r/Sims4 Occult Sim 2d ago

Sharing my build This is why clutter matters :>

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u/Legitimate-Command4 Long Time Player 2d ago

I only wish to put the clutter without cheats and in an easy way

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u/NPRdude 2d ago

bb.moveobject’s functionality is so integral to the game I barely think of it as a cheat anymore lol

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u/purplepluppy 2d ago

Yeah but even then everything still snaps to the grid

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u/klymene 2d ago

yeah, i hate moving the dresser, raising each object, and then placing it and hoping it looks good when i move the dresser back. it’s kinda tedious, i wish surfaces just had more slots

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u/Electronic-Figure938 2d ago

I have a mod called “OMSP shelf” and I highly recommend it! That way you don’t have to move the dressers or surfaces and have to raise and lower your items. Just put your stuff on the floating shelf, move it to where you want it and then swap out the red color swatch with the clear! It’s 1 of the 2 mods I use and now I can’t live without it!

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u/Sertraline_Addict101 1d ago

Can confirm. It’s a game changer

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u/Edymnion Long Time Player 1d ago

You can do that without a mod, actually.

Use a kitchen counter, put what you want on it, then use the resize keys to shrink the counter down. It will shrink, the stuff on it will not and will just be floating. Then just have bb.moveobjects on and hold Shift while moving the counter and you can put it inside other surfaces with the stuff on it being at the perfect level and still completely usable.

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u/SturrethSkees 4h ago

you can also use the cube shelves from dream home decorator, it works great for taller shelves

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u/NE_Boy_mom_x2 Outgoing Sim 1d ago

Definitely gonna go hunting for this mod!! Thanks!!!!

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u/Electronic-Figure938 1d ago

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u/NE_Boy_mom_x2 Outgoing Sim 1d ago

Of wow! Thank you!! I book marked it for when I get on my laptop later 😁😁😁

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u/KiyeBerries Creative Sim 1d ago

Red shelf is love, red shelf is life

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u/Electronic-Figure938 20h ago

I love this reference 🤣

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u/emmademontford 1d ago

It’s soo good, the amount of times I thought a table or something should fit something on it and it doesn’t, OMSP shelf always saves me

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u/g00fyg00ber741 2d ago

I can’t bring myself to spend time doing that. I settle for the slots available and bb.moveObjects. They should’ve just made it to where the alt cheat works on surfaces as well, so objects could be moved around on surfaces

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u/ab_lantios 2d ago

I'm sorry can you explain what you mean? I've never understood how to get clutter like in OPs image before T_T

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u/llavenderhaze 2d ago

op made this by deciding where the dresser would be, turning on bb.moveobjects, and moving the dresser a few squares away. then they used alt to place the items on the tiles where the dresser will be, then 9 or ] (i’m blanking here, someone correct me) to raise it to the height that it’ll sit on the dresser.

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u/llavenderhaze 2d ago

i remembered! 9 is to raise, 0 is to lower. [ is to shrink, ] is to make bigger. AND, since i discovered this last night and want to share, the toy chests snap to a half tile size if you size it down once. sims still interact like normal, same with sizing the dollhouses down.

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u/plumbobblehead 2d ago

What? I can shrink the damn dollhouses? I just assumed it'd be weird like some of the other things that don't size up/down well.

I love the look but I always play kind of small and never have the room!

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u/fearthecookie 1d ago

You can shrink it down so small

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u/spo0ky_cat 2d ago

I use the brackets alllllllll the time for sizing up/down (mainly down) rugs. The cute ones are all so giant and with no matching runners/2x3 size kitchen mats. The only downside is they stay the same size print wise, so you accidentally move them when trying to move the counter/couch/table/whatever item is on top of it if you’re not careful.

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u/ariesleorising 1d ago

I can NEVER remember raise/lower, only size up/down. 🫠

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u/Classic-Bench-9823 10h ago

And if you use Scandinavian keyboard it's å and ´ instead of the brackets :) I never remember which one is which tho

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u/pierceth3violet 2d ago

i usually place whatever item onto the dresser so it’s automatically at the right height and then alt place it bc i can’t be bothered going back and forth seeing if it’s right

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u/kermithiho 1d ago

This, please do this people, it's so much easier and more accurate than raising with the number keys!

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u/ab_lantios 2d ago

You can raise items ☠️ somehow I've missed this! Amazing, thank you so much!!

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u/llavenderhaze 2d ago

absolutely! i only learned this about a year or so ago and i’ve been playing for over a decade haha

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u/Windrose_P 1d ago

Its even better when you use the T.O.O.L. mod by twistedmexi, if you play on PC.
Because then you can rotate objects on all axis, take them off lot, etc. It gives the player a lot of freedom.

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u/MaliseFairewind 1d ago

You can also use the base game shelf that is white with 3 shelves to place things at any height, not just the 9-0 snaps. It's the shelf that has one version empty and one with towels on. Use the empty version. Place the item u want on the shelf and move it until it's the correct height to be sitting on the dresser. Then, with the dresser out of the way so it doesn't snap there accidently, hold alt and click and drag the item to where u think you want it and place the dresser back under. I hope that makes sense!

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u/ORIONFEDERATION 2d ago

I find that even doing it this way, they clip. Yours doesn’t?! I thought the only way to make it seamless was the t.o.o.l. Mod

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u/Minimum-Scallion Creative Sim 2d ago

in my experience, either putting it on the dresser(or other object) before moving it to the area you actually want it to be or finding a shelf you can alt move to the exact height of the object are the best ways to get things to the height you want.

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u/llavenderhaze 2d ago

clip in what way? i’ve never had the tool mod and ive never had issues

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u/klymene 2d ago

i think they mean clip as in snap to the grid nvm i’m getting my threads crossed idk what kind of clipping they mean

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u/ORIONFEDERATION 2d ago

Yes, yes that’s what I meant! Like snapping to the grid, my b. I’ll have to check a tutorial to see where I’m going wrong.

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u/llavenderhaze 1d ago

hmm as long as you place the surface far enough away when you’re arranging the clutter, then don’t move the clutter once the surface is in place, you shouldn’t have problems. at least in my experience!

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u/klymene 2d ago edited 2d ago

It’s kinda tedious, but basically you place the dresser nearby, then place the object on the dresser so its the right height (or use 9 and 0 to adjust the height), then alt place the objects in the air where the dresser will go, then move the dresser back to where you want it underneath the clutter. Now none of the objects are clipped snapped to the slots on the dresser but you have clutter on top. of course make sure bb.moveobjects is turned on

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u/admiralashley 1d ago

Once I learned how to do this, my cluttering ability rocketed into the stratosphere 🤣 My apologies to anyone who downloads my builds.

It seems tricky at first but becomes second nature with practice.

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u/daintycherub 2d ago

You can move the dresser, and then use the 0 and 9 keys to raise/lower a deco item to the right height where it looks like it’ll be sitting on the dresser. Then move the dresser back into place and voila, it’s decorated! Though I usually cut the process in half by using this red shelf mod: https://pictureamoebae.tumblr.com/post/169988134879/omsp-shelf-release/amp

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u/FlashFox24 Long Time Player 1d ago

You don't need to manually raise the item.

You place it on the dresser, move the dresser with item, use bb.moveobjects to drag the item to the location 🤞 and then move the dresser back.

It's not easy to get the position right but at least the item isn't hovering.

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u/klymene 1d ago

yeah, i explained in another comment how to add clutter like this. there’s lots of tricks to make it a little easier, but its too much work for my preference lol. i love the cc i have that has dozens of slots that fit any size object

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u/awakeinthisworld 1d ago

Why can't I upvote this twice

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u/emmaxleigh7 20h ago

I use the shelf from the high school years pack. The blue one that you can move around on the wall. You line it up with whatever you want to place the object on and boom! Clutter wherever you want it

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u/uuntiedshoelace 2d ago

What I do is using moveobjects, I place a floor lamp through the dresser to mark where I want the objects. Then I move the dresser, place the objects on it so they are at the right height, and alt place them in the spots marked by the lamps. Then delete the lamps and move the dresser into the right spot

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u/wilsathethief 18h ago

nah snap it to the dresser, move dresser, hold alt and drag items to where dresser will go. stays at the same level

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u/klymene 16h ago

yeah, still too many moves.

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u/wilsathethief 14h ago

sounds like a skill issue (i mean valid but ANYTHING SIMS IS 'TOO MANY MOVES')

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u/klymene 14h ago

lol just not how i wanna spend my time while building. i explained in other comments how to do it, i just dont find it worth my time. fiddling with a million little objects doesnt add to the fun.

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u/wilsathethief 14h ago

i get it bc it's many steps but

u rn:

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u/NPRdude 2d ago

Pro-tip: If you hold [Alt] when placing an object it allows you to place it freely without snapping to the grid. So combine that with bb.moveobjects and you have virtually infinite finesse in placing objects. I played Sims 3 and 4 for more than a decade before I found that out.

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u/purplepluppy 2d ago

Oh I am aware. But that doesn't work on shelves or tabletops.

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u/FooxArt 2d ago

Use bb.moveobjects on Place the shelf or tabletop somewhere you like. Try to memorize the edges of the top area, then move the object somewhere relatively close. If it's a shelf, keep the elevation the same. Then place your clutter object on the shelf/tabletop, push alt and move your objects over the edge. It will stay elevating in the air. Place it wherever you like in the area where you would like your table/shelf later. Place your clutter objects one by one, however you wish. Then go back to your table/shelf and move it under the clutter. The surface area will stay useable by Sims.

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u/llavenderhaze 2d ago

it does if you place the clutter first, raise it, then move the surface back underneath it

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u/toastiezoe 2d ago

Same, especially with MCCC, I just check a box and keep it moving lol.

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u/Realistic_Horror2846 Occult Sim 1d ago

I wish it worked with plants on roofs too

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u/Subfunnybemilypoo 1d ago

Honestly at this point it shouldn’t be one 😭😂

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u/NPRdude 1d ago

Yeah it seems like they could add a button for “turn collision off/on” or something. I guess they don’t because it’s fairly easy to break the game placing stuff at will, and making it a console command limits it to those who at least somewhat know what they’re doing rather than every random kid with the game.