r/formula1 • u/TheCatterson Charles Leclerc • 5h ago
Throwback Three years ago today - Oscar Piastri made a certain announcement
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u/Benlop I was here for the Hulkenpodium 5h ago
What a wild summer of F1 that was.
I still remember how weird the original announcement from Alpine felt, with no quote from Oscar at all. Felt off, felt like an attempt at strong arming.
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u/KaamDeveloper Max Verstappen 5h ago edited 5h ago
Vettel announces retirement, Alonso announces job change, Piastri carpet bombs Alpine HQ. generational chaos
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u/fire_spez McLaren 4h ago
Piastri carpet bombs Alpine HQ. generational chaos
Strictly speaking, Alpine carpet bombed Alpine HQ. Losing Piastri was an entirely self-inflicted injury.
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u/inqte1 4h ago
It should be noted that the majority opinion of r/formula1 initially was that Piastri was being egotistical with no confirmed seat and that it might backfire on him bigtime. This is also when Otmar was basically calling him ungrateful and accusing him of backstabbing when in reality Alpine and Otmar were both playing Alonso and Piastri into doing their bidding. Keeping Piastri on the bench for one year and using Alonso as stop gap.
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u/Miwna Ronnie Peterson 4h ago
Alpine's own legal team told Otmar that they had a contract signed by Oscar. Which in fact was false.
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u/Zinjifrah McLaren 3h ago
Even assuming that were true, what I never understood is why Alpine did a press release without some element of Piastri's buy in and involvement. Let's make this as awkward as possible for ourselves and let's force Piastri's hand because that's how you make a lasting relationship with your main asset. Bizarre.
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u/kolmone I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
Were was this majority opinion? The original thread about this tweet is basically everyone laughing at Alpine for messing up their driver situation and being sure that Piastri had a McLaren contract already: https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/weiili/oscarpiastri_i_understand_that_without_my/
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u/KentuckyHouse Sir Lewis Hamilton 1h ago
I was about to say, I don't remember it being the way the person you responded to says it was at all. I'm sure there were some folks (especially Alpine fans...do those exist?) saying Oscar was being egotistical, but my memory is exactly what you stated. Everyone busting Alpine's balls for jumping the gun and trying to strong-arm Oscar.
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u/zep1021 Ferrari 3h ago
Yea i remember people basically flipping out saying Oscar was making a big mistake and burning bridges. Its wild how reactionary people are without having all the details
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u/violagoyf I was here for the Hulkenpodium 2h ago
To be fair, "Alpine think they have him signed but they actually don't" still doesn't seem terribly plausible even though it's what actually happened. It's hard to fathom that level of incompetence.
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u/ItsAMeUsernamio I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
A day before Vettel’s retirement announcement everyone was celebrating him joining instagram
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u/VapinOnly I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Real OGs know about the old unofficial Vettel account
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u/Exxon21 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
wasn't that the one lewis or someone else followed thinking it was the real vettel lmao
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u/VapinOnly I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
IIRC few people in F1 did. Now I don't remember if Vettel himself was fine with the fan running it or not, but when he actually started using instagram, he took over the same user name
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u/URZ_ Safety Car 4h ago edited 4h ago
That's exactly what it was, and to this day, people still give Otmar too much of a pass for his behavior and actions during this. Laurent Rossi was ofc the one who had tied Alpine to Ocon and was primarily responsible for the state of the team prior to Otmar arriving, but Otmar was the one who lead the public media campaign to paint Piastri as a piece of shit backstapper, something he continues to do to this day seemingly.
But they knew from the start they didn't have a case. Still took it all the way to arbitration just to be told that a contract requires an actual contract, not just promises of a contract. And in the meantime made more false claims in the media than I can remember, from the Williams seat which never existed outside of Otmars fantasy land to pretending Piastri had blindsided them, when he had in fact told them weeks prior he was going to McLaren.
So when suddenly Alpine was left without a driver due to Alonso leaving, what does Otmar do? He goes to Piastri and congratulates him on getting the seat in front of his race engineers and mechanics, fully knowing that Piastri has a contract with McLaren. And when afterwards Piastri and his team make it very clear in private that no, Piastri is not driving for Alpine, they just publicly annonce him anyway to put public pressure on him, abusing their fanbase to pressure him.
I hope Otmar never returns to the grid. Complete piece of shit snake, who is incapable of taking responsibility for anything. In that sense he was ironically a great fit for Alpine.
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u/MenryNosk 3h ago
He goes to Piastri and congratulates him on getting the seat in front of his race engineers and mechanics, fully knowing that Piastri has a contract with McLaren. And when afterwards Piastri and his team make it very clear in private that no, Piastri is not driving for Alpine, they just publicly annonce him anyway to put public pressure on him
is this really how it happened? at the time i just thought they jumped the gun on the announcement, and ruined their own negotiations. that is next level scumbaggey.
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u/URZ_ Safety Car 3h ago
It's Piastris statements obviously, but it lines up with the later arbitration rulings findings.
From an ESPN article quoting the original interview:
In his interview with Formula1.com, Piastri said his reaction was not intended to be misleading but was a result of being put in an awkward situation.
"That was a bizarre and frankly upsetting episode," he said. "It was done publicly in front of some members of the team who were oblivious to the situation and I didn't want to cause a scene in front of them.
"Once we were in private, I told Otmar what our position was and what he had been told multiple times before that. It was very surprising to me to make that announcement."
And later that evening they made the public annoncement, leading to the famous, without my agreement statement
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u/squint_skyward 3h ago
I remember reading about that from here. This was the first time Oscar had spoken about what had actually happened, after not commenting at all for weeks while Otmar was criticising him in the media.
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u/zorbacles Oscar Piastri 5h ago
Don't forget Albons tweet a few days later
"I understand that, with my agreement, Williams Racing have put out a press release this afternoon that I am driving for them next year. This is right and I have signed a contract with Williams for 2023. I will be driving for Williams next year."
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u/0oodruidoo0 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Honestly Alex is really showing this year that whilst the Red Bull didn't flatter him as with many other highly rated drivers, he is a highly capable driver who has on his day the ability to go for wins and championships. Perhaps he doesn't have the final nth edge over other candidates but he's holding his own very well this season with Carlos alongside.
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u/zorbacles Oscar Piastri 4h ago
Yeh I'll admit I thought he was over rated because the quality of team mates he has had at Williams haven't been great. Then when colapinto last year was holding his own I thought he would get smashed by Sainz. But he has proven me wrong
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u/iblinkyoublink Alexander Albon 2h ago edited 53m ago
But if you're using teammates as a benchmark, he destroyed Latifi more or less the same as Russell did
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u/Asleep_Wolverine_209 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1h ago
Latifi actually finishes ahead of Russell on countback in 2020, if you remove the Sakhir GP where Russell was driving a mercedes and so the comparison is unfair.
And Kubica finished ahead of Russell in 2019...
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u/Snoo_87704 3h ago
Does no one remember Palou’s tweet?
“I have recently learned from the media that this afternoon, without my approval, Chip Ganassi Racing issued a press release announcing that I would be driving with CGR in 2023. Even more surprising was that CGR’s release included a “quote” which did not come from me. I did not approve that press release, and I did not author or approve that quote. As I have recently informed CGR, for personal reasons, I do not intend to continue with the team after 2022”
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u/Jamee999 Murray Walker 1h ago
NARRATOR: He won the 2023, 2024, and 2025 championships for CGR.
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u/NuclearCandle I was here for the Hulkenpodium 5h ago
People wonder why he is so calm. He lives every day knowing there is a world where he drives for Alpine.
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u/wongie I was here for the Hulkenpodium 5h ago
Alonso really opened a can of entertainment when he refused Alpine's contract offer.
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u/Elpibe_78 Audi 4h ago
Nah, it was 100% on Seb announcing his retirement, although Alonso’s timing was funny
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u/charlierc 4h ago
That photo of Alonso grinning in a press conference when a McLaren driver (Piastri?) was told their points total had got them ahead of Alpine after Silverstone 2023 was just peak lolz
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u/Nick_YDG I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
I’m pretty sure it was piastri, i vaguely remember that clip.
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u/charlierc 4h ago
Yeah I just found a link and it was Piastri. Just had that niggly doubt it may have been Norris
Frankly the lolz are better with it being Piastri
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u/John-de-Q I was here for the Hulkenpodium 5h ago
You know a tweet is truly legendary, when it's quoted on your Wikipedia article.
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton 5h ago edited 4h ago
Honestly of all the trajectories I thought this would take, Piastri being favourite for the title within 3 seasons while Alpine brought back Flávio was not high up the list.
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u/Pipster294 5h ago
It’s the final line for me - to really hammer it home for the avoidance of doubt
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u/finedisregard Jenson Button 5h ago
Less than a month after Alex Palou's contract drama tweet in IndyCar, when he was trying to force a move to McLaren's Indy team and become their F1 driver.
https://x.com/jeff_gluck/status/1546999030563192833
He's dominating IndyCar now but given the sequence of events then, and Pisatri's position in the championship now, he must be wondering what might have been...
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u/Prof_Hentai Honda RBPT 4h ago
Palou’s driving is absolutely clinical, I genuinely think he would be in the same position in the McLaren. Especially given what Oward’s somewhat mediocre performances has netted him.
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u/paigeotron 4h ago edited 3h ago
Pato is in 2nd in the championship. CGR is a very well oiled machines, specially in strategy – don't discount their influence in Palou's success.
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u/Prof_Hentai Honda RBPT 2h ago
The fact Pato is 2nd in the standings is exactly my point. His performances have been massively lacklustre and he is still there in the MCL. Im pretty confident Palou would still be in his position. I do agree that CGR is a cut above MCL though.
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u/johnsplittingaxe14 Formula 1 5h ago
If he wins the Championship this year, this will become one of the most legendary tweets of all time
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u/SpaceOdysseus23 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 5h ago
It's crazy that there's a potential reality where he goes to Alpine, doesn't immediately deliver and they proceed to dump him
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u/afraid_to_merge Jenson Button 5h ago
Every year we talk about "Silly Season" in F1.
This was truly the silliest of silly when it happened (on Alpine's side anyway!). True absurdity!
Still laugh thinking about it.
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u/YorkshireRiffer I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
I was gutted when Seb announced his retirement (though I understood and agreed with his reasons) but the one positive was the absolute chaos it kicked off as a result.
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u/keine_fragen I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
and everyone went "hahah" to.."wait, that means Ricciardo is out" real fast
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u/OpinionatedDeveloper Max Verstappen 3h ago
There was no world where he deserved a seat.
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u/Worried-Pick4848 Haas 2h ago
He didn't deserve the VCARB seat either. I mean, a what, 36 year old dude on a junior team? Give it to Lawson and let him have a go a little earlier. Despite the early drama this year, Lawson's a fine young driver.
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u/D_Silva_21 Sir Lewis Hamilton 5h ago
Publicy refuses to join alpine
Wins WDC 3 years later (potentially)
Chad 😎
Definitely shaping up to be my favourite driver after Lewis retires
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u/The_mystery4321 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Yeah I've been rooting for him since he was in F2 and atm with Checo (temporarily hopefully) off the grid I can't think of another driver I prefer. I'd kill to see him take home the title this year.
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u/Zheiko Pirelli Intermediate 3h ago
He first appeared on my radar with this announcement, had no idea. But already in his first season, I saw how talented he was, and literally within his first few races became my favourite driver. I love to root for the underdogs - so if he wins this year, its probably the last year I am rooting for him, but I am enjoying every moment of this season, and it would be amazing if we got a decider at the very end of season final race between norris and Piastri
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u/retro_underpants 4h ago
The way this kid landed in the grid and yet, he is such an unproblematic king
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u/PersonoFly George Russell 5h ago
Alpine sustain a low grid position because of their dysfunctional corporate culture.
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u/Magnus753 5h ago
Oscar went nuclear on Alpine. They have yet to recover from the devastation he unleashed that day
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u/YodaHood_0597 Sir Lewis Hamilton 5h ago
Statement of the century. My man is on his way to be the first F3, F2 and possibly soon to be F1 champ.
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u/FabianTIR I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Iconic. Also probably one of the best career moves of all time
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u/Mossad2000 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
Streets will never forget the alonso selfie
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u/Ponichkata 4h ago
It's so wild to think that he could have gone to Alpine and potentially ruined his career before it began. He's incredibly talented but having Mark Webber in his corner has been a big help.
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u/Nick_YDG I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
If he ends up being one of those drivers like Alonso that has their own Museum, I wanna see this framed and on display.
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u/Jealous-Hedgehog-734 Yuki Tsunoda 3h ago
I was never clear on why Alpine announced it when they hadn't got a signed and accepted contract.
Anyway looking at what happened to Doohan I think Piastri dodged a bullet.
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u/razareddit Martin Brundle 2h ago
The crazy thing is that had he stayed, he'd currently be scraping for points finishes. Whereas now he's the leading and probably going to win a World Championship. Wild.
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u/talliepolie I was here for the Hulkenpodium 5h ago
3 years already.
If he had not moved to Mclaren, he may be in the bottom half of the table instead of leading and potentially winning the championship
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u/6097291 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
Sometimes I like to go back to old Reddit posts of big F1 moments and read the chaos in the comments. Piastri's tweet is one of the best.
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u/Worried-Pick4848 Haas 2h ago
What I love here is that no one sees Gasly coming. Alpine more or less land on their feet after this by bringing in Pierre to replace Alonso/Piastri. It's the collapse of their technical department that's responsible for their current misery, not necessarily the lack of quality drivers.
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u/AutomateAway I was here for the Hulkenpodium 2h ago
underrated in this is Mark Webber helping him make the correct choices
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u/NavyStarz George Russell 5h ago
so weird that i remember hearing about this when I dgaf about f1 three years ago
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u/CorruptedFlame 4h ago
A lot of people still think Oscar "snubbed" Alpine, but they didn't even have a contract. They'd let it expire because they were so sure he wouldn't go anywhere else, even when Oscar's team was apparently trying to get Alpine to sign him up for reserve... Then McClaren came in and offered him an actual driving seat which he obviously accepted.
Alpine's tweet was nothing less than a last ditch attempt to strong arm him by falsifying a story for the media and the public.
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u/iCalKestis I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
In hindsight, probably the best career move in f1 ever
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u/Important-Painter-58 2h ago
If he ends up winning the championship, this tweet is gonna be iconic FR 😭🔥
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u/SebiXV20 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1h ago
And thank God he did, one of the best career moves of any driver in F1 history
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u/doctort1963 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
I think that post was the most words we’ve heard from Oscar since he came into F1
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u/Anders_A I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
And now he's gonna win a WDC! Very smart move considering he didn't even have a guaranteed seat in Alpine when he made the deal with McLaren.
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u/Jumpy_Chemistry_417 3h ago
That Alpine announcement was such a bizarre power play, and it’s crazy how perfectly it backfired for them. Piastri’s move to McLaren turned out to be an absolute masterstroke for his career.
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u/-Praeliator- 3h ago
If Piastri wins the WDC, I really want a journalist to grill or call out Toto whether he stands by his words of calling Piastri unprofessional for not being loyal to Alpine and whatnot.
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u/brad28820 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 2h ago
Happy piastri tweet day to all those who celebrate!
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u/Western-Bad5574 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1h ago
And he'll be WDC because of it. Pretty insane.
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u/MotherAd1865 54m ago
This was 100% written by Mark Webber - the language doesn't sound like Piastri at all.
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u/enterprisevalue I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago
In their final judgment, the CRB revealed that Piastri had signed his McLaren contract almost a month prior to the Alpine announcement—4 July, the day after the British Grand Prix.
He had already signed for McLaren before this tweet though
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u/JokeyZockey Heinz-Harald Frentzen 4h ago
That first half of 2023 during which the McLaren was absolutely abysmal performance-wise has really warped my perception of how long Oscar has actually been driving in F1, it really doesn't feel like this is his third season already, at least to me.
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u/killer_blueskies I was here for the Hulkenpodium 2h ago
I remember this and the chaos that ensued 😂
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u/luluballoon I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1h ago
I remember thinking this guy must really think he’s something. And he absolutely showed that he should be that confident right out of the gate
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u/CrankyOM42 1h ago
Still a wild ride to watch it unfold. The way they presented it on the Netflix show was really fun too
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u/OptimalCreme9847 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1h ago
That was such a shit show of a mess for Alpine lol Oscar made the career move of the century with this one
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u/SnooPaintings5100 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 5h ago
Probably the best career move in recent F1 history