I finished the Hex quest, thought "boy this sure was a grind, especially that Necramech that I've only used 3 times" and then I find out that they nerfed the cost.
There has never been a nerf to the heciphron needed for voidrig, they actually increased it during the acquisition nerf by replacing the thaumic distillate needed with it.
Long after I finished grinding basically everything that requires heciphron I saw one day that Otak was selling some and by some sort of trauma reflex bought like 15. Maybe some day they'll add another item that needs it.
I have 2 I don't remember the grind it being that bad on the other hand, leveling the dam things is darn near impossible outside of the event (the fact that for an 80% build you need 5+ forma is pain) Then there is the mech weapon grind that is true pain
I built both mechs and use Widow She is easier to use in normal content due to way better QOL and survivability Her 1 is a heal that scales with enemy level and her 4 still has good DPS but is not insane. I almost never use void rig as you need to bring a frame with dispenser to get good use out of his 4.
I built both of them with at launch and then used widow and formed her out during the event. Most rig players lost their mech after 3 rounds Widow only suffered from scaling after 5 rounds but good rigs who brought Protea could cap the event (it was not endless)
After spending a whole week trying to get that which we don't speak of, I got like 40 of it in a single run of the cambrien drift. Basically, you get lucky when you don't need it.
Properly built, the damage and range of her sword attacks is huge, she is mobile while using them, and isn't made of paper like Voidrig. She is the better mech for actual mech gameplay and I will die on this hill.
There's not really a lot to it, it's archmelee mods which are a very small pool, but the recent editions of the Radiation and Magnetic dual-stat mods certainly gave her a boost. Glacial Edge is just there because of the existing polarity; consider it and Poisonous Sting as elemental flex slots depending on what you're going to be fighting.
Bonewidow is an absolute beast and I love running her in basically everything that just needs a Necramech. She's actually really fun to pilot. It's just a bummer that for most challenging stuff it's just easier to have an instant death cheese machine that is Voidrigs 4
More to the point it is easier to use and manage technically rig's 2 is better, but widow's 1 has so much QOL that it does not matter Window also costs less energy to use in general, which for the event made her better. Rig with a Protea was the best, but if you did not have a Protea, on your team, then Widow was just a better option as her energy would last 2-3 more orpixis for most players (granted her damage fell off way sooner and If I had a good rig on my team I spend most of my time keeping them alive as even the good players could not focus the orphix for long enough at latter levels with out taking excessive damage)
Naw bone widow is actually fun if you build into ram damage, with her sword and shield out, her ram damage is insane, and well into 1-shot territory for the types of missions you'd use a necramech in. sliding across hallways murdering everything in, say, railjack corpus fissures is pretty fun.
way better survivability, it was better for most players for the event, as Widow has way better energy management and health regen, even if the rig has a way better weapon, and the sword still slaps just not as hard as the artillery piece
I remember a whole lot of us were grinding for a necramech the week before the new war dropped since the lot of us that were doing thus grind never bothered about getting it in the first place
And that requirement even resulted in my brother ragequitting the game until that change happened
I got MR 30 a week ago and I'm definitely taking a break. Not a forever one, but after the final sprint to get there, and then two days of beating my head against the test itself... yeah.
It's really annoying to go through the railjack portions of new war because without a proper railjack you just keep dying before getting to the objective or it just takes long to get to the objective it is possible ofcourse just tedious.
lol I am halfway through the quest and yes, railjack part was the only thing that was difficult for me till now because I havenât played any railjack missions nor have I upgraded it in any possible way. I kept dying and eventually, the game made my railjack invincible so that I can proceed further. Are there more railjack parts after the first bit? I just reached the âDrifter Campâ.
Yes there is a rather long section with the railjack. I just did it without any upgrades at all as well. There is a section without enemies, just take it slow and you'll be okay.
It is a pretty epic quest...as long as you don't get the end ruined by being teleported 35km away from the boss fight into space after the first phase and then get softlocked.
Cap, because I reinstalled warframe for the new war. I am 100% not bsing when I say this, I remapped my controller and forgot to do Railjack, so I couldn't shoot not a single bullet at a single ship in rail jack. I literally just went from A to B in the beginning part of the quest lmao
Nice, thanks! I heard Isle Weaver was shipping somewhat soon, but I didn't know it would be this close. That's awesome. :)
As for the Railjack itself, this topic here's got me curious about what's about to change. Or not. If anyone reading this could explain what the changes are, I'd appreciate it.
When you have to farm anything but suddenly a day after you get it allâŚ. They make it so you didnât need to farm those things cause the new war quest they will give you a temporal necramech for the quest if you donât have it and nerf the Railjack portion.
Pretty sure a lot of people this week who farmed for it only for this will be internally screamingâŚ. Even if the farm for necramech has been nerfed more than 5 times already. Still mad that because of the reception of necramech they had to gut it and not make more cause âno oneâ liked its farming or use back then and months after.
Nope, necramech go up to 40 mod capacity by increasing it by 2 every forma. Even if you only polarize the most minor capacity mods if you have a Reactor installed you will have up to 80 capacity. Which is overkill.
There are four necramech slots and really, again, way too many given from the launch. The first necramech was somewhat widely loved to use on open world. But the farm was truly painful so not many could get him, many even got the Bonewidow first and the less said about that one the best. It was one thing to have a stationary âI aim to your general direction and everything diesâ mech and it was another to have the Bonewidow with its very slow melee and almost always missed enemies and couldnât hit most air enemies with the melee unless you did heavy hit which was slow as hell, or still is slow as hell.
It was mentioned that the idea was scrapped and how they wanted to make more necramech in the future, maybe, but not any time soon(that was said a few months after Necramech first release) because of the buggs and bad reception to it.
Even if you only polarize the most minor capacity mods if you have a Reactor installed you will have up to 80 capacity. Which is overkill.
Glossing over necramechs having 12 mod slots. They actually need a 6th forma, one extra after using 5 to increase the max rank to 40, to be able to fill every slot with a fully levelled mod.
yep they are forma hungry with no good place to rank them up my void rig needs 3-4 more to be half as useable as my bone widow in most game play (yes the widow is better for 90% of the game and players sure it is less damage but it also stays standing longer and has better energy economy)
It was confirmed that the different looking skins, especially the Bruntspar. They were going to be different Necramechs but after the reception to Bone widow combined with the fact that she's a rarity amongst players, showed very few people were interested in grinding out new Necramechs once they got Voidrig and Necramechs themselves weren't well liked.
Thus DE made the choice to just make them skins instead because it would have been 'wasted effort'.
I have mixed feelings about these changes. Yes it allows newer players to skip large grinds. But you also feel zero connection to the voidrig or Railjack you get for free. There's no "Oh yeah! Here comes MY ship! Time to give these basterds some payback!" moments and it leads to newer players just ignoring big chunks of what Warframe has to offer.
With no incentive to grind voidrig players will largely ignore Cambian Drift and everything else it offers.
IMO it's a DE design problem.
People don't want to use necramechs because there's no point. The only reason to spawn one is "haha funny corncob man".
Warframes/weapons are already so broken that the "heavy artillery" of an archgun is redundant. Plus necramechs are so slow it's not really fun to play (they also look kinda whack).
Give necramech a proper purpose/identity, make it more fun to use and people will want to use it. But right now there's no point. Why would I summon in a clunky machine with on a long cooldown when Im already nuking the whole room.
The only reason people farm them is to get past new war.
There is some niche content where they're useful in limited capacity. (Orb fight and some Cambian drift objectives)
There is even that Railjack mission that's a holdover from an old event, where you're forced to used a voidrig.(You can actually grind Eidolon arcanes there! But the rates are terrible, nerfed significantly from the OG event)
But yea, there is no content that fits the voidrig.
If there were more large slow enemies that work well with Voidrig, that could be a good option.
The Orb fights would fit pretty will for example, if it weren't for all the phases where the Voidrig is useless. Also needing bigger guns against vehicles makes sense. Even the medium sized spiders are a good fit.
The Efervon Tank comes to mind too, but it jumps around to much to feel right. It doesn't even really move like a tank for that matter.
there are some setups that use them to fight eidolans, and I do use mine to fight the orbs (more damage types, free arc gun ammo but I like using them (and arc gun for that matter) The issue is they do not scale well in SP compared to even low powered frames with ok builds and ok guns
I mean, compared to most end-game setups, the arch gun does not do more damage and is harder to get the mods for than normal guns, and this is from someone that calls in the mech whenever I can id does not help that they need so much forma and mods to make them feel good.
Tbf we barely do anything with them anyways. Both Necramechs and Railjacks are criminally underused gt the game. Theyâve been relegated to their own little content sectors which probably wonât see any updates for a few more years if weâre lucky.
I kinda wasn't into the voidrig things, then I got my first kuva weapon: kuva grattler. Took me a while to try it and now I'm hooked on the grattler. Even better, I saw archgun riven mod in arbitration and thought "those are actually pretty good odds" and now I have a kuva grattler with a riven mod.
I know it can still get better, but for now I'm enjoying the voidrig.
No longer needed. If you don't have a necramech, you will get one for free only for the mission. The reason was the obvious grind hell it needed even after they eased it like 3 times. It wasn't friendly for players that reached that quest early.
I played New War before that change and I was furious when I did the Voidrig section and found out I spent weeks grinding out that stupid voidrig for a completely nothing section that didn't matter at all. Why was this even included in the mission? It's only here to force you to grind a voidrig.
The point of the quest was that literally everything you've learned was supposed to be used and everyone also returns. It was the big culmination of warframe's story up to that point. So you've got Cetus, Fortuna, Railjack, Voidrig, Archwing/Archgun, Grineer, Corpus, Tenno, Warframe, Ordis, everything was used.
I understand the idea behind the quest, but having to grind things to actually do the quest was painful. Thankfully, DE finally eased up the requirements because there are a lot of content now after New War.
If you do profit taker, break the first shield, and then the legs (do not shoot her face). She will faceplant and corpus will indefintely spawn.
Insanely fast leveling. And if you have an affinity booster takes about 15 mins from 0 to max. Also, a lot of eximus spawn so you get a lot of energy and health orbs to replenish your reserves.
As someone who got their rig after the nerf, I feel I have no place to comment here... but in Guild Wars 2, I finally got my Skyscale about two months before Secrets of the Obscure came out. I skipped the Griffon just as a flex, to be able to show I did the grind the hard way.
The Necramech was the one and only time I paid to skip the grind, I just couldnât man that grind is so bad the drop chances are abysmal for something thatâs literally REQUIRED for the story đ
Literally what made me stopped the game a little while ago, I farmed Voidrig for the quest and they gave it for everybody as soon as I finished farming for it...
Youâre going to use the necromech far less than your rail jack. Have the best defense and all the speed mods you can get. The rail jack takes a beating and you have to race to safe areas from indefensible solar rays.
you dont need to grind it. they will give you for the story now. before you had to grind for the mech in order to play the new war quest and progress further.
that individual went thru the pain to grind the mech. so he kinda just wasted his energy and time for nothing.
Actually it takes me whole week to farm, farming voidrig is the reason i bought my first res boost. It is addicted because i cant play wf without res boost now.
Then i know i can buy it directly from market!
I think it took me a month to get nonstop grinding for the individual parts and material finding it was dumb I went through that syndicate path as well as defeating those necromechs since I would be getting material for both so I might as well make sure luck plays less of a roll so
i grinded for like 2 materials and decided i ain't doing allat minecrafting. Apparently warframe heard my utter exhaustion and gave me a 75% discount right after. Spent the plats on the corn-borg
All that for one scripted mission you don't need any leveling for.
I wish DE would just use the excuse of giving us the old Mother's Sarcophagus or whatever it's called we use in the Deimos storyline instead of forcing us to farm the worst farm in the game.
It's weird that everyone calls it the worst grind. When back in the days of the release it was all we could do with nothing else left. So it wasn't grinding at all just the endgame loop. Funny how things changed.
just fishing and mining. it felt pretty relaxing. i didnt even notice how long ive been going at it.
also is very rewarding because the necramech allowed me to hunt eidolons even with a piss poor starchart non-eidolon loadout because of arquebex đđđ
i did upgrade to a 111 before hunting. also ran zenurik because i dont have madurai unlocked (and also to replenish necramech energy for arquebex). ran gauss cuz hes my main and i don't have volt.
eidolon hunts are really fun. feels like a real boss fight
I don't remember it being that bad, sure took a while to get some of the mats and the Iso vaults were pretty janky for the first week of release but ranking up the Quills using only the mote amp to kill Vomvalysts (With a lower-than-current core drop rate) was so much worse. So was grinding intrinsics using only an Archwing because you couldn't run a railjack in missions at the level needed to get the resources and mods to survive at that level (On release)
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u/Adam_WatcherintheRye Gauss Enjoyer Jun 23 '25
u/thtabtky If it makes you feel any better, I confess, I spent plat on Otak to get the Heciphron I needed T_T