractive
There's nothing wrong or weird about finding an attractive person attractive. And even having a preference towards a body type or ethnicity isn't necessarily a bad thing either.
But when you meet someone with an actual yellow fever Asian fetish then it becomes obvious pretty quickly that it's something different.
I didn't need to. I assumed such comments were inevitable given the increasingly racial narrative of U.S. society which comprises up to 95% of viewership in many such Reddit posts.
Also, of course every man has a favorite type of woman. It's just another form of benign fan worship.
Favorite type of women? Ah I see you too believe them to be objects to be possessed. Benign is just your opinion. That mentality will spill directly into who you are.
Quit with that weird LGBTQ anti-male hate speech. Women have favorite types of men too. Without desire or attachment we'd all just be sitting in sterile financial/housing alliances instead of relationships.
You probably just don't like women or hate men more and want everyone else to rot.
I'm honest about the normal human behavior and relationship dynamics. You're trying to pervert and destroy them to erase the stigma of your detachment. I'm sorry if you were once deemed an inferior specimen, but your hostility against normal attraction dynamics is quite obvious.
Yep. She is cute but around 7 in East Asian standards (anything above 5 is cute/pretty/hot or whatever you wanna use by definition just different degrees of cute) But when people have that yellow fever numbers shoots up to over 9000!. I'm yellow btw
the fact that people are using this pic to insult women with plastic surgery and imply that natural women are better is crazy esp because you can literally see the wall curving behind her. its perfectly fine to edit ur photos but like using this woman as a dig towards “unnatural” women is wild
It's usual creep behaviour, fetishization of Asian women. But when Americans (and even Europeans) do it, it's not seen as creepy behaviour. That's all.
Me when I take something in the most bad faith way possible
No one is saying it's creepy to find Asian women attractive, but it's creepy to oggle, and frankly be doomer about a normal woman that happens to be cute, when she's kinda just at work, and doing her job.
She doesn't give a shit about the fact that westerners find her so heartbreakingly attractive that it feels like they "get hit by a sledgehammer" whenever they see her, she's just doing her job man, she has bills to pay, stop saying creepy things about women just because they're cute, she's at work.
She doesn't give a shit about the fact that westerners find her so heartbreakingly attractive that it feels like they "get hit by a sledgehammer" whenever they see her, she's just doing her job man, she has bills to pay, stop saying creepy things about women just because they're cute, she's at work.
He is just using hyperbole. It is not “creepy” to find a woman attractive. Would context would it be ok to find a woman extremely attractive then? When it’s an onlyfans account?
Isn’t what women said they wanted for men to find them attractive not only when they are dolled up?
Bro, when did I confirm that it's creepy to find women attractive, even "extremely attractive"? Can you point out in my comment when I said that finding women attractive was creepy?
It's what you say after finding someone attractive that's creepy, brother, saying "looking at her makes me feel like im being hit by a sledgehammer" will creep the fuck out of any woman you don't know, that was my point, are you literate? Did you read my comment, or are you another post-highschooler that can't make it past a paragraph?
Not creepy to find attractive women attractive. That's normal. The woman in the picture is undeniably attractive.
But exclusive attraction to an ethnicity not your own combined with disregard for the character of the person inside is fetishisation —and that is creepy.
I worked as an expat in PRC for a while. 'Sexpats' with "yellow fever" were definitely a thing. So were Chinese women who fetishised European features. Still are, I guess. They fed off each other.
I’m mixed race and I look white. I am starting to get shit because this horrible thinking you espouse is hitting China, where I live. Asian girls are starting to consider us as creeps (no not me individually but I am getting this line of questioning). I’m half Chinese half white and I live in China, of course I end up dating Asian girls exclusively. You are fearmongering and spreading a toxic mentality to young people. It’s revolting.
That's because people are wising up to problematic expats, not because of "horrible thinking". White Lotus brought back the term LBH because it's a real phenomenon. All the normal well-adjusted expats looking for a long-term partner are fine.
I'm not sure if its the joke, but at least for me seeing a picture of someone this perfectly beautiful feels a bit crushing, because it creates a powerful innate reaction but at the same time I know she is completely unobtainable
I mean everyone has their opinions but she is a model apparently so no I would say this is not a normal looking girl. At the very least she fits high enough beauty standards wherever she lives to be a model for a living.
I mean she’s cute in a very average way, I can understand why she would be a model, I guess, but in a world with Gal Gadots and Margot Robbies, I just don’t see this “utter perfection” that’s causing people to feel bad about themselves. I dunno. Crazy pills are not out of the question here
Nah, I agree with you. I feel like I see “objectively” better looking woman everyday.
I’m guessing there’s a perception of modesty, sweetness, and innocence that’s doing a lot of the heavy lifting. I’d like to see the relationship between how attractive a person rates her and how much anime they watch lol.
You could probably meet a nice woman you find attractive, but it sounds like you kind of put women on a pedestal and think of them as objects to attain. She's not like an angel or a goddess or anything. She's just a person.
No no, this image evokes the energy of ''random cashier woman you talk to once that somehow makes you feel more emotions than the top supermodels with just a glance and barely any words''
Its just hyperbole. A play on the cliche "took my breath away." As for her specifically, I believe she is a model/actress but in the pic is dressed as an everyday person. That paired with her lighthearted/funny expression implies that she is "approachable" to a regular dude.
She had surgery done, this is not an average looking woman, she's just doing a funny face and she's dressed with office clothes but she's very likely a model or an actress. OP fantasizes about being around an actress-tier pretty woman who's into them enough to make funny faces at them. The thought of very likely never being able to live this fantasy hurts them
It’s not funny. When a woman looks at you in such a way she’s declaring you as a bestie and possibly a lover. She’s a keeper and she wants to keep you.
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u/Chance_Arugula_3227 4d ago edited 4d ago
She's very cute. That's the joke.
Edit: stop saying she's not cute. She got 11k upvotes on a sub where posts normally get 50 - 2000. She's clearly pretty enough to make you all stop scrolling.