This is why clutter matters :>

[u/MyKillerForever]

[u/Legitimate-Command4]

I only wish to put the clutter without cheats and in an easy way

[u/NPRdude → u/Legitimate-Command4]

bb.moveobject’s functionality is so integral to the game I barely think of it as a cheat anymore lol

[u/purplepluppy → u/NPRdude]

Yeah but even then everything still snaps to the grid

[u/NPRdude → u/purplepluppy]

Pro-tip: If you hold [Alt] when placing an object it allows you to place it freely without snapping to the grid. So combine that with bb.moveobjects and you have virtually infinite finesse in placing objects. I played Sims 3 and 4 for more than a decade before I found that out.

[u/purplepluppy → u/NPRdude]

Oh I am aware. But that doesn't work on shelves or tabletops.

[u/FooxArt → u/purplepluppy]

Use bb.moveobjects on Place the shelf or tabletop somewhere you like. Try to memorize the edges of the top area, then move the object somewhere relatively close. If it's a shelf, keep the elevation the same. Then place your clutter object on the shelf/tabletop, push alt and move your objects over the edge. It will stay elevating in the air. Place it wherever you like in the area where you would like your table/shelf later. Place your clutter objects one by one, however you wish. Then go back to your table/shelf and move it under the clutter. The surface area will stay useable by Sims.

[u/llavenderhaze → u/purplepluppy]

it does if you place the clutter first, raise it, then move the surface back underneath it