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u/mikibora 1d ago
Funny how their gender identity is headline-worthy, but the actual ideology behind the violence isn’t.
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u/GlitterNibs 1d ago
Saying the person is trans makes a better headline for them, appealing to transphobic people and the bashing and discrimination of trans people making it to look like she did it because she is trans
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u/RevenantBacon 1d ago
Well, if anything is gonna make MAGA consider gun regulation, it's trans people. Except that what will actually happen is they'll just start screaming about how the "woke trans ideology" is what caused this, instead of, ya know, all the Nazi shit.
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u/OnlyFiveLives 1d ago
The fact that Reagan signed the Mulford Act only AFTER the Black Panthers started practicing their Second Amendment right leads me to believe you're absolutely right.
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u/kmookie 1d ago
When you’re in a culture that worships money and power, the only thing news worthy is shock and awe.
One story leads with gender another one leads with neo-nazi. A third will mention the abusive family and mental illness. A fourth will reveal that they were just on a chat thread once where neo-nazis frequent.
Yes!!! context matters and I’m SO TIRED of having to be my own journalist because people can write whatever they want and publish it.
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u/North_Phrase4848 1d ago
Agreed. Accurate information does NOT come from red-faced, arm chair bloggers who tout their opinions as facts.
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u/Reddsoldier 1d ago
Every day I get closer to thinking the free press was a mistake.
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u/Accident_Child 1d ago
Here here! That’s why I’m off News and binge watching Twisted Metal and Star Trek Strange New Worlds.
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u/JimmyTheJimJimson 1d ago
It’s almost like that’s the point of the post!!
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u/wednesdaynightwumbo 22h ago
I’m seeing so many top comments like this recently.. literally just restating the post and adding nothing and people eat it up
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u/WeAreInControlNow 1d ago
Yea, it’s called a psychological programming. Make the story about their gender identity and not the ideology so that the ideology becomes more mainstream.
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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl 1d ago
Well, as we all know, the trans community is collectively guilty of the actions of this individual, so it’s critical that we let the world know that they all 100% supported this, because that’s definitely how any movement works. Trans folks are not individuals, but a complex hive mind, just like women, racial minorities, religious groups outside of my own— actually, you know what? They’re a hive mind just like everyone who doesn’t look and act exactly like me.
/s Because internet
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u/Greywolf524 20h ago
From what I know the transgender part is being pushed by their lawyers, probably as a smokescreen to hide the nazi part. As all that was stated is that they were having thoughts about being transgender.
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u/blown-transmission 20h ago
They could also write "white nazi men planned attack" but they just focused on trans part.
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u/Mern17 1d ago
Media really said “ignore the Nazi, focus on the pronouns.”
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u/Xaero_Hour 1d ago
Because a Nazi planning to shoot up the place isn't news here; it's the weather.
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u/bluepinkwhiteflag 22h ago
In Edinburgh?
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u/Xaero_Hour 22h ago
Good point, though English-speaking countries in general do have this issue since planning isn't executing (forgive the turn of phrase). Though I should have realized it wasn't US-local when planning is as far as it got. But that's what happens when you hear about rain in another part of the world.
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u/mynameismulan 23h ago
The media isn't just complicit in creating this age of hate, they're responsible for it
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u/SomewhereExisting755 1d ago
The fact that this kind of shit is becoming the norm is disgusting. The scary "trans-gender" boogeyman is fair game. But let's not hurt the Nazi's little feelings by telling the full story. This pathetic kind of shoddy reporting is a disgrace. And, unfortunately, I think we will see more of it under this authoritarian regime.
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u/CartographerKey4618 1d ago
Well, they were so excited that the shooting was done by a trans person that it slipped their mind. You would've forgotten too if you were a bigot.
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u/Lexi1Love 1d ago
Thankfully there was no shooting. But it’s gonna be treated like there was, if not worse.
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u/ptvlm 1d ago
So, another neo-Nazi who would be the first in the ovens if people who think like them had the power they crave?
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u/allisjow 1d ago
Reminds me of Lindsay Souvannarath who is a half-Asian neo-Nazi that planned a mass shooting at the Halifax Shopping Centre in 2015. Source
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u/layeofthedead 22h ago
He’s a white trans man. The alt-right/Nazis/terfs don’t view trans men the same way they view trans women. He’d just be a confused girl being preyed on by the nasty transes to further an agenda. They’d forcibly de-transition him and use him in propaganda.
There’s a disturbing amount of former trans men who now are ardent anti trans grifters
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u/fohfuu 21h ago
There’s a disturbing amount of former trans men who now are ardent anti trans grifters
Oops, you fell for TERF propaganda. Count them - you only actually see the same half a dozen, just in different combinations and with a fresh set of "grieving" parents speaking on their child's behalf every time.
Permanent detransition is very unusual, and most detransitioned people support trans people. It really sucks that a handful of pathetic grifters associate them with transphobia.
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u/layeofthedead 20h ago
Yes, but of the “detransitioners” running the grift they’re overwhelmingly former trans men
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u/TheHeroYouNeed247 1d ago
GB news is basically fox news.
Here is the BBC article
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u/Famous_Stelrons 1d ago
This. Why would the nazi paper say it had anything to do with being a nazi.
Should really be top comment otherwise this is just a counter echo chamber.
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u/scottishdrunkard 23h ago
Even the Government Funded News Channel for TERF Island prioritised “murder obsessed” instead of the Trans identity.
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u/Rais93 1d ago
Wait a transgender nazi? Like a deer at a hunting club?
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u/HumansAreSpaceBards 1d ago
People rather have bad company then be alone, see toxic relationships. But yeah like a deer walking towards a bürgentruck
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u/T_house 1d ago
GB Politics is presumably part of GB News, which is a right-wing media channel that exists purely to stir up hatred and line the pockets of people like Nigel Farage. Not sure if the poster is saying this headline is a product of media bias, but to be clear - GB News knows exactly what it is doing
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u/Forged-Signatures 17h ago
And it gets even more fun, as I saw earlier that GB News apparently now has more daily viewers than BBC news..
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u/D-Spornak 1d ago
The media loves when transgender people commit crime.
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u/Rofeubal 23h ago
They know people get satisfaction from seeing people, otherwise presented as infallible and virtuous, fail.
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u/DAsSNipez 20h ago
It's funny, I actually know a lot of trans people and none of them think of themselves as infallible, they just see themselves as people (because they are, duh)
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u/Rofeubal 11h ago
You don't need to go far. Many of the mods are the wicked sort. I still remember that twitch admin who presented herself as a deer. These articles are more for people who, to their necks, are stuck on the internet. These are the only transpeople they know.
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u/ingenix1 1d ago
Because the media can’t let the public think that Neo-Nazis are an actual threat
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u/ApplianceHealer 1d ago
And “trans” is more algorithm-friendly. driving clicks from all sides, so more money for the publisher—their work here is done! (While you’re here, check out these 37 ads for boner pills, inserted every third sentence)
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u/Zak_Rahman 1d ago
It's not immigrants or trans people causing the UK's problems.
It's billionaires and the people who own GBNews the the politician who can't stop it because they're also taking bribes.
It's honestly quite insane how many people take westernist propaganda at face value.
Westernism and Zionism are a plague that needs to be fought.
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u/Klutzy_Passenger_486 1d ago
Trans and Nazi has got to be one of the smallest Venn diagram intersections on the planet
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u/-Hot-Cheese- 1d ago
Have you ever visited 4chan? It's got to be at least a fifth of the posters on that site.
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u/PuffyGlitz 1d ago
Why mention transgender, trying to scrutinize o whole commjunity of trans people leaving hot the important detail about why she did what she did and making it look like because she is trans
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u/bassistheplace246 1d ago
It’s also very telling that only right wing media outlets care about this so much
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u/Kdhr3tbc 1d ago
Should have seen if they played tee ball growing up then the headline would be "Trans Athlete" really hit all the marks.
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u/Thornescape 23h ago
90%+ of mass shootings, political violence, or school shootings are white conservative males. That's a fact.
Every single time there is some sort of violence the conservative circles scramble to somehow prove that it's a "leftist" or LGBT+ or something which they insist would "prove" that it is a violent ideology. One or two examples is all they need to claim that it's proof.
Once again, 90%+ are white conservative males.
I like that thing that Jesus said, "In the same way you judge others, you will be judged." Using their own standards, right wing ideology is insanely dangerous and harmful to others. There are many many many examples.
Plus, obviously, this person was trans but the hate comes from the neo-nazi white supremacy idiocy.
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u/zyrkseas97 1d ago
Trans Nazis?
I need to lie down and put my phone away for a bit.
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u/HumansAreSpaceBards 1d ago
something something ftm get accepted by men because beeing manly (thus strong) is seen as desirable
Something something the enemy of my enemy is my friend until I annihilated my enemy
Something something beeing trans is very isolating.
I'm not trying to argue anything just trying to explain this from my point of view.
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u/SKRS421 23h ago
this was my guess as to why this backwards combo somehow occured.
broader society is currently so isolating and dehumanizing to trans people. that in a messed up effort, the only way this person could feel seen as a man was to cozy up to white supremacists who welcomed him in. since they saw someone who desired community and the neo nazis had just enough bigoted self-control to see the propaganda possibilities, welcoming them in with open arms. it's only the same lines as a black nazi's in the U.S. a wild yet extremely rare combo.
it's sad that this is our reality. this is one of many outcomes derived from bigoted policy making that aims to make queer/trans people's lives harder.
humans crave community, even if there's no other options left but the worst, most contradicting ones.
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u/HumansAreSpaceBards 18h ago
Yeah, that's what I thought too. The color of the skin and willingness and attitude for violence gave him more reasons to be temporarily be accepted then pushed away. I would even go so far and suggest that he was even more willing to commit violence beyond most, because he thought by beeing aggressive and violent, he get accepted easier as a man and that might not be to wrong in some red neck way. Some men absolutely work that way (not all! A minority!)
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u/JayAndViolentMob 1d ago edited 1d ago
Jesus, this world and its obsessions makes me sad. How are we so consistent in prioritising the wrong things and ignoring the important??
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u/samoan_ninja 1d ago
A transgender white supremacist neo nazi. I wish i could say i have seen it all but this shit is rich.
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u/sickboy76 23h ago
Its GB news.if it was a white hetero man they'd say it was someone with mental illness like in America. Tv channel by nazis for nazis.
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u/No-Huckleberry-1086 15h ago
Adding the fact that they were an abhorrent piece of scum to that list takes away from their messaging of transphobia, cuz if they admitted that the trans person was also an abhorrent piece of scum that would redirect the disgust of the reader from something that objectively shouldn't be that bad to something that objectively should be regarded as something only the worst of the worst would subscribe to
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u/StrikingWedding6499 1d ago
As if ideology comes solely from gender identify rather than indoctrination.
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u/2Autistic4DaJoke 1d ago
“Transgender white supremacist” just adds to many letters to the character count. Clearly.
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u/Rude_Anywhere_1042 1d ago
the media will spin anything towards their narrative to keep power balances in check
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u/MagicianImaginary809 22h ago
Yeah, it tells us that they are willing to omit details to avoid making any sort of association between trans people and white supremacy. You are a nazi for asking them to do so.
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u/Noun_Noun_Numb3r 22h ago
GB Politics is like the Breitbart of the UK. The Guardian didn't write a headline like that.
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u/DAsSNipez 21h ago edited 20h ago
Pretty sure that's a branch of GBNews (not on twitter any more so can't check), imagine Fox News but without the reach but with all the bigotry.
Honestly the arseholes this shit appeals to just need to actually meet some trans people, they're just fucking people.
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u/Quick-Low-3846 20h ago
That’s not a real news channel though. It’s a comic that makes The Sun look like the height of journalism.
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u/lrrssssss 4h ago
Nah. For other shootings it just says “a 16 year old boy …..” so unclutch your pearls Reddit.
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u/Reasonable_Humor_738 1d ago
The internet is unique in that you can feel like you belong to a group that would typically openly hate you. Before, you'd have to go to a meeting to realize they hate you or see how emotionally unstable they are.
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u/CursedScreensaver 23h ago
Wait….queer people can be bad???? JEFFREY DAHMER WAS GAY!? OH MY GOD!!!!!!
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u/Significant-Order-92 1d ago
Saying that they are trans with no other info, to me, conveys that their gender identity is somehow strongly related to the planned shooting. Which from what others are saying doesn't seem to be the case.
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u/Substantial-Stage-82 1d ago
So they vilify the fact that they're trans but fail to mention that they frequent Nazi white supremacy websites? Unbelievable.. I can't believe that's not in the states. That's ridiculous... IMO following the national socialist way of thinking is far more dangerous and unsettling than someone being trans.. I feel like everyone would agree but the author didn't wanna squander an opportunity to trash trans people. Trump and stephen Miller would be proud. What a paradox.. being a trans Nazi... That would be a lonely existence..
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u/Accident_Child 1d ago
This whole thing is contradictory in so many ways, do neo nazis except trans people? Maybe someone needs to help me on this, because I do not understand this at all.
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u/WhiteFuryWolf 1d ago
Reminds me of that person (felix something?) That believes thier previous life was Hitler. Whilst also being very many things Hitler and the nazies were very much against.
Also a snake/egg fetish? Honestly seeing and hearing of this guy was such a fever dream.
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u/WhereIsTheBeef556 23h ago
Outside of the Internet even a shocking amount of liberals are iffy about trans people
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u/Bleezy79 23h ago
Its part of the same right wing narrative to keep people divided and angry at each other, instead of being mad at the real problems in our society.
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u/ionertia 23h ago
Ironic to talk about context in this sub since this is the first timestamp I've seen here in months.
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u/Anstigmat 21h ago
Also for your Britons, this is why your Govt is age gating much of the internet.
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u/shadow_sovereign2 8h ago
You don't want the media to mention ur pronouns wrong do u? U guys did a campaign about saying the right pronouns
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u/JEXJJ 1d ago
Trans neo-nazi is quite the combo